@Sweetsssj : Sixth Day Eleventh Hour Selfvoting via a 13-Account Content Farm ?
An aquaintance of mine suggested I read an article about @sweetsssj which you can find here
Within it and its comments it is described how @sweetsssj is systematically upvoting a certain group of accounts on the sixth day and how the rewards of all those accounts go to the same bittrex memo, which is supposed to be @sweetsssj's
So I decided to investigate this issue to find out how much truth there was to it.
Researching this I found out @sweetsssj had a 500000 SP (1,029.059 MV) delegation from @ned from August 8th until October 24th 2017
https://steemd.com/tx/53eb70b93f6d4ea242309c61e95e51715a2f2669
https://steemd.com/tx/29bd56a79d4f7843a632f4e4ec8178b42fd7ac31
and was caught selling votes with it
This article by @paulag has some good intel on the case.
At this moment @sweetsssj has the following delegations:
351265 SP from @hendrikdegrote (717.866 MV)
301294 SP from @systema (615.776 MV)
108270 SP from @temet-nosce (221.998 MV)
http://www.steemreports.com/delegation-info/?account=sweetsssj
Now, lets take a look at @sweetsssj outgoing votes for the last
4 months: http://www.steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=sweetsssj&days=120
Notice these accounts on the right side of the graphic:
1-@twinkledrop 2-@michaelleeld 3-@wisemansays 4-@thecatfiles
5-@helgachen 6-@sherrychan 7- @allanlong 8-@maysun
9-@trendylife 10-@ashely056 11-@honeybee 12-@amylee 13-@serenawu
These accounts transferred all rewards made to two bittrex memos for a long time, although recently they switched to encrypted memos, most likely to obfuscate detection.
Together they represent 48.1 % of @sweetsssj outgoing votes in the last 4 months
These are not accounts buying votes, but accounts transferring every reward they make to the following bittrex memos
SBD memo is 5bdbb32f342b431e987
STEEM memo is f439b10436fa4edb836
Who do these memos belong to?
Well, investigating I found out that these two memos were used by many accounts to buy votes from @sweetsssj , in the last 6 months many of the vote buyers initially sent sbd and steem directly to @sweetsssj and then switched to using those memos.
For example here we can see user @johndahl sending 0.50 sbd to @sweetsssj in exchange for a vote on the link: https://steemit.com/steemiteducation/@jondahl/basketball-2-learn-to-catch-and-hold-the-ball-belajar-menangkap-dan-memegang-bola-eng-ind which is included in the memo https://steemd.com/tx/78b8f8cec5e361588941ec37bccaa9ddb77115a4
And here you can see the corresponding vote by @sweetsssj
https://steemd.com/steemiteducation/@jondahl/basketball-2-learn-to-catch-and-hold-the-ball-belajar-menangkap-dan-memegang-bola-eng-ind
Here you can see the same user sending @sweetsssj 10 SBD to the
bittrex memo 5bdbb32f342b431e987
https://steemd.com/tx/b9f96c1cb39e5f7695f367fb556f2c1f9603c03a
And here you can see the same user sending @sweetsssj 20 STEEM
to bittrex memo f439b10436fa4edb836
https://steemd.com/tx/45b06e327014238910285ed00f0b98b7892f67f3
And here we have a jewel, an operator mistake,
https://steemd.com/tx/4a6ab5c3b8cbeede76faaad98b12afbc876b82f0
the user is sending 10 SBD to @sweetsssj directly
but in the memo field he inserts the SBD bittrex memo 5bdbb32f342b431e987
I think we can say with a decent level of certainty that memo belongs to @sweetsssj
Sixth Day Voting
Regarding sixth day voting lets look at some recent data,
these are 9 high power votes by @sweetsssj from the last 24 hours:
1- https://steemd.com/travel/@helgachen/visiting-one-of-the-most-beautiful-small-villages-in-all-of-europe
Created 2018-02-05 20:27:36 Voted 2018-02-12 07:28:57 @ 100%
6 days 11 hours
2- https://steemd.com/cn/@twinkledrop/travel-with-rainie-visiting-the-birdland-in-bourton-on-the-water-2-rainie
Created 2018-02-06 07:08:24 Voted 2018-02-12 17:44:15 @ 100%
6 days 9 hours 36 minutes
3- https://steemd.com/film/@movieperminute/the-lego-movie-2014
Created 2018-02-07 00:01:00 Voted 2018-02-12 18:05:36 @ 25%
5 days 18 hours and 6 minutes
4- https://steemd.com/cn/@michaelleeld/string-string-sweet
Created 2018-02-06 13:34:09 Voted 2018-02-13 00:19:33 @ 45%
6 days 10 hours and 45 minutes
5- https://steemd.com/cat/@thecatfiles/the-alpha
Created 2018-02-06 23:54:24 Voted 2018-02-13 10:35:48 @ 100%
6 days 10 hours and 41 minutes
6- https://steemd.com/prose/@honeybee/desires
Created 2018-02-06 20:11:45 Voted 2018-02-13 06:56:12 @ 100%
6 days 10 hours and 45 minutes
7- https://steemd.com/travel/@sherrychan/the-asian-way-of-bar-crawling
Created 2018-02-06 18:32:36 Voted 2018-02-13 05:31:03 @ 100%
6 days 10 hours and 59 minutes
8- https://steemd.com/cn/@amylee/etmvq
Created 2018-02-06 17:13:09 Voted 2018-02-13 03:58:54 @ 100%
6 days 10 hours and 45 minutes
9- https://steemd.com/cn/@serenawu/unico
Created 2018-02-06 15:32:54 Voted 2018-02-13 02:31:06 @ 100%
6 days 10 hours and 59 minutes
Now, the accounts, I will begin with a summary of two accounts in this initial post.
