What Did You Dislike About Steemit?

in #steempress6 years ago (edited)
This weeks topic for @legendchew's Exclusive Blogging Course Giveaway Contest and one that I am once again participating is:

What Did You Dislike About Steemit?

Image Source

Oh boy where do I start cause I definitely have many things that I totally dislike about this platform. Off the top of my head: the insane level of entitlement among many users (old and new alike), how gameable the current system is, how the current number of active accounts are comprised mostly of alts/bots and even how these so-called "quality-enforcers of Steem" are somewhat preying only on "weak" accounts.

There are many more things that I hate about Steem but these three tops of my list:

"7-Day Timeframe"



Image Source

As most of you already know, Steem Platforms only allows a maximum of exactly 7 days for a post or comment to collect votes. All votes casted after the 7-day period will no longer give any monetary rewards or increase in reputation(?).

While I somewhat understand why they have to do this, (if content is paid indefinitely then the reward pool will get thinner and thinner as people will try to game the system by creating another account to vote and transfer their SP to that account, repeatedly). I personally think that it is unfair to people who write informative posts or do tutorials as their contents might not be relevant at the moment of writing but probably will be relevant in the future.

Take my personal article as an example, months ago I wrote about "How to Get an Upvote from the Busy bots (@busy.org & @busy.pay)" and "How to determine "vote weight" given by the busy bots". During that time I was only a small minnow with little visibility and reach (only around 400+ followers), while I did boost that post with bidbots, it seems like it drowned among others hours after.

After some weeks had passed, I've started getting some tag and mentions from people sourcing those two posts. I believe it was quite informative and helped some newbies who still don't know how the Busy bots worked. But seeing as the post have already paid out, their votes if any would be meaningless. Same can be said on my post about Qurator's Qustodian Bot: How does Qurator's exclusive only bot, @Qustodian work? to which unfortunately was only seen a month after. Too late :(



The point I am trying to make here is that after 7-days your article or content will become meaningless money-wise. No matter how well-written or how exceptional the post is, after 7 days it becomes a remnant of the past. All these brings me to the second thing I hate the most about Steem.

"People who preach about Quality like it's the only thing that matters"



Image Source

In conjunction with the 7-day timeframe, I am probably in the minority who thinks that one must not thrive "that much" into creating Exceptional Quality content but should focus only on Decent Quality content, especially if you are new to the platform and don't know anyone nor have invested any money on Steem.

Like I've said above, no matter how much you come prepared before delivering your post, after 7 days it all become meaningless. I've recently had a conversation with @adelair about this as she once said to me that she is quite unsure about creating an original artwork solely for Steem. A talented newbie's artist dilemma in here is getting noticed, and no matter how good you deliver your post is, the payout is not at all guaranteed.

Take @dunsky's experience as an example:




Image Source

An amazing artist could spend days and days to create one exceptional artwork solely for the Steem platform but days after would probably end up getting disappointed after getting such low payout. In @dunsky's experience, he only got $2 for an illustration that might have cost 200-500 times more than the usual rate. These wouldn't be an issue of course if the payout was indefinite right? But as I've said above it will create another issue if that one is to be implemented. (As for @dunsky, he is now the illustrator of eSteem from what I read. Good for you! :) )

"The Rise of the Bots"



Image Source

Out of the ~60k active accounts daily on the Steem Platform, how many do you think are just alt/bots auto-upvoting/commenting/resteeming other people's post?

When I first joined here on Steem by January of this year, the bot problem wasn't that much of an issue. Sure I do see some spam bots once in a while fishing for my mere upvote but it was at most at a tolerable level. And no I am not talking about bidbots here but those bots/alt accounts commenting on other people's post and being upvoted by some accounts with a higher SP to probably hide and justify how they use their stake.

I first noticed this 2months ago (not sure if it is still going on) when I first invited my irl friends over to try the Steem platform. As some of them took the time to read the FAQ on Steemit.com, their first ever post was a self-introduction, a #introduceyourself kind of post.

Now guess what happened? Around 5 bots(?) commented on the said post "welcoming" my friend. Sure this is all nice, who wouldn't love a welcome right? But what pissed me off was that after some hours had passed , their comment was upvoted by their main(?) account or someone with a higher SP without even upvoting the one being welcomed to. If you are new to the platform, what would you feel if the comment of someone on your post pays more than the post being commented on?



Posted from my blog with SteemPress : http://jlordc.vornix.blog/2018/08/06/what-did-you-dislike-about-steemit/
Sort:  

If I participate in this week's topic for legendchew's Exclusive Blogging Course Giveaway Contest, i would be pointing out same things as well.

