No two people can share the same perspective. You can't occupy the same space. This is obvious. You can disagree if you want, but it's facts. It's facts because you are not the first to do this. Plagiarism is a battle that has been fought on steemit from the beginning. It was fought by people with much more SP than you against people with more SP than you. They also accomplished much more than you. Still look! It's still here. Those warriors moved on.
I mean look! You're upvoting yourself to keep it going. You're running a delegation racket to get more SP. Even if you're winning, you're losing.
Supposing you downvote someone for plagiarizing. What consequences do they face? You can have a different perspective all you want, but tell me. What real-life consequences do they face for breaking the law?
Seeing the truth. Knowing the truth. Believing the lies.
Why did you stop spamming with @perpetuator? A loss of income. The primary reason that many people join the platform in the first place. If they stop profiting from plagiarism and spam, then why continue to do it? Why are you continuing to farm when you are no longer profiting from it?
It depends what happens when this time comes - there are plenty of people now fighting plagiarism and spam on Steem. This has continued to increase in the past 3 months. I'm hopeful that this awareness and community spirit will make endingplagiarism and people like me unnecessary.
Why did you stop spamming with @perpetuator? A loss of income.
Assuming I did spam with that account. I didn't lose anything. I was back to where I was before that account. If anything, I made a bunch of money for free and I'll just move on to something else. It's effectively losing their job. What if your consequence for forgery was you lost your forgery job? You'll just go get another like anyone else. No consequences.
If they stop profiting from plagiarism and spam, then why continue to do it? Why are you continuing to farm when you are no longer profiting from it?
I love this argument because you make it with the pretext that you are right, then disprove it. You say that lack of profit == real-world consequence. Then ask why it doesn't work. LOL
It doesn't work. You tell yourself it works because you see a downtrend in activity. Yeah, things that are less profitable will decrease, but they come back.
Let's put it another way. What if police didn't stop crimes? They actually committed them in an effort to remove the profitability from criminals. They though, "If we make crime less profitable for criminals, they'll stop, right?" Police, having the backing of people do this. Instead of catching criminals for selling drugs. They sell the drugs to all the criminal's customers, so they go out of business. They're not impeded because they have the support of the people. They can freely commit crimes and "no one innocent is getting hurt".
Criminals go away, but the crime has not. The police are the criminals now and they're the legal authority. This is what you're doing.
Suppose the police out of the goodness of their hearts decide to stop committing crimes and profiting from it just because. Criminals will come back. Why? Because they were never arrested or faced consequences.
Making crime less profitable is not the same as reforming criminals to be upstanding citizens.
Really? "Assuming". The only reason I'm here is because you didn't like it and exposed all of your accounts to endingplagiarism (I still struggle to understand why you did this).
A nice analogy but one that is fundamentally flawed since the police are not dealing drugs. See me as a patron at a shop. You're the shoplifter. I catch you shoplifting and return the stolen item to the store. The shopkeeper is happy with me and gives me a mars bar for my troubles.
Making crime less profitable makes crime less attractive to criminals
A nice analogy but one that is fundamentally flawed since the police are not dealing drugs. See me as a patron at a shop. You're the shoplifter. I catch you shoplifting and return the stolen item to the store. The shopkeeper is happy with me and gives me a mars bar for my troubles.
It was a hypothetical comparison.
See me as a patron at a shop. You're the shoplifter. I catch you shoplifting and return the stolen item to the store. The shopkeeper is happy with me and gives me a mars bar for my troubles.
Here are the flaws
Patrons are coincidental one time things. The shoplifter can just come by again. You are someone that sticks around loitering with the shopkeeper's permission. Kinda like paid security or mafia thug.
You take what's on the shoplifter, but you're not giving it back to the shopkeeper. You're pocketing it.
Shoplifter never answers legally. Just goes to someone else's shop.
Really? "Assuming". The only reason I'm here is because you didn't like it and exposed all of your accounts to endingplagiarism (I still struggle to understand why you did this).
Well, I wasn't going to do anything. I was honestly going to leave it. Then I saw all the spam and vote farming and thought to myself, "Wait...what?! I was downvoted by this?"
And then the thought process stopped. You saw the red mist and started downvoting, thinking that everybody within that community was the same person and that you were the hero to open everybody's eyes.
Not realising that the entire community is exactly that. A community and endingplagiarism is the voice of that community (of which I am one of many) who listens to its members. Interacts with its members and does the best that it can for its members. Its members primarily being community leaders and long-standing Steemit users including a number of witnesses.
We TRUST endingplagiarism to do the right thing. We watch endingplagiarism. We watch her downvote you. I know I'm not the first to have reached out to you, but I did so with a different approaches. Sadly, I join the general onsensus (as one person put it):
Not realising that the entire community is exactly that. A community and endingplagiarism is the voice of that community (of which I am one of many) who listens to its members. Interacts with its members and does the best that it can for its members. Its members primarily being community leaders and long-standing Steemit users including a number of witnesses
I saw the community. Again, you think this is new stuff. It's all happened before.
And then the thought process stopped. You saw the red mist and started downvoting, thinking that everybody within that community was the same person and that you were the hero to open everybody's eyes.
I am not a hero. I just didn't think it was fair. If I saw myself a hero, I'd start a counter community.