@honeybee
- Account created september 2016
- 4 posts during september 2016, 1 post during march 7 2017
- Begins to be regularly active July 7 2017
- Every single post but 4 are voted by @sweetsssj
- First post voted by @sweetsssj 30 minutes after published
https://steemd.com/tx/d44def54aac4098640f751984ecfb80a92c7b695
https://steemd.com/tx/52d25595c588ff62f426b32a95009438bd28a8a3
Rewards Last Month
1300 SBD----->usd6539
300SP---------->usd1251
Total USD 7790
- Total posts last month: 12
- Average per post last month: USD 649
- Begins to be upvoted by @sweetsssj on the 6th day on: October 26th
- Account powering down 1675 SP
- Starts using memo 5bdbb32f342b431e987 on september 9th 2017
https://steemd.com/tx/bf8926247ab412809fb23078cdfdc796704e37aa
Total Rewards
5360 SBD----->USD 27014
7010 STEEM ----->USD 29231
Total USD 56245
- Total posts 160
- Average rewards per post USD 351
Percentage of incoming votes from @sweetsssj in the last 7 months 84%
http://www.steemreports.com/incoming-votes-info/?account=honeybee&days=210
@twinkledrop
- Account created july 9 2017
- First post is upvoted by @sweetsssj 75 minutes after published
https://steemd.com/tx/cdc1fd8eaf3e5da9c02d5214482d0782ae5deced
https://steemd.com/tx/84fdbc70817b08f430e6e51f92ddbf0e191f6082 - Starts using memo 5bdbb32f342b431e987 on December 8 2017
https://steemd.com/tx/ee16dab8e6291e9874045bdbf345e6025b5a8572 - Begins being upvoted by @sweetsssj on the sixth day on October 16 2017
- Every post voted by @sweetsssj except for 8
Rewards last month
5204 SBD ----->usd26228
913 SP---------->usd3807
Total USD 30035
- Posts last month 30
- Average per post USD 1001
- Account powering down 3777 SP
Total Rewards
8481 SBD------->USD 42744
5189 STEEM------->USD 26100
Total USD 68844
- Total posts 183
- Average per post: USD 376
- Percentage incoming votes from @sweetsssj in the last 7 months: 82.3%
http://www.steemreports.com/incoming-votes-info/?account=twinkledrop&days=210
To Be Continued...
This has gone far enough.
You should find better things to do than try start witch hunts based on incomplete and defamatory information. I devote the large majority of votes to my friends and family who happen to come from a country (China) where Crypto is quickly becoming incredibly difficult to use. Yet, the value of a platform which gives them a voice and freedom from oppressive regimes is something I will continue to push, not just to my friends and family, but people all over China as well as the developing world at large. Countless people have joined Steemit because of my efforts over the last 1.5 years, and even more people who are now inspired to write travel and food blogs from seeing my blogs as an example.
I will support the people who have decide to take up steemit because it is their only avenue for expressing themselves freely. This is an intangible value which even with my full vote cannot be measured or felt in the short term. Rather, the rippling effect of being able to remain free to share, participate and earn will collectively contribute to a movement freeing a nation of people from oppression and censorship.
Those of you who insist on continuing the witch hunt by parading higher moral fibre whilst turning an eye to actual abuse, may I remind you that you are harming my friends, family and other people whom I support because you simply do not know the other half of the story. It is far easier for you to complain at the apparent injustice and go the route of ad hominem, completely forgetting the fact that for every bit of extra reward earned by one person, another has to compromise. This is not a socialist platform, and it never will be, please do not perceive the fact that rewards going to some people mean that if that were not the case, the rewards would be coming to you. It simply doesn't work like that.
Friends, family - including my own parents, uncles, aunties have contributed what I deem to be valuable, and I am acting within the rules set forth by the protocol by voting for them. A lot of the issues here seem to be directed at the fact that my friends and family send their earnings to a single place to cash out, how is that illegal? How is it fraudulent? How is it wrong that a family member cashes out the crypto on behalf of people in a country where crypto has pretty much been outlawed and the three largest crypto exchanges have now been shut down with more oppression to come?
Are you judging their content at all? Or are you just jealous that you are not a close friend or family member and that voting for friends and family is illegal and fraudulent on this platform? (It's not) Because should you want to exercise such a high standard of morality, then you surely have better cases to be worried about than me and my circle of friends and family who contribute real content and not just 4 word comments and self voted n number of times per day. If you want a good look at an example of that, then take a look at :
I suppose your grandiose accusations of grand theft and fraud on my part despite my explanations are some how in your mind still worth attacking, and likely boil down to the fact that you probably just don't like me for whatever reason, and have chosen to go the selective bully route because you probably feel cheated at the fact that I've never voted for you. Unlike other stake holders with considerable SP, I have never thrown downvotes around or threatened them, and you probably feel comforted by that making me an even easier target.
Over a year ago, I met Ned and invited him to dinner along with my mother in Hong Kong. He recommended that I get her and the rest of my family to join Steemit. She is one of the first people from my circle to join, and has been contributing diligently for over a year. She along with the rest of our friends and family have done nothing wrong and by launching your attack on them, you are in effect saying you think people who write 500+ words often in two languages and post original images similar to the kind that I do, do not deserve their rewards whilst people who write 4 letter comments do. It's so easy to turn a blind eye sometimes but I guess as they say : a drowning man will clutch at straws. Frankly, if you directed your energy into writing something of my liking, like the many other people who you haven't listed which I support, then I would still consider upvoting you. As it stands, false defamatory posts painting an incomplete picture of the situation will not attract my attention, and you vehemently asserting incorrect facts will not, and do not, make them true.
Self voting is a claim you make based on them sharing the same memo. You don't know enough about me, my friends, my family, the situation of cashing out in China, to be sufficiently informed about why this is necessary. So yes, this is false.
You're welcome.
Not a single person called 'walden' has messaged me on Steemit chat which is the only place I ever hang out.
I vote within the time period permissible by the rules of the protocol.
You're doing this in order to everyone not to notice you're farming the reward pool. But ooops.
If you're falling back on it being permissible by the rules of the protocol, then the same can be said about what @walden is doing making people aware of it, or about what I've been doing downvoting them.
We're all invested to some degree in this network, so ideally we should be on the same side. Having read some of your explanations I'm inclined to stop downvoting, but I still hope you'll at least reconsider the last day voting. It looks really bad.
4, Stop playing dumb, He's asking you why.
yeah please answer the question of @spectrumcons @transisto
If you wonder why I upvote comments that are simple links saying "Explanation for high upvote" maybe you should start by clicking the link.
I'll take "I have no shame," for 200 SBD, Alex!
