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RE: STEEM Contribution Score - From Concept to Model

in #steem6 years ago

bit of a large shout out - the following people engaged with the previous post on this subject and I thought you might be interested in seeing the developments so far, sorry if I missed anyone.

@bashadow, @glenalbrethsen, @gniksivart, @jusipassetti. @tarazkp, @enjar, @algo.coder, @mrday, @jestemkioskiem, @paparodin, @revisesociology, @felix.herrmann, @aneukpineung78, @tfq86, @fullcoverbetting, @just2random, @cryptkeeper17, @curatorcat, @mattclarke, @mountainjewel, @gillianpearce

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Hey, @paulag.

When you say this excel file is huge, you're right. I know I've never produced anything that's come close to taking 30 seconds to load. :) Good job just being able to do that!

All kidding aside, I like where this is headed. I think any form of engagement metric will need to measure both sides of the equation.

I guess for me, the question is, what's the ultimate goal with this. The idea behind the current reputation model was, via upvote you could discern those who have the best content. That seems to be the same idea behind UA, just involving followers but with the same idea that it will lead a person to the best content.

Is the idea of best content being expanded here to include comments or engagement, then? Is the idea to basically change the way we look at reputation or the best content? I don't know. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here.

I'm for a different way to evaluate user interaction. The current reputation system has long since failed. I'm not completely sold on UA, but it seems to be a step in the right direction. This intrigues me a lot because it seems to be based more on what I do, and then what I might be able to influence others to do. I like that idea so far the best.

"One of the primary goals of Steem’s reward system is to produce the best discussions on the internet"

That is taken from the whitepaper. it takes more than just a good post for the best discussions to happen, people need to engage. These metrics try to find the people on steemit that are making the best discussion happen by looking at certain metrics.

Very good. So, as you were saying to someone else, the contribution score would be something that would work in concert with, say, UA, and therefore give us all a better idea of who is potentially producing good content as well as producing the best discussions.

yes, they should be able to be used together and in isolation, it really depends on the needs. but the whole idea is as you say to give us a better idea of who is actively engaged in the best discussions

Thanks for the shout out!

I knew it. You can't sleep well before pushing some magics to a little bit higher level, Ma'am. And I know it won't end here. 😎

Thanks for the shoutout @paulag; appreciate the update! Can't actually look at the excel file here; my laptop is too puny to process it without locking up. However, from your description, I think you're onto something viable...

I have also been watching what the Steem UA guys have been doing, and I realize they are measuring something else that's less "activity specific" but it seems like there might be an opportunity for resource sharing and collaboration here.

"One of the primary goals of Steem’s reward system is to produce the best discussions on the internet"

It's slightly alarming to me just how FAR that is from current reality. Which, I suppose, just illustrates the Human condition; We have great ideals... and once money is involved, everything goes down the drain. So far, we have seen "Those with the most SP win" and "those who can buy the most votes win."

Anyway, I'm still holding some hope for that original ideal, and I'll be interested in seeing your ongoing efforts to quantify them!

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