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RE: AnCaps ***TRIGGERED*** by Vaccines! - A dialogue on the adverse reaction.
Ok, good answers except in the anarchism part, see I just can't understand how anarcho-capitalism can work. They are just opposites capitalism without a head or leader just won't work. Well I'll be waiting for other posts from you there is always something to learn, and remember I always debate, doesn't mean I am against what you say or that I think you have bad ideas, just when I feel not so comfortable or maybe knowledgeable about something I like to know why another person is for it.
Why do you assume anarchism to be apposed to leadership or hierarchy? By definition it is not, as I showed above. AnCaps/Voluntaryists/Market Anarchists are totally fine with voluntary hierarchies. It is coercion that we view as illegitimate.
And thanks for being open-minded. I am always glad to talk, and hope you understand that I am not "against you" either. I appreciate the commentary!
Capitalism or fascism/corporatism?
If you are talking about capitalism, that is, by definition, voluntary interaction. AnCaps love voluntary interaction. That's the primary goal. We seek to have all interactions between humans to be consensual and voluntary.
AnCaps have businesses, communities, courts, and other organizations. They just have them without special protections, double standards, and the use of unjustified force.
Please Google Voluntaryism. Governance without government is not a fantasy. The difference is the first is voluntary, and the latter is not.
Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. I don't see any voluntary interaction there, what I see is the smartest, greediest and the people with most guts get the biggest piece of the cake, like in the American west, it had no direct government for years these lands weren't even part of the US but they were owned by the powerful ranchers and bankers, apparently the undertakers made a lot of money too.
Voluntaryism: a philosophy which holds that all forms of human association should be voluntary, a term coined in this usage by Auberon Herbert in the 19th century, and gaining renewed use since the late 20th century, especially among libertarians.
Ok, so this is even worse suppose I don't volunteer what happens then? I'm not trying to pick a fight I just want to know what your answer is, do I get kicked out? Do I lose any rights because I don't volunteer?
You have assumed "private owners" is only the "smartest, greediest" people. I am an individual in the market, and I am a private owner. Perhaps you're thinking of corporatism/fascism where the government is controlled by big business? Or are you a collectivist who doesn't believe in any private ownership?
You don't volunteer for what? Did I rob you? Rape you? What have I done that you didn't volunteer for exactly? Please do more than look up definitions of words, or you'll never understand the topic being discussed. If you leave me and my property alone, I'll leave you and yours alone. It's that simple.
No I am assuming that is what will happen, because it is always what happens, why do you think we are in the state we are in? Because greedy people decided they wanted more. Yes, if I leave you alone you leave me alone works, but just as far as someone doesn't decide he deserves more then the others.
Who decides who deserves what?
We are in the situation we are in because there is a system to take over by controllers.
Without government those predators have no system of control.
@finnian, this state were the strongest control most of everything goes as far back as the start of written history, I really admire your stance, I am not kidding, but I know how people are, eventually someone wants more and finds ways to get it, it's not that I don't agree with your idea as much as I don't believe it is feasible in the long run.