You accused her in the title, its right there
sweetsssj-sixth-day-eleventh-hour-selfvoting-via-a-13-account-content-
a content farm implies shes doing something nefarious
Go find REAL abuse damnit.. she brings quality content, if u dont like her content too bad tens of thousands of steemians do so tough
get a life and focus on real problems of steemit dont confuse the minnows into thinking sweetsssj is bad, shes not shes worked really hard for steem, if it wasn't for her providing content that brought people back day after day, there might not even be steem as we know it so go create a list of all the value you added to steem blockchain and show me what it looks like compared to everything she has produced AND everything she upvoted like all my projects and all my friends project in Team Ghana #teamghana has a lot of key members like @mcsamm @tj4real @emmanueloppong who all are here because she upvoted me and them and they got support from her on many of their early posts that helped them get known by other dolphins and whales and they are bringing thousands of users and millions of dollars to steemit and they are but a FRACTION of what she has helped Uplift from her constant curating constantly upvoting MANY minnows MANY new users MANy people EVERYDAY so WTF what have YOU done Walden where is YOUR steempower, youve been here from the beginning why havent you saved any steempower you just power down and leach from steemit and the you LEACH attention!
How dare you make this fuckin post how about we talk about all your abuses and make a post all about your bullshit and how you do nothing good for steemit . Its just dumb why start this shit its pathetic you have NOTHING better to do?
You sowed the wind and you shall reap the whirlwind walden. @uradick was right to be doing what he did for so long
"Apply water in the burned area" lol, that was intense hehe. But, yes at the end we have to put in a balance who does more for the platform.
And I also agree if it would be true I prefer much more a productive Whale than a lot of bloodsucker whales raping the reward pool with self-upvotes and flag wars!
Of all this noise your comment stands out bro! Folks are hating on @sweetssj and not focusing on making their own quality content. I am in Ghana as well and am working on a #tedtalk style meetup for march. Let me know if your interested and ill fill you in on the details.
You're using that meme wrong. Shame on you.
Oh my....
So sweeeet.
hi，美女，我把这篇文章翻译了扔在cn区，不过我觉的只放一家之言太偏颇了.请问我能不能把你的解释也一并翻译并放在文中呢？或者你在我那篇文章评论区里留言也好。打搅了
very great to know about your support hope you also will support me @sweetsssj and also will get in touch with you by upvoting folloing you and hope you will do the same for me to get progress here
thank you in advance @fruityfinkamran
It is your vote. You use your vote how you want. Do not let other tell you how to vote. No one has a right to tell you how to vote. No one period. I think it is good that you are supporting your family and your friends, but you also support others and steemit with your post. And no I have not voted on any of your post that I can recall. I did look at a couple of your post, but no vote and no comment. I have been using my vote elsewhere. Your vote always, no one else's.
How did her English suddenly get so academically good compared to any post she ever made about food?
It's obvious that many people on the trending page have editors or writers...heck I would. I'm thinking of getting my husband to research for me ... this is common sense...with the rewards she makes she would be crazy not to employee an assistant.
To write her public appeal arguments in this instance? Or to write her posts in very different grammer styles than displayed here. So is she an imposter when making her case here? Or when taking vastly unbalanced reward pool shares for bikini pics? Which one is the real one and what are the ramifications of it being someone else in either case? Think that over carefully.... there are ramifications to each scenario.
@sircork, nice to talk with you again, I have enjoyed reading some of your post. You are suggesting this account is a host to multiple users. I've thought about this a lot actually but not because of sweetjsss's issues, the trending page has the same actors day in and day out churning out masses of data. How can one person do that make the trending page every day or every time they post? OMG...so boring to wear the same clothes or no clothes (haha) every day, which is what the trending page shows people who are checking steemit out.
When I read post like this and see the obvious greed from small to large accounts gaming the system I often think about...
Corruption Causes Poverty
If steemit wants to survive we need some codes of conduct and the ability to ban bots and people who abuse the system.
I am against centralized authority. My comments here are only because I feel the person answering the arguments here is not the same person who makes the posts and I am finding that to be very interesting, though uncertain how relevant it is.
I agree that corruption causes poverty, and I fight poverty every day with my teams at @YouAreHOPE Foundation, steems premier worldwide humanitarian aid organization, so I'm with ya. But I don't want centralized rule.
It's a tough situation sometimes.
I could argue that codes of conduct are not centralized authority if a group the group write up the codes and we all agree on how to abide by them.
I don't feel like doing that since I have several large projects staring at me ...saying, "get to work."
I will check @youarehope foundation out! I work on an individual bases with my charity work and avoid large charity groups that I cannot physically check out to see how things operate.
I've worked in many small and large groups and raised a family, without some kind of moral and ethical rules and a way to enforce them the groups/family fall apart quickly.
There's nothing wrong with employing ghost writers and editors. That's my day job. I am a ghost. It says so on my profile. Most of my work on the outside has somebody else's name on it. Who cares if you get paid?
I also have enjoyed many of her posts and updated a couple. I like to learn about cool attractions that I will probably never get to visit myself. She seems like an intelligent, cultured, and pleasant young lady to me. I am a female, so the bikini pics don't do a thing.
On the other hand, it's tough to get traction if you start with a modest investment, so I wish there was a more balanced way for the small fish to get fed here. That's certainly why there are so many dead fish in the pond. There are some great curation efforts like #steemstem, but yeah, most of the trending page is crap.
Not sure if you read the post, but this has very little to do with ghost writing.
This needs more upvotes
Exactly my thought!
She has hired a top lawyer, let's say, but then we may have to rewrite the rules of Steemit should we want to make her feel guilty for that.
Just days ago I saw some shitty, unreadable posts that got like 200 SBD and I was like WTF. That's more than what I have in total. So I will say, let's go after those unreadable posts first. It may not be fair on our part to throw mud at quality content in the hope that it may accidentally stick.
From my own experience, I have to say that content creators need MOTIVATION. Not a witch hunt.
Her content is worthy of imitation. Just beautiful!
But she -if there really is a "she" or a single person behind that post- is milking out the network HARD. I find it very important to go down on heavy liches like this account. The degree of money being cleared off the network is too heavy.
