I am really sorry to hear that, but the tone you set here is quite demanding, don't you think? I remember your situation, and when you finally sought out help it sadly was too late to do something.
There's no one to blame for that (//edit: okay, right. @dan is. definitely. But pointing fingers won't help much i'm afraid).
Why the 30 day limit is necessary was explained to you quite some times already. Consider the account lost, refusing to learn your lesson will keep you unhappy for years.
Actually, you are wrong. She sought out help well before. The reason you remember this case so well is that I tried to assist her in recovery only a few days after her last use of the password. She and I reached out to @dantheman, and you can see he made promises, but ignored her.
What @fairytalelife could explain better in her post is that she had the password all along. She (and I) tried the working, now proven, password many times in the recovery option, well within the 30 day window.
If someone from steemit had looked into this issue, she could have recovered her account easily.
Knowing that she had the correct password at hand, I would have tried it in the CLI with the
get_private_key_from_passwordcommand, but I assumed, erroneously, that the recovery field worked as advertised. But the recovery field did not work. I conclude now that it was broken.The developers at steemit should have looked into their own code and found that it was not working. I implored them to try to look at the code at that time but got nowhere. If I had known the recovery field was broken, I would have tried direct key recovery myself.
That's an issue between her and steemit then. They should definitely reimburse her if that's the case. Too bad the code wasn't open at that time.
But she held the community accountable with this post. We can't remove the 30 day limit, and she knows why. I wouldn't have commented like this if she asked for money nicely, but that's all anyone here can do for her.
I don't see where she holds the "community" accountable. Maybe I misread it. I believe she mentions @dantheman in her post. By "no one would help me", it is pretty clear she means no one at steemit.
In the last sentence
The community has always offered help. She decided to try her luck with STINC first. Anyone of us could've told her that's a mistake, but of course it seemed like the logical way for her. That's happened and can't be changed, no one in the community can help any more.
Also,
is a valid answer to her situation regarding the technical background, if she wants to hear it or not. Just keeping on pushing for a change that can't happen is not helping.
@phareism, by community, I meant those that could have helped - the ones who created the whole idea of the steemit community to begin with. I never asked for handouts.
Okay, that was misleading.
Still, the change you proposed isn't possible, and there's really nothing anyone could do. Except Steemit Inc. reimbursing when they admit it's their fault (and at least @dan has responsibility for letting you stand in the rain).
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@phareism, are you kidding? When I "finally" sought out help? As you can see I sought out help immediately. No one responded.
And for the record, if you were really sorry to hear it, perhaps you personally could have stepped in to help. Refusing to learn my lesson? That is exactly the attitude I have been shown this whole time. It's so much easier to blame me than accept this could have been something on Steemit's end.
I am not kidding.
There's not enough information here to judge when, where and why the fuckup happened.
Your post at that time received quite some attention, @roadscape's comment seemed very valuable but went unanswered by you. No idea who else you contacted at that time, obviously not the right persons to help you.
So while it may very well have been a fuckup on Steemit Inc.'s site, there's no proof for that yet.
Either way, the community is not at all responsible for what happened. As there's no way to fix it on a blockchain level, it would be up to a court to decide if the company running this site is liable or not.
You have been explained multiple times why there's a 30 day limit, and wrongly claim it wouldn't have existed before.
Again: No one can help you, except by supporting you directly. I thought about doing so after seeing @steemed mention your situation, but decided against after reading this.
What do I have to do with her? I helped her, that's all. I sincerely doubt that my response suddenly made you grow a cold heart. You just look for an excuse to be lazy. There is nothing wrong with laziness, just don't blame it on me.
Nooo :D On the contrary! You mentioning it on slack made me look into the issue, with the idea to help crowdfund her losses. Then I read this OP of hers.
Yes. And Dan's email went unanswered by me. Was Dan not the right person? He offered, after all, and never followed through. No one explained the 30 day limit. I'm not sure how you can say it was explained to me many times. This is the issue. My requests went ignored within those 30 days.
Those are the facts.
I'm so sorry that you built on @dan - an earlier visit to the chat would've pretty certainly got you back up. Or roadscape :/
So obviously, no, he was not the right person. Or maybe it would have helped to be more insistent. No use thinking about that now. There are a lot of things to blame him for, and this is pretty far up the list now. No matter if the fuckup was caused by them or not, one doesn't offer help and ignore the request then.
I'm not following, @phareism. I think you are missing the point entirely.
The 30 day limit was always a part of the password recovery.
To sell an account, you hand over the password and the new owner changes it. With the recovery function, the old owner could just change it back. So right now a 30 day escrow is used for those deals. That's a rather long time window already, in favour of those that need to recover from a hack.
If the limit were just removed now, any previously made account trade could be reverted by the old owner. So that's not possible.
I understand the reasons for security. I think there could be provisions added to this 30 day limit that would protect those who can prove ownership of accounts if they are not successful in recovery for circumstances beyond their control after the time frame ended. It is something worth considering. At the time I tried account recovery during those initial 30 days, no box appeared telling me I had a 30 day limit the way it does today. If it was written in Steemit's protocol, it was not clear to the new user trying to recover his or her account at the time.
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For the record, I communicated extensively on @fairytalelife's behalf with roadscape by private message. Saying she did not follow up with him is absolutely erroneous.
That's just what's visible of course.
Weird that he couldn't help back then either. So everyone just relied on the broken form? :/ Fuck.
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Feel free to do that, I'm on neither of those platforms ;-)
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