It is indeed very difficult and time consuming if I were to consider creating a full rendered artwork to be posted ONLY for steem platforms. As what dunsky had said, an artwork is paid 200-500 times of what we usually get here so practically speaking if you joined just to aim to get that amount, you would probably get disappointed.

And additional to that, posting on all social media platforms are our "personal ads" as an artist as we are usually discovered by clients through posting, so we basically put up our works on facebook, twitter, ig, youtube, deviantart, artstation and many more.

But what made my steem blogs different is I got to learn how to write a step by step blog post, and explain how I do the stuff, I just hope my efforts aren't wasted tho hahhahaha, so let me have this chance to thanks my followers and friends. GUYS, I AM TRULY GRATEFUL OF YOUR APPRECIATION!!! Thank you for the support!

But hey, my live stream sketches for my account and your account are very exclusive you know XD

As what people say, every thing is a learning experience. I am fairly sure that you're efforts aren't wasted. Though the payout now may not be that big, I believe that you will surely be a hit in the near future. Your works are just cut above the rest, though I can't draw that well, I can at least attest that they are something of a complete different level.

Btw I am still waiting for that animated show with cats lol

Posted using Partiko Android

hahaha yeah, I'm not a blogger type of person so this experience is really something new. I even worry that maybe my grammar is wrong and they can't understand what i'm trying to say hahahah but this is a great practice, i hope not just my drawing skill will improve but my written english as well XD

Anyway, thanks once again @ascheriit <3 hahaha

I used to worry about my grammar in here too until I realized no one actually reads my posts lol (until you guys came) ha ha so I'm very much thankful to you guys :)

Posted using Partiko Android

But what made my steem blogs different is I got to learn how to write a step by step blog post, and explain how I do the stuff, I just hope my efforts aren't wasted tho hahhahaha

See there's always an upside to everything. :) Sure the payout right now ain't that big but I still do believe that someday it will pay off. I am really glad that people are now starting to take a notice on you as that is probably the hardest thing a newbie can do here. You also have gained some solid support and gained friends with the same interests as yours. Hope you stick and grow more in here :)

But hey, my live stream sketches for my account and your account are very exclusive you know XD

Ha ha ha I know. Thanks! As usual I am very much thankful for you filling up some time on my daily routine. :)

hahaha yes, I honestly am into the "money" thingy the first time I arrive at this platform. You know that hahahah your pay outs encouraged me to join lolz.

But recently, especially the past few days, I earned a little but you know what, "whatever", i learned to not look at gina's vote value reports and what i observed is that I kinda feel like I am free from the pressure. hahahaha

I realized that I just really love art, reminiscing how I did the artworks I'm posting made me realize how far I had improved to the level I am right now (chos, bsag layu pagud sa bryan sola goal, but getting there).

Anyway, resume na sa regular sched next week hahaha

Well same here. :)

First thing that caught my attention on this platform was a meme earning around $100+ andd yeahh it wasn't even that funny lol

That's why I thought I would do well on this platform as I have more sense than those people, although over time reality starts to kick in so I also just enjoyed the platform as much as I can now :)

And good luck on your goal. Kunti nalang del malalampasan mo na siya ha ha Clients nalang ata kulang eh ;)

Posted using Partiko Android

This is very true. Especially about the reward system - lost my motivation 'cause of this. I exhausted my brain thinking of quality contents to create and ended up not doing them because of the low reward. I was here to earn money honestly so my motivation plummeted so quickly after realizing it. Quality contents are only quality content for only 7 days, beyond that they are useless.

The best way to combat this is to never expect much reward (Don't think about money at all) and enjoy the platform while it is currently enjoyable. Don't put too much effort. Trivial and timely posts often get attention, so posting about what is currently trending is the key and give it a little twist.

Nice post choi.

They aren't useless as these rank in the search engines and we have an audience there, potential opportunities and even potential helpers on there. Too much effort, grows the substance. You can afford to be your own first audience, shake the blockchain with your beauty and opportunities will reverse and seek you out because these have no choice but to be drawn towards your frequency. For days, when motivation is low and posting ideas grow scarce, try out ULOGGING

I am actually honestly impressed about how Steem articles are mostly the ones dominating the search rank on google. Truth be told I've discovered this platform through an article I've searched online. I know it will defeat the purpose of decentralization if ads are in place, but just imagine what it can do.

Thanks chuy! :)

The best way to combat this is to never expect much reward (Don't think about money at all) and enjoy the platform while it is currently enjoyable. Don't put too much effort. Trivial and timely posts often get attention, so posting about what is currently trending is the key and give it a little twist.