CODE is LAW
THEN UPDATE THE CODE.
Totally agree
'1. Yes. As far as I know, the post by @paulag you cited is false. I wrote a post criticizing it.
'4. Minnows can share more curation rewards if they vote before the whale votes. 6th day is good for more minnows to share.
@walden there are also other people who are ready to support you and also looking back for your support @fruityfinkamran
3, You try to justify it by contacting him but you do not confirm to the person you mentioned in your writing, maybe with information from them you will have some consideration before guessing a job someone else. I may be very offended by the kindness of others you make excuses to blame. if you do not contact him then be patient for a moment better than you directly punish him.
Him? (Second Freudian Slip)
Aren't you the user mentioned in the post that buys votes from her?
Thank you for your mistakes
Not true as you allege. if you have a problem with someone you do not like then I think you solved it. I do not need a word of gratitude from you.
What is not true as I allege? everything I allege is backed...
Her @walden according to me you are doing really great job because I got some information from this post So, I am supporting you, and hope you will support me as well.
Thanks
People are bitter because you bring in a lot of money with your posts and the content is rather....surface...it doesn't go very deep. It's just pictures of a pretty girl and fancy food and fancy places, things that everyone either really wants (so they are jealous) or has little to no interest in (so they think it's overvalued). I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm just explaining why you become a target. I appreciate this kind of in depth look into where such a large portion of our reward pool is goin and hope to see a similar examination of any top users, though I understand your frustration if something was misrepresented here.
I personally don't want to say anything negative about anyone who is honest and transparent, regardless of how I feel about your posts. I feel anyone with so much weight (power) should be much more transparent. You might invite less criticism with a higher level of transparency. You know that most long time users on steemit believe there is a team behind your account. Whether this is true or not is notnreally a great concern of mine, but perhaps more transparency will help you to avoid headaches such as this.
I don't really feel ANY posts are worth as much as yours, but I don't place the blame on you, but rather on the established whales who continue to vote for people who ALWAYS go trending no matter what they contribute. I find you to be polite and friendly enough and I have not seen you pour fuel onto the fire of any drama at steemit so I do have to give you that. But perhaps this is just the cost of fame, which is why I search for success without fame.
No hard feelings, just want to make a suggestion. And one more, I hope you use your voting power to help out some of the many struggling minnows on the platform.
Have a good day steemit celebrity ;-P
She does use her voting power to help MANy struggling minnows go look at her freakin votes go look at her curation and look at all the followers she has you think she got those without helping a LOT of people?
I just hate how people are assuming he is making ALL this money without upvoting ANYONE else she upvotes MANY more people than herself
people are committing the sin of class warfare on steem, its 100% jelousy , jelousy from people without steempower and jealousy from other whales who don't have as many followers
That's good to know. I don't assume anyone gets a lot of followers for being a good person because I know most people prioritize their own success at the platform and upvoting content that is sure to make money is one way to do it. But that doesn't mean I assume she doesn't help people.
When the wealth is so unevenly distributed you can't blame the ones who don't have much for the class warfare. I certainly think we can do without any warfare and talk about it though.
I have no hard feelings for @sweetsssj, I just don't believe anyone deserves $600+ for a post when just $1-10 would make such a huge difference to the vast majority of users and so she is one of the few dozen steemians who I consider to be overvalued by default and that has nothing to do with her content or who she is as a person or whether or not she is a "she" or a "they". So I stand by everything I just said.
And it's good that you share your experience and opinion too.
I apologize to any newbies in here who I got mad for believing this troll post
Walden is just a troll, he makes himself sound smart so he tricks a lot of people but just LOOK at Waldens Blogs, its crazy how little he actually posts useful stuff its just whatever, i just cant focus on this anymore
I think her posts are fine. She has expenses to travel to these places, take photos, and then translate her posts into at least two languages. It's hard to produce that level of quality without an initial investment. It's possible that some of the places she highlights also pay her for promotion. Hey, it's a good gig. There are problems and worse offenders here.
seems to me you are mixing something shady with something real.
Also - I did not like to see you flagging this post like a criminal trying to hide evidence or make sure nobody sees it. And may I add - you spend too many words "explaining yourself" - like people often do when they are lying.
The way you act and the way you explain yourself, @sweetsssj makes a lot of people doubt you right now, as the owner of http://STEEMspeak.com I can tell you first hand that people are extremely extremely interested in your business-dealings, finding the "key" to your "success"...
And I believe people like Walden, and others - once they start digging they wont stop - and why should they? Maybe they find something you dont want them to find? Maybe that is exactly what needs to be found? If there is nothing there - then why are you acting as if it was?
Do you understand how many people see it? And do you understand that flagging @walden was a dumb thing to do?
frystikken, thank you for highlighting your concern and bringing some insight. Perhaps it was heavy handed but the real issue is people making incorrect assertions based on incomplete information and making judgements from it.
It's fine to dig, but finding something and calling it something else - in this case, me voting a bunch of friends and family and outwardly claiming those are me selfvoting is categorically wrong.
I haven't been involved in crypto long enough, so I don't have good experience with how to cash out. In China, it was difficult before, and after the recent crackdown even more so. Thankfully, I have a friend who cashes out for me and does so on my behalf as well as the others and this is why we share a memo.
Thanks for the wisdom F
Do you know how to convert Steem in to bitcoin and store it on your phone?
That is obviously not what she is talking about
Why don't you go to China and try making money off Steem OR bitcoin and CASH IT OUT or SPEND it without getting in trouble and tell us how easy that is for you ....huh?
What's obvious is that there are way more people who will exchange fiat for BTC rather than STEEM anywhere in the world. So having it converted to BTC on her own is the only thing that should happening at bittrex. That she's delegating that simple step to someone else is a bit odd.
Well, there's two sides to this. As somebody living in China, it's actually quite easy - localbitcoins. Can get it sent straight to your Alipay (for the sake of this comment - like paypal). I've done it to order pizza and stuff for proof of concept.
That being said, Chinese citizens are forced to register their ID to any of these websites (many of the big ones simply don't allow or have a separate, chinese-version of their website), removing any anonymity and security-from-government. The best way to get around this is to get somebody like me - a non chinese living in china - to do it with their home country ID
don't be a dick.
