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RE: PLEASE JOIN ME IN FLAGGING A SHIT POST & REWARD POOL ABUSER
@crytographic Any idea what rule I would of broken to have caught a flag on this one from uradick.. or is it just someone being a dick and exercising their own agenda on a neutral post..
I've reviewed the history on Steemd. It seems to upvote quite a number of whales including Bernie. Not sure if it has something to do with some beef with Grumpy cat. I saw 100% downvotes against him and checkthisout. You caught a 37%. It'd be interesting to see if someone can put together a mapping of the steemit beefs. Obviously contentjunkie and grumpycat are one as are Haejin and Bernie. More drama than a soap opera, amirite?
You are right, I noticed the up voting patterns were suspect as well. Basically as stated above, just a dick exercising his own agenda irrespective of post quality.
Apparently an informative post about people farming the rewards pool hurt someones delicate sensibilities and they downvoted/flagged based on that, and not a legitimate reason.
Fairly typical for those that can't attack their actual target due to a lack of SP to go after lesser members that may have posted an opinion potentially pro someone they don't like.
Basically a sad move, reflective of self loathing, and self hatred by a person whom as a child was likely molested by the family dog.
Is what it is..
I do wish he would of had the testicular fortitude to comment or at least provide his reasoning.
Either way I'm happy for the exposure so its a win. I also suspect that it will eventually go positive at some point, if grumpy or someone counterstrikes the downvote with an upvote. I don't care if it gets the post up to .01.. as that will get rid of the need to click the extra tab to see the content. I do wish some more folks would upvote it though. 450 views and 43 upvotes, we can do better... :)... Thank you for your comment..
Alphabet has hired people full time to read and study steemit, Im done being genuine here. What is the point to better inform our future slavemasters?
https://steemit.com/google/@heimdallr/google-is-up-to-something
As for grump Im pretty sure his reasoning is similar to mine,
Im here because I need money,
Vote buying is marketing and everyone who is selling something needs marketing.
You get what you buy for votes and using it has shown me that more people are attracted to the dollar value of a post than anything that is being said inside.
Ive been doing it for two weeks now after 17 months of acting just like you suggest I can now say I may one day decades from now have a chance to actually compete here.
Steemit is nothing more than a marketing research tool now,
You sell a character that may or may not be you and none is the wiser,
This place is getting to me, Im done with interacting here unless necessary like everyone else who is here just for the money,
Unlike grumpy,
Im feeling hopeless.
#neutralpost :)
@uradick is FOLLOWING @grumpycat and @checkthisout, and downvoting what they are doing.
I would imagine that INSPIRING others to downvote unsuspecting and naive minnows would fit in a similar category.
I would hardly call your image "neutral"
Image is an image, to get attention to a shit post. Nothing more nothing less.. Regardless I did not post it alone and upvote myself 60SBD at the last minute...Basically its a downvote based on hurt feelings or disagreement over content, neither of which are proper reasons for down voting.. Its o.k. though I'll take the exposure and be happy for that... :)
Instead of trying to incite flag wars against minnows, take a look at what @upme is doing - https://steemit.com/steemit/@upme/upme-ban-list-update-1-9-2018.
A MUCH more proactive, positive, and (I'm sure) effective approach.
Grumpy is lining his pockets with $240 upvotes for his -$90 flags, and YOU are getting caught in the cross-fire
I'm perfectly content to be caught in the crossfire... It means I'm in the fight.. If you read my most recent article, this comment or comments like this were mentioned. I am not aligned to Grumpy, nor do I care what he is doing with his money. That is outside the scope of this article. I pointed out one policy of his that I agree with. That said I may disagree with other actions of his or have no comment due to lack of interest or knowledge .
I also fail to see the positive side to what upovote is doing. Its just a vote seller trying to go on a PR campaign and pull the wool over the eyes of the ignorant. The truth of the matter is that vote sellers in any form should be abolished from the system in entirety. No matter how you slice it, their very existence corrodes the purist ideals of the original Steemit that good content should be promoted based on Merit not on purchasing power.
Also let my current account which is a mere month and change old provide proof positive that an author can do just fine without purchasing a single vote. They just have to create good content, engage their audience and pick topics that sell to write about. If a person is unable to do that, then they should not be here, they should sink to the bottom and they should make way for content that will improve the site by bringing in more unique visitors through the serps. They should not be allowed to stay afloat with their mediocre offerings through vote purchasing schemes.
Also not inciting a flag war against a minnow. I was pointing out bad behavior that farms the rewards pool. Yes that one user may be negligible in the grand scheme of things, but 1000's of users engaged in that type of behavior could be quite detrimental to the overall health of the site.
Your own words apply to all, no? -
"Regardless of the politics involved he is using permissible site features in a way that he feels will benefit him, he is not breaking the rules and thus whatever the issue is, it is a site issue and not a user issue."
Grumpy's rule is not even a rule - it is simply a threat which bots can choose to enforce to avoid the unpleasantness.
You seem to want to back away from the title of this post - "please-join-me-in-flagging-a-shit-post-and-reward-pool-abuser".
Your words speak just as loudly as your other words.
I"m not backing away at all.. I stand behind what I said.. I'm just not part of some imaginary faction on the site. You seem to want to place me in a club or niche with grumpycat, which is not the case. I like the idea of crushing bots selling votes.. Other policies of his I may not agree with.. You need to remove your desire to place me and grumpycat as buddy buddy which is the take away I'm getting from your comments. I have no control over the man or his money. To that end I agree in many cases with what bernie does but I don't particularly like him or his application, I don't like the fact that he lines his pockets with his vote selling service or engages in flag wars, but on occasion he does some good.. In those instances I agree, others I don't.. No different here.. I am about the policy of killing rewards pool farming and vote bots in general.
No, I understand. I quoted you in wondering why it didn't apply to @pradeeprajora, who violated no rule of Steemit.
@sugeelson and his @upme bot have provided a list of other shit posters that you might train your sights on.
You seem somewhat aggressive boss and/or snarky. I agree @pradeeprajora technically violated no rule and used the sites permissible features in a way he felt benefited him. That said just as are some of grumpycats practices likely to be viewed as abusive, users with the power have flagged him. I likewise used permissible site features to downvote what I viewed as an over rewarded post. Actually the first line of permissible reasons to flag "rewards disputes". I looked at it objectively, a weighed the quality of the content and I made the decision that it was unworthy of the payout it was receiving based upon the fact that it was a stolen FB image and non original work. I then went more objective and perused his entire blog and noticed a pattern of him purchasing votes at the last minute to over reward stolen content and/or meaningless content directly before it paid. I don't have the horsepower to do anything to grumpy nor can I place myself in a position to relate to having that high of a stake in the site. As a professional trader, however, I would likely of done the same thing in regards to going to Bittex during that time to sell of prior to consolidation/correction in price so as I could purchase more at a discount. That is just me.. I also doubt that a person of that level of wealth needs to withdraw from here to bank their capital as they more than likely have a wide range of crypto assets and he would of never gotten to that level through placing all of his eggs in one basket. Maybe he is playing to market, maybe he is a greedy pig, maybe he is powering down to repower up at a higher percentage.. I don't know.. regardless the site needs to change to prevent vote selling and/or the heart of this article.