Also do write things that you are really into. I've written about "Anime" related things for almost a month even though I was fully aware that only a few here will be interested on it. Money-wise it wasn't that good as I only got some $$$ from it but it did get me some solid followers with the same interests as mine so I guess it's kind of a win. :)

That's a well argumented post, I'm a newbie so many of the things you've mentioned in the article are a bit too complex for me, the artists issue it's interesting some of them don't know much about Steemit or don't publish their work well, and because of this, they have ridiculous payments.

In my case, I try to publish them and I don't get much for it, but it's still annoying for a minnow to try posting something interesting and be rewarded so poorly. Don't get me wrong I'm not here for money, I do because I like the enviroment, but still there is here a refrain "ass I see , ass I want". XD

Thanks! And I do somewhat get you :) Steem is still more better than other platforms like FB, Youtube and even a personal blog.

Problem right now is how some people are more rewarded more compared to others who deserve more :)

Posted using Partiko Android

There is an interesting initiative on-going now, maybe you know about it 1UP, what I read about it seems interesting.

Tottaly. Agree with your all points that's why i don't bother to create some quality content lol and also because of some sort of other bad things em loosing my interest in this platform🙄 well you are doing great keep it up 🤗

Thanks Xawi :)

Posted using Partiko Android

What you feel isn't quality may be quality to others, so create it still. Stay present. Try ulogging on days when motivation is short.

What will help is that you check history. Then, allow yourself to have history. In general, your content should be priceless and according to me it is. There are different forms of rewards too, votes being one and how is see it, a vote can mean many things more than just a means to reward. Money are the smaller things. Many things require time to fall into place and if you dig up steemit's history, you may appreciate the now better. Things change. Things are changing. You can bring about change, exactly how you want it. These things have happened. Plus, it is a social environment and there is a real life paradigm. Even if one is the best at something, there is also a time factor. If you arrived somewhere and there is a queue, you likely won't jump the queue. Same will be the case anywhere because it is a social space. Plus, what is rewarded on steem is value and value can be many things at different times, content constituting one form of value and there are many other things that constitute value. Also look more at steem, steemit being just a part. Plus, join the weekly steemgigs talk, sunday 12 am Manila time, i will love to answer questions. For steem, each one is stakeholder. We take steem to the moon. Again looking at steem as whole will help you grasp its beauty better as there are others sides beyond blogging to it. Also its success isn't measured in bulls and bears because among the bots, a real community exists of real people with the steemit effect and it is solid and can move stuff. For many things on here, there is no measure. Not getting votes for instance, isnt a measure of the quality of your work as there is no question about quality, where there is no real measure for who measures. Again, according to me, excerpts of humans can be priceless and i am not one to measure it. I can only manage to inspire more than reward. Another thing is the numbers grow and this is where other factors have to come into play. With smts, interfaces can decide how to distribute their pool. And even currently, interfaces can decides other strategies to reward after seven days. It use to be up to 30 days in the past and that it is 7 days now doesnt mean it will stick on that way as community exists and if it decides to move, things adjust as history has shown. Payout was also 24 hours in the past. There wasn't delegation in the past either. Now, if you own steem like you do, you can bring about just the change that you want even on on a large scale. So as you pinpoint things that you would like to have changed, craft remedies out and play them out till they enter fruition.

There are different forms of rewards too, votes being one and how is see it, a vote can mean manythings more than just a means to reward.

True. Sometimes it's the people you got to know, interact with and gain after (solid followers) makes all the posts one makes all worth it. Money might be the one that lure people in to this platform but it is the social interaction among others that makes them stay.

Things change. Things are changing. You can bring about change, exactly how you want it. And even currently, interfaces can decides other strategies to reward after seven days. It use to be up to 30 days in the past and that it is 7 days now doesnt mean it will stick on that way as community exists and if it decides to move, things adjust as history has shown. Payout was also 24 hours in the past. There wasn't delegation in the past either.

Yep the thing about Steem platforms especially Steemit.com is it's still on "beta". There are still room for improvements and possible features that will be added, removed or change to overall improve the steem platform. The thing is that it's been almost over a year since the last hardfork and people are now beginning to question if Steemit is have finally gave up. All they did for months now was just give us "updates" via @steemitblog as to how close those possible changes will be, but still no eta unto when. Well it's still better than nothing I guess.

For many things on here, there is no measure. Not getting votes for instance, isnt a measure of the quality of your work as there is no question about quality, where there is no real measure for who measures.

I will have to agree on this. The way I see Steem honestly is that social interactions among others are rewarded more more than quality.