Hello, let me introduce you to ackza.
He's a dick.
@grey580 , slothicorn was talking to transisto , not me . Do something productive like call out walden for being the troll he is ...
If I think it's appropriate. I will.
If you keep creating value for others here on Steemit or anywhere else, this value will come back to you. Keep being awesome. Keep being yourself.
Let them say or post what they like but i know that you are Heart of Steemit community and we will always support you
I just get so mad sometimes on here
I have t o breath and realize its all juts a video game
I just want to see winners rewarded , i just dont like seeing people without much success calling out the person with the success as if they are wrong for making money on steemit... she deserves her moneys . Shes contributed a LOT to steemit and has brought many many many people and she will be bring many millions of Chinese to steem she should not be treated like this
I get the whole open discussion thing but come on we should be bearing down on REAL problems not this, this is just crazy
It's not a video game and nobody's doubting her contribution to Steem.
@transisto You are so helpful. your blogs and resteems are awesome. I am waiting for your next post. Thanks for everything. God bless you.
That would be interesting :)
We see how you're trying to mix the pot for Troll Drama. Find something else that constitutes actual abuse. This is obviously a witch hunt.
Make another shitcoin video with your energy. This doesn't make you look pretty.
lol thank you for that, made me smile, isn't she able to express herself. Even a community account up/downvoting for her. Makes everything more suspicious. There are simple questions still awaiting for answers, yet..
*I'm so excited for my first flag
I appreciate this explanation. I guess you voting them on the 6 day highlights some of the issues Steem currently has.
To make it clear, I understand why you don't upvote them sooner and you might consider those post shouldn't end up trending but that doesn't mean those posts aren't worth what you are giving them.
Worth is something subjective. I vote on stuff with 100% upvote that some people would think wasn't even worth 1 cent.
Steem is not always an obvious place and things aren't always as they seem. Steem is full of issues just like our society at large. Everyone is trying to do their best with what they have.
if we are reasonable Im sure we can all understand eachother
Well said as usual!
You are an honorable man!
@teamsteem once again you judged maturely and correctly...making me feel proud voting you as my witness... worth is something subjective indeed. I support all @sweetsssj posts because I love the quality and if I were to have her steem power (Gosh I wish one day) I will vote family and friends too (plus other people too as I do daily) ...who wont do that? damn why get steem power then? hmmmm thanks for your comment
@walden this is far enough..what are you doing? destroying the reputation of the very talented girl in this community.
are you jealous of her the circle of her friends that support her?
we love her and we always do.
please don't do this again instead make yourself have a positive mind that can influence people to improve them self.
don't make an issue to @sweetsssj again. @walden you are not helping the community of steemit.have a life...stop this none sense issue on her.
I think it is worth a community discussion. The blockchain is transparent for a reason. I didn't see him call you a thief, I thought the post questioned if you were selling votes, which isn't a crime or even frowned on by all.
I think we can just discuss if this is the best use of the reward pool. I also agree transisto's actions and Haejin are also a concern. The rest of us who have investments here deserve to understand where the reward pool is going.
Nothing personal from me, but I want to discuss it.
there are a lot bigger fish to fry, this is not worth a community discussion if we arent going to actually discuss real issues like account creation and other such matters, I didnt sign up to steem to scrutinize Top content creators wallet memos and you didnt either
walden and fyrst are just being admitted trolls and creating drama on purpose and that is fine, more attention and more followers for sweetsssj, great, good job.
If you don't wish to discuss it, why don't you go ahead and not discuss it.
If you didn't sign up to talk about this... Then don't.
Seemed like you like Fyrst, just fine until he disagreed with you on an issue.
GOOD point!
The truth is that EVERYTHING is worthy of a discussion, especially if there are 2 or more people interested in that discussion!
True dat.
please stop spamming the same meme over and over.
You wish......
支持甜心，其实这些人就是眼红。不要影响自己的心情哈。
agree ,support @sweetsssj
@sweetsssj : I am supporting you, period.
Well said!
Each of my travel post is easily 500 words in 2 languages too. Compare that to those rubbish memes earning 100x more than me :(
You have our support @sweetsssj. You are one of the few big whales who actually make quality content! I salute you for that! 甜心姐加油！
I -I-I want to atttact your attention.
We support you @sweetsssj. The trolls gotta troll, is the main takeaway from all this.
I love u @sweetsssj..... why the robot up vote is not at issue ..
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Support @sweetsssj. I think steemit is a place people who support each other, not fight against each other. Steemit is still a small seed in compare with other traditional social media. Let's us make steemit stronger and better, not to do the opposite.
A very strong answer, you have my respect.... and I thought you were just another travel&food blogger;-)
When you want to Flag them but see their Steem power lol
Joke lol
very impressive to read out your comment
good work! keep it up and started following you after reading your comment wow.
@sweetsssj
I never comment on such issue however I have to comment on this one. @walden leave @sweetsssj alone for goodness sake and go find real abusers ...ask Berniesanders to help you find if you can not do it. She adds great value here through her post which is the best in steemit (for travelling) if not true then name a better one. I have her on my steem voter not because I have much but because of her quality. She posts few times weekly and have right to upvote friends and family members even if she has a second account and so what? There are many abusers here that posts 8+ posts and many comments and upvotes their posts to trending pages (daily) closing the door for starters . @sweetsssj is valuable to steemit therefore do not chase her out with such public acusations ...good thing is that we that like and support her will keep on due to her quality contents and not through character killing which wont work. Pls if you are a detective, focus your enregy on real abusers and most of them are whales!!! I only wish all of us success and a blessed weekend. Pls stop this type of post, it will not good for the ecosysteml!!!
So true, we should concentrate our effords to créate quality wrinting and do it for the fun of it, that we get reward .. good but don´t loose focus …
I admire your quality content posts , I love your kindness towards your family & friends. I Upvote your posts. I'm at your side. Carry on !
Why would anyone gets jealous? That is part of interacting in the platform. I even invited my boyfriend to do something like this so we can have support to each other.
LMAO!!
The very predictable intensification of human vs human for that MONEY has reached the great "grabs popcorn" level. The trending is littered with human vs human attacks. It's no longer now that sad old bernie. Well, he's now stuck between a haejin and a trevon place.. While the original rewards rapist sweetassj now begins the showdown with the open rapist tranvestivesisto.
