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RE: My Steemit Saga, part 2
@phareism, are you kidding? When I "finally" sought out help? As you can see I sought out help immediately. No one responded.
@phareism, are you kidding? When I "finally" sought out help? As you can see I sought out help immediately. No one responded.
And for the record, if you were really sorry to hear it, perhaps you personally could have stepped in to help. Refusing to learn my lesson? That is exactly the attitude I have been shown this whole time. It's so much easier to blame me than accept this could have been something on Steemit's end.
I am not kidding.
There's not enough information here to judge when, where and why the fuckup happened.
Your post at that time received quite some attention, @roadscape's comment seemed very valuable but went unanswered by you. No idea who else you contacted at that time, obviously not the right persons to help you.
So while it may very well have been a fuckup on Steemit Inc.'s site, there's no proof for that yet.
Either way, the community is not at all responsible for what happened. As there's no way to fix it on a blockchain level, it would be up to a court to decide if the company running this site is liable or not.
You have been explained multiple times why there's a 30 day limit, and wrongly claim it wouldn't have existed before.
Again: No one can help you, except by supporting you directly. I thought about doing so after seeing @steemed mention your situation, but decided against after reading this.
What do I have to do with her? I helped her, that's all. I sincerely doubt that my response suddenly made you grow a cold heart. You just look for an excuse to be lazy. There is nothing wrong with laziness, just don't blame it on me.
Nooo :D On the contrary! You mentioning it on slack made me look into the issue, with the idea to help crowdfund her losses. Then I read this OP of hers.
Yes. And Dan's email went unanswered by me. Was Dan not the right person? He offered, after all, and never followed through. No one explained the 30 day limit. I'm not sure how you can say it was explained to me many times. This is the issue. My requests went ignored within those 30 days.
Those are the facts.
I'm so sorry that you built on @dan - an earlier visit to the chat would've pretty certainly got you back up. Or roadscape :/
So obviously, no, he was not the right person. Or maybe it would have helped to be more insistent. No use thinking about that now. There are a lot of things to blame him for, and this is pretty far up the list now. No matter if the fuckup was caused by them or not, one doesn't offer help and ignore the request then.
I'm not following, @phareism. I think you are missing the point entirely.
The 30 day limit was always a part of the password recovery.
To sell an account, you hand over the password and the new owner changes it. With the recovery function, the old owner could just change it back. So right now a 30 day escrow is used for those deals. That's a rather long time window already, in favour of those that need to recover from a hack.
If the limit were just removed now, any previously made account trade could be reverted by the old owner. So that's not possible.
I understand the reasons for security. I think there could be provisions added to this 30 day limit that would protect those who can prove ownership of accounts if they are not successful in recovery for circumstances beyond their control after the time frame ended. It is something worth considering. At the time I tried account recovery during those initial 30 days, no box appeared telling me I had a 30 day limit the way it does today. If it was written in Steemit's protocol, it was not clear to the new user trying to recover his or her account at the time.
You are right. Thinking about it, something like re-enabling the recovery option after a year without outgoing transactions could be a fine solution. I'll try to start an "internal" discussion about it, let's see if it leads anywhere.
//edit: so that's a clear statement. steemit inc feels not responsible. And in some way it's understandable, regarding their workload and the complexity of a change like that. I don't know who else would be capable to modify the recovery feature, which could be a last straw. Good luck.
//edit2: Not so fast! @ned seems to like the idea I proposed. Still good luck! ;)
hey u know U made an account callled @steemitescrow just for stuff like this and wanted trusted whale to hand it over to! would u like it?
ii also gave an account ito someone who diidnt wana wait when we first had a waiting list, and i helped @cryptocoinupdate by handing him over the eys dierctly tho aand i deleted them and he changed password, should i have waited and gone thru escrow? and et me know i u would like the @steemitescrow account i am glad i registered it before someone bad might haave!
Hey, thanks for the offer, but that account name is not something I use.
It's a pretty specific, yet important, issue - steemit is just steemit.com, which is run by a U.S. company. I don't wanna affiliate with them by using an account named the same.
It was a great idea to register it, I'd recommend to just let it sit there and do nothing.
Handing over an account to a friend is fine, escrow is only needed if you buy one. The old owner has 30 days in which he can change the password back using the old.
For the record, I communicated extensively on @fairytalelife's behalf with roadscape by private message. Saying she did not follow up with him is absolutely erroneous.
That's just what's visible of course.
Weird that he couldn't help back then either. So everyone just relied on the broken form? :/ Fuck.