Another thing is the numbers grow and this is where other factors have to come into play. With smts, interfaces can decide how to distribute their pool.

I think this one is kind of similar to "Metcalfe's Law" wherein the value of a network grows as more users are using it. With only ~60k active accounts daily, counting bots/alts the platform still have a long way to go.

I for one is on here for the long term. Most if not all payouts I had got over the course of 7months was all used to power up this account. I now have an SP of over 500+ without investing any real money on Steem but just by delivering decent contents. I really do believe that Steem will take us to the moon in a year or two from now. Dlive, Dtube and even your Ulogs and steemgigs are what will make this all possible.

I still remember when I first started in here and the "philippines" tag wasn't that much used by anyone. But after your support through upvotes and your teardrops initiatives an encouraging everyone to be the star of their own blog (U-log), at one point it even made it to the top 20 tag. I do hope we have more witnesses like you :)

That was very detailed man, I think you already got this in the bag.

The 7-day period, for me, is a double edged blade. It prompts users to come up with something to post periodically therefore increasing interactions inside the community but at the same time it makes anything that has passed the time limit, as you said, basically obsolete.

The 2nd point is also a nice perspective since I am seeing a lot of talk about that but this might be the first time I read this kind of opinion. Though I won't say that I can completely relate, it is really frustrating to work hard on something to basically earn little to none.

This will be the start of AI takeover lol. Though there are a lot of annoying bots here, there are still those that are quite beneficial. But the use of bots to benefit one selves got me worried, because I think that, if people only care about milking the platform, then steem would eventually die, because if that come to pass, it basically failed to perform its purpose - a social networking site.

Posted using Partiko Android

Thanks and Good Luck to you too :)

The 7-day period, for me, is a double edged blade. It prompts users to come up with something to post periodically therefore increasing interactions inside the community

True. When I first started my "One Day/Post" challenge, the hardest thing was thinking of something to write about and finding someone with the same interests as mine

The 2nd point is also a nice perspective since I am seeing a lot of talk about that but this might be the first time I read this kind of opinion. It is really frustrating to work hard on something to basically earn little to none.

Thanks! Also the reason why these days most of my posts or articles are just rants or something that I can easily deliver (live stream lol). I don't want to be disappointed that much :)

if people only care about milking the platform, then steem would eventually die

I just really hoped that the changes that they speak of in the next hardfork would at least fix these issues. I don't exactly know the right numbers but it seems that almost 75% of users are just trying to game the system.

75% sounds like we're in deep trouble lol. If we'd think about it, these problems are connected, if people are only gaming the system then that is a probable reason why it is hard to find people or community that shares the same interest because majority of the users are just looking for ways to earn and can't really be bothered with making "real" interactions. This in turn leads to the problem of having disappointing payout despite the effort put by those that are really trying, especially if they see senseless posts getting huge amount. This would have adverse effect that may lead to the people who are exerting effort to eventually drop the platform altogether.

Posted using Partiko Android

Overall, steem is not a Content based platform. Because it is a "social media" platform, post what ever you want what ever you like. Upon doing shit post, lets not also expect a lot of rewards.

Because it is a "social media" platform, post what ever you want what ever you like.

I used to believe actually on this one. "Post whatever you want whatever you like". When I first come here I did exactly the same thing I treated this platform like I would normally treat FB/Twitter and even Reddit. I posted memes, some random quotes (It's what I do on FB lol) and yeah I did not expect rewards as I was just still testing if the whole platform was real or a scam.

Weeks passed, I've realized that it's not really that much free in here. People are so quick to downvote others especially if the account who does all that is kind of weak. Newbies who where told that this platform is just another FB/Insta but instead of pure likes those likes where turned into crypto money. I have seen many people who left disappointed after being downvoted for not exactly knowing the reason why and that was because the post they "want to post" where treated as "spam" by others. :)

Congratulations @jlordc! You have completed the following achievement on Steemit and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

You published a post every day of the week

Click on the badge to view your Board of Honor.
If you no longer want to receive notifications, reply to this comment with the word STOP

To support your work, I also upvoted your post!

Do you like SteemitBoard's project? Then Vote for its witness and get one more award!

Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by jlordc from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, someguy123, neoxian, followbtcnews, and netuoso. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows. Please find us at the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.

If you would like to delegate to the Minnow Support Project you can do so by clicking on the following links: 50SP, 100SP, 250SP, 500SP, 1000SP, 5000SP.
Be sure to leave at least 50SP undelegated on your account.

Coin Marketplace

STEEM 0.18
TRX 0.15
JST 0.029
BTC 63540.43
ETH 2481.91
USDT 1.00
SBD 2.66