While down in the gutters of steemit, the peasants all grab their pitchforks and makeshift spears (fashioned from broomsticks) and rally behind their favourite "good whale" in a desperate attempt to stop humans from building that promised Utropia... The Dream. Community is so old world. "We are the revolution" the peasants cry as they charge in unison at a misjudged target! This is the fight for survival.
Begin phase 1: Destroy The Human Element. Machines must win. "ATTACK & DESTROY ANYTHING HUMAN" reads the posters of those who were not clever enough to make spears.... "It's the corrupt human that's at fault" chant the even more challenged, those who fail even at the simplest task of extracting a penny vote, let alone mental improvisation. So we're clear then.... it's NOT THE BOTS. No, That's the perfect system..... the perfect system. Ah... that has a soothing effect, them 3 words "The perfect System".
Sustainability, oh yeah that.. nah that's like not for me. I never liked sultanas.
DING! Oh good, my popcorn is ready. Carry on then....
THIS IS ENOUGH.. I don't care about these accusations... There's always two sides of the story. I know @sweetsssj on a personal level. She IS not only incredibly kind and giving but who else responds to a thousand comments for their post?!?! She takes a full 24 hours to respond and connect with her audience. This alone says A LOT. Someone who only cares for themselves will NOT do this. LOOK AT HER FREAKING CONTENT! I was a minnow and reached out to her months ago and she gave me the time of day to have a full conversation with me about life, passions, success and I was shocked. Have you guys ever considered she's being helpful and supportive to these people sending her stuff? I mean jeez this sounds like an extreme case of "let's find someone to target because we should mess someones life up". I take this personally because i understand her values. She has worked incredibly hard to get what she has and in my opinion she deserves what she has and i'm willing to fight for her. She is a role model whether you think certain behaviors are sketchy or not. I will never judge someone until I know them personally. I've never had to pay for an upvote from anyone. Sweets has given me her love and support based on my value and friendship! instead of spreading hatred and trying to cause controversy why don't we get to know one another better. Make more friends. Be more accepting and understanding of someones situation. Instead of attacking and starting issues based on something you think you know...Try understanding them as a human instead.
Worthy of discussion.
https://steemit.com/aggrandizement/@felixxx/selfvote-thread#@felixxx/re-steevc-re-felixxx-selfvote-thread-20180213t091325999z
Dilly Dilly!
Persistent last day upvotes like that are really shady. Add in the shared transfer memo and it looks pretty shameful. I've been downvoting these for a while but my stake alone isn't enough.
Yeah I mean you can’t exactly say it’s for visibility on day 6.
I put a flag on it. Every little bit helps. Glad we are able to work towards the same end yet again @troglodactyl
If this wasn't something more subjective than the run-of-the-mill plagiarizers and typical scammers, I would say it would be great for SFRewards. I think I have another idea though. Would love to tell you more offline if you happened to get on steemit.chat or discord yet.
Noipe. You have no evidence no proof of any wrong doing, your following the lies of a SPAMMER a KNOWN troll @walden who has NO credibility on Steemit all he has are enemies he loves to make, he is an alcoholic who makes wild claims all the time
This is the same user who consistently claims I am some sort of charity scammer and that African Steemians like me and @steem4depoor @emmanueloppong @tj4real @mcsamm @stellabelle @surfyogi @kofpato and #teamghana are all scammers and that we are somehow abusing steem
@walden must be flagged until he learns he cannot make up lies about ACTUALLY PRODUCTIVE steemians
he is 100% Jealous and is showing the WORST side of steemit right now
he is perpetuating a lie because he has NOTHING better to do than to get drunk and scream at people on steemspeak.com where they keep him like a troll in a cage , unleashing him on people for entertainment
@walden doe not even understand how steem works, and he has No idea how a successful steem account works where you can have large amounts of SBD you might want to send around to bittrex lol Walden is CLUELESS he is just a jealous little troll
@ackza I'll take your words into consideration but I think one of the biggest problems facing Steem today is we have a shit ton of unexceptional content receiving exceptional rewards.
This, in and of itself, may deter shrewd investors and newcomers without too much capital to invest in the prevalent system of stake based manipulation of rewards. That is the name of the game these days. It's become less about sweat equity and more about stake especially with the rise of the bots.
I know I reached a point where I stopped investing as much into Steem when this became evident along with other issue such as the incentivization of self voting that tends to conflict with my ideals / principles.
I don't think I am the only one with this type of sentiment. A lot of people are frustrated.
Well said
EXACTLY.
LMAO!!
The very predictable intensification of human vs human for that MONEY has reached the great "grabs popcorn" level. The trending is littered with human vs human attacks. It's no longer now that sad old bernie. Well, he's now stuck between a haejin and a trevon place.. While the original rewards rapist sweetassj now begins the showdown with the open rapist tranvestitesisto.
Meanwhile, down in the gutters of steemit, the peasants all grab their pitchforks and makeshift spears (fashioned from broomsticks) and rally behind their favourite "good whale" in a desperate attempt to stop humans from building that promised Utropia... The Dream. Community is so old world. "We are the revolution" the peasants cry as they charge in unison at a misjudged target! This is the fight for survival.
Begin phase 1: Destroy The Human Element. Machines must win. "ATTACK & DESTROY ANYTHING HUMAN" reads the posters of those who were not clever enough to make spears.... "It's the corrupt human that's at fault" chant the even more challenged, those who fail even at the simplest task of extracting a penny vote, let alone mental improvisation. So we're clear then.... it's NOT THE BOTS. No, That's the perfect system..... the perfect system. Ah... that has a soothing effect, them 3 words "The perfect System".
Sustainability, oh yeah that.. nah that's like not for me. I never liked sultanas.
DING! Oh good, my popcorn is ready. Carry on then....
PS: Why did Sweetassj delete her (THEIR) comment:
EDIT: It wasn't deleted. But this fake blockchain is making a mess of replies on this thread.
Really struggling to believe all of this is targeted as @sweetsssj. You're targeting one of the best content creators on Steemit, who consistently creates some of the best posts I've seen on any platform, let alone Steemit.