And then the thought process stopped. You saw the red mist and started downvoting, thinking that everybody within that community was the same person and that you were the hero to open everybody's eyes.
I am not a hero. I just didn't think it was fair. If I saw myself a hero, I'd start a counter community.
We TRUST endingplagiarism to do the right thing. We watch endingplagiarism. We watch her downvote you.
Honestly, you sound exactly like @endingplagiarism which is why I think you're the same. You say the same stuff. Use the same insults. Tell yourselves the same lies.
I know I'm not the first to have reached out to you, but I did so with a different approaches. Sadly, I join the general onsensus (as one person put it):
They are exactly the same approach. You tell accuse me of doing exactly that which you are doing. You try to defend it as different. Say we just see things differently. It's not different though. This conversation isn't different. The lies aren't different. The argument hasn't changed.
No two people can share the same perspective. You can't occupy the same space. This is obvious. You can disagree if you want, but it's facts. It's facts because you are not the first to do this. Plagiarism is a battle that has been fought on steemit from the beginning. It was fought by people with much more SP than you against people with more SP than you. They also accomplished much more than you. Still look! It's still here. Those warriors moved on.
I mean look! You're upvoting yourself to keep it going. You're running a delegation racket to get more SP. Even if you're winning, you're losing.
Supposing you downvote someone for plagiarizing. What consequences do they face? You can have a different perspective all you want, but tell me. What real-life consequences do they face for breaking the law?
Seeing the truth. Knowing the truth. Believing the lies.
And when the time is right I will move on too.
Why did you stop spamming with @perpetuator? A loss of income. The primary reason that many people join the platform in the first place. If they stop profiting from plagiarism and spam, then why continue to do it? Why are you continuing to farm when you are no longer profiting from it?
Since there were no consequences, what do you think the plagiarists will do when that happens?
It depends what happens when this time comes - there are plenty of people now fighting plagiarism and spam on Steem. This has continued to increase in the past 3 months. I'm hopeful that this awareness and community spirit will make endingplagiarism and people like me unnecessary.
In 2019, there were way more than there now. There were multiple communities.
https://github.com/steemit/redeemer-irredeemables
We are actually at 2017 levels. We're not anything like what it was like in 2019
Assuming I did spam with that account. I didn't lose anything. I was back to where I was before that account. If anything, I made a bunch of money for free and I'll just move on to something else. It's effectively losing their job. What if your consequence for forgery was you lost your forgery job? You'll just go get another like anyone else. No consequences.
I love this argument because you make it with the pretext that you are right, then disprove it. You say that lack of profit == real-world consequence. Then ask why it doesn't work. LOL
It doesn't work. You tell yourself it works because you see a downtrend in activity. Yeah, things that are less profitable will decrease, but they come back.
Let's put it another way. What if police didn't stop crimes? They actually committed them in an effort to remove the profitability from criminals. They though, "If we make crime less profitable for criminals, they'll stop, right?" Police, having the backing of people do this. Instead of catching criminals for selling drugs. They sell the drugs to all the criminal's customers, so they go out of business. They're not impeded because they have the support of the people. They can freely commit crimes and "no one innocent is getting hurt".
Criminals go away, but the crime has not. The police are the criminals now and they're the legal authority. This is what you're doing.
Suppose the police out of the goodness of their hearts decide to stop committing crimes and profiting from it just because. Criminals will come back. Why? Because they were never arrested or faced consequences.
Making crime less profitable is not the same as reforming criminals to be upstanding citizens.
Really? "Assuming". The only reason I'm here is because you didn't like it and exposed all of your accounts to endingplagiarism (I still struggle to understand why you did this).
A nice analogy but one that is fundamentally flawed since the police are not dealing drugs. See me as a patron at a shop. You're the shoplifter. I catch you shoplifting and return the stolen item to the store. The shopkeeper is happy with me and gives me a mars bar for my troubles.
Making crime less profitable makes crime less attractive to criminals
It was a hypothetical comparison.
Here are the flaws
Well, I wasn't going to do anything. I was honestly going to leave it. Then I saw all the spam and vote farming and thought to myself, "Wait...what?! I was downvoted by this?"
And then the thought process stopped. You saw the red mist and started downvoting, thinking that everybody within that community was the same person and that you were the hero to open everybody's eyes.
Not realising that the entire community is exactly that. A community and endingplagiarism is the voice of that community (of which I am one of many) who listens to its members. Interacts with its members and does the best that it can for its members. Its members primarily being community leaders and long-standing Steemit users including a number of witnesses.
We TRUST endingplagiarism to do the right thing. We watch endingplagiarism. We watch her downvote you. I know I'm not the first to have reached out to you, but I did so with a different approaches. Sadly, I join the general onsensus (as one person put it):
and will now leave you to choose your own path.
Good luck.
I saw the community. Again, you think this is new stuff. It's all happened before.
I am not a hero. I just didn't think it was fair. If I saw myself a hero, I'd start a counter community.
I am not a hero. I just didn't think it was fair. If I saw myself a hero, I'd start a counter community.
Honestly, you sound exactly like @endingplagiarism which is why I think you're the same. You say the same stuff. Use the same insults. Tell yourselves the same lies.
They are exactly the same approach. You tell accuse me of doing exactly that which you are doing. You try to defend it as different. Say we just see things differently. It's not different though. This conversation isn't different. The lies aren't different. The argument hasn't changed.