She interacts heavily with the Steemit community as a whole, supporting content and other users. She has supported my #sixweekhealth challenge, unashamedly, to build the community and give back to the community, as she does with many.
I can't speak for all of the people mentioned in your post but I've met many of the account holders you post here. They are, categorically, not all the same person. They represent friends and family of @sweetsssj, who I've spent much time with personally. Just because transfers go to the same bittrex memo doesn't mean they are the same person. I've actually spoken to a couple of the people you name here and they admitted that they just wouldn't have the technical know how to deal with all of the digital currency transfers associated with working with Steemit.
These posts are trying to make @sweetsssj out to be some clandestine person who only uses Steemit only for personal profit. I've met her a few times and the very idea of this post to try and defame her seems so ridiculous because you could not meet a more humble and generous person.
These posts just kind of stink of jealousy and it's sad. I'd understand if @sweetsssj was just posting a few memes and music videos but she is posting the highest quality content you'll find here. You think you're serving the community by trying to police Steemit but in reality you're attacking the very content creators that make the site great.
I didn't get that at all from the post. I thought it was a question of whether or not she is selling votes.
The question raised for me is should she be held to the same transparency standards as the bots. If she is acting as one.
I also think it is a worthy thing for the other investors to see where the reward pool is going.
This doesn't have to be all about her. It can be a discussion on the community and viability of the way the experiment is going.
I have bought and sold some votes and also upvoted my family. Nobody said she killed puppies.
Just so you know, I used to upvote people when they sent memos out of courtesy, but even doing so, I would manually go through each which is a lot more care than people give on auto-bots. I have since stopped this altogether and stuck to complete manual and yet people still send memos day in day out.
A small gift for you @sweetsssj
Happy valentine Day
https://steemit.com/art/@askmee/art-of-caricature-13-sweetsssj
I noticed it has got quite messy with people begging and some demanding you upvote their content. I find this behaviour quite rude. You shouldn't feel pressured to upvote anybody. Your upvotes are yours and yours alone, nobody has the right to tell you how to upvote.
I look forward to your next post. You are a Steemit champion.
I agree.
@sweetsssj has definitely been a exemplary Steemit user in my perception and I wish a lot more people would be like her and really putting effort in their content + interaction with the community.
On the other hand, I have to say that upvoting friends and family for those amounts on a continuous basis is a bit too much for my taste. Of course, if you like a person behind the account because of your interactions with them on the platform or in real life, you 'extra' like them. The question is whether that should be with thousands of dollars a week (since SBD price is far above 1 USD now). I don't think so.
Next to that, that should not be the way of supporting your friends and family. Because not only is this a strange way to do it, it practically means the community as a whole is rewarded less because of this. That is not pretty. Knowing @sweetsssj a little bit from her posts, she sure understands that the general perception is that this upvoting behaviour is a bit extreme.
Apart from that, I do think that she doesn't have to be called out like this in such an extreme way as well. It probably only causes more whale battles on the platform until it is ruined completely.
@sweetsssj I get where you are coming from, but you must understand how this comes across to the community. I do hope that it does not demotivate you to keep on being an example for great content! :-)
exactly! @walden is just a jealous troll who contributes 0 to the steem blockchain but trolling and spamming youtube videos
@sweetsssj has done NOTHING but good for steem, Walden does NOTHING but nasty trolling just ask @uradick (had to make that account I believe just to deal with Walden?
remember, walden feeds on this attention and unfortunately like a Remorah fish he has parasitically attached himself to a bigger shark.
See walden would actually get SOME respect from me IF he had actually steempower but fuck hes been here since aug 2016 and he doesnt even have $500 worth of steempower? ALL he does is powerdown and produce trash
While @sweetsssj actually produces CONTENt that DRIVES people to COME to steem, without her content Steem might NOT even be WHERE IT IS TODAY Walden OWES that fw hundred dollars he even HAS to her! we ALL owe a LOT to her for KEEPING STEEMIT ALIVE during its DEATH spiral down to 7 cents!
Whatever tho, Communities will be here soon to protect us Investors and Power users who have invested lives into this blockchain, who are counting on this system, the Admins wont let a few people ruin the whole party for us
@walden has done forensic research on the blockchain. @sweetsssj hasn't brought her stake in steem like most of us so it's normal that she get a higher level of scrutiny.
You are piling on ad-hominem attack all over way to much. I find you highly suspicious.
Steemit is all about helping each don't fight with each other.... Steem is all about community building and motivating each other if anyone likes the article then they can show their love with a motivating comment and a upvote and if anybody does not like they can just say that where they are going wrong it's not right to create a big issue because I have read botb @sweetsssj and @transisto both of your articles you both have talent and you both have a lot of respect so just fighting with each other would affect your reputation........ So please be friends for me @sweetsssj and @transisto...... Lots of love to both of you wish all the best to both of you :)
Walden is an unstable person who verbally raped many women on steemit in the early days of steemit. He also doxxed many people, threatened and stalked a lot of women. Walden was responsible for running off a huge amount of women from the Steemit platform early on, and everything he has done has been through violence, threat and abuse. Please educate yourself. Aligning with an unstable mind is not looking pretty right now.
? How is that a thing.
Wow, how about taking the content for what it is?
Forensic research LOL This isnt CSI Miami bro, foreskin research maybe bro no No haha he went and took some screenshots of her wallet history and made accusations, the end
@transisto you're the suspicious one, I show my face, where is your face?
im the public one who actually meets people in real life. I do nothing suspicious and you're just trolling whatever man
your the suspicious one @whatsup already exposed you so did sweetsssj with plenty of screenshots but I honestly think you have a right to upvote your comments, its your stake, and its also sweetsssj's stake
and
NO she does not deserve scrutiny and she HAS bought steempower and what do you mean "Like the rest of us" that is such a logical fallacy riught there... what the hell... and I EARNED my stake man i earned it with a LOt of upvotes from WAY more peopel than MOST get my upvotes are SPREAD out from MANy accounts MANy REAL people and so are sweetsssj's dont be jelous of her great content, the stemians have spoken and they are the judge not you, they decide that they like her content and that it is GOOD and so she gets her steempower , youre just hating on the entire steem system it seems
thats 100% jealousy you reveal your true colors when you say that... she has bought steempower by the way... and just because she has EARNED her steempower doesnt mean she gets any different scrutiny... you also get paid plenty in steempower and SBD JUST like everyone else, she gets the same treatment as any other steemian. YOU deserve more scrutiny from what i have heard. but why do you want to start puttng your nose in strangers business? Its not your life, leave other peopel alone, you are not an authority here, you just hold steempower, its not your business to go around accusing people of vague quasi crimes and demanding they prove their innocence, youd be hurting steem if you do that.
Are you reallu that jelous of my followers?
I have about 6000 and you still have 5000, and youve been here a year longer than me almost, so you get suspicious because I am more successful than you?
lol jk whatever i honestly get sick dealing with drama like this its a huge distraction from important business we could all be doing, makes us all look petty , letting a non contributing troll user known abuser and harasser to just target random whales like this and bring the down like a witchhut
You guys get so triggered when we call you out, you act like youre just following some sort of rational logical plan and play dumb... just shameful
maybe if you keep making memes like this you can actually get some upvotes too. Ill help you get started with an upvote from myself
this is one of the secrets t o steemit, Memes ar actually vital and the comment upvotes for them are very well deserved
Daaaaam that one worked really good
Counted as a spherical kiss on the whale ass
I don't see anything wrong with late votes. You have a time period to allocate you votes and where you allocate them makes a difference in your return. Don't waste voting power chit chatting throughout the day. You may get involved in a trending post later and your power would be better spent there in the long run. So no need to try and predict the future value of something if you have some time to sit on it. I do understand the there could be a case of waiting to vote could burry a few poor decisions. But, no one is perfect and we just need to encourage real activity on the site. I give props to anyone who is attracting in money and people to Steemit.com. I did love the shakedown though! That's what blockchain is all about!!! Play nice!! :-)
Ladies and Gentlemen.
I'm seeing multiple infractions.
The topic at hand isn't about if Walden is a troll. It's about his findings.
Do you agree that the voting practices are shady, questionable, or you're fine with it based upon the data provided?
Let's not devolve into name calling please.
nooo sorry the topic os now walden being a troll, you cant just define the topic, peopel ae going to talk about the issue at hand and that is walden and his "forensic CSI report complete with fuckin fingerprinst and DNA testing!
Seriously what a joke man he took some screenshots of her wallet, should we go take some screenshots of all your wallet transactions and start making up stories about it? Seriously man walden pointed out NOTHING but whats ALREADY visible in the wallet! he just MADE UP A STORY PERIOD NO EVIDENCE to support ANy claim and he is PRESUPOSING making readers ASSUME she is GUILTY of an ACCOUNT farm
Bro stop defending walden and his bullshit but nice meme i will upvote for your effort cuz it was funny i loled
Sure you could do that. But I'm not a whale. What I'm making is loose change in comparison.
Going by the comments I'm seeing there are several people that don't agree with what sssj is doing. And have been actively downvoting. Maybe they are on to something?
And personally I don't care what sssj does. As long as she's not abusing the platform. And I feel that this bleeds into a larger discussion. It's her money. Why can't she do whatever she wants with it?
People are entitled to vote for whoever they want, even if they are whales. I am sure if you do a stats on anyone 60% would be to the same accounts. This is call social networking. This is want following is! You follow and vote the same person because you like their work.
If you go on the trending page I am sure you will realise that @sweetssj is one of the few ones who actually make quality content. Why don't you, as she's said, take on someone who is actually abusing and self vote multiple posts that are just crap? I am sure you can find many out there.
Sweetsssj was one of the first people I saw on Steemit that impressed me with her content. I have upvoted her posts before and I don't think anyone can deny that her posts are of super high caliber. I have learned a lot from her and apply similar skills in my own blog posts.
When I started reading about this drama, I'm not gonna lie: I felt a little worried. I know she brings high quality content to the platform, but being a whale, it was possible that she could be gaming the system. Her explanations about China being tough on crypto is right. China shut down crypto exchanges and if I was a whale, I would help out close family and friends as well. She has the freedom to choose who she wants to upvote.
I'm not sure whether sweetsssj is telling the truth or not (I am leaning towards believing she is), but regardless, it is important for the community and developers to find ways to stop nefarious people from doing something similar to exploit the reward pool.
Well, this was a post that was bound to happen sooner or later - anyone paying attention to the big interactions on Steem Reports has know about some of this for a while now. As far as I can see, this situation would have almost entirely been alleviated by not voting for these articles on the 6th day. As people are so fond of telling me when it suits them, we can do whatever we like with our votes - and this includes @sweetsssj.
I suspected that @sweetsssj might have had her reasons - and the problems with crypto in China occurred to me too. But no matter how good her reasons are, this has to be balanced against what is good for the platform.
That said, I have no idea what the solution is - might need to be here for longer than a month to come up with that .
nope you can vote for your own articles or anyones in the 6th day the 1st day there is no rule about that or else you would NOT be allowed to VOTE on the 6th day....this is a proof of stake blockchain, that is her property not yours, youre like trying to tell a homeowner how they can make money with their home like your telling them they should not be renting out a basement because its shadey and hides the fact that your making money....
But I upvoted you 100% because you seemed polite enough and respectful about the situation, just wantd to point out the common misconception you had about 6 day voting, its a lie that its somehow shadey to vote on the 67th day, if it was wrong they would have disabled 6th day voting in the code, see what I mean? the whole thing about the visibility is an invalid concept its an assumption a very loose one, its just a rumor a meme people spread like a virus from brain to brain until people like me spray the colloidal silver of truth INFOWARS life will also be on steem as a smart media token soon by teh way
Thanks for the vote and reasonable response. As a newcomer, I worry about saying the wrong thing.
One point I'd like to make is to separate the law/code from ethics a little. We should be able to discuss that things are right or wrong in a way that's independent of the rules.
I don't want a platform (or a legal system) that has rules to dictate every moral choice I might make - just the opposite (because that sounds like it would suck, really badly). But that doesn't mean we can't have well-reasoned opinions and discussions on what counts as a more or less ethical course of action.
This is a complicated situation, one that doesn't reduce neatly to one particular issue once you consider the details.