RE: Haejin - Which Came First - The Predictions Or The Steem? Analysis/Comments Inspired By @berniesanders' Flag Attack on @haejin
There are hundreds of folks not acting as financial advisors yet sure sounding like ones. Why aren't they being flagged into the stone age for the time sensitive crap they are filling up the blockchain with? Who are the greedy ones? Haejin or those that would not even know him but for the transpatency of the blockchain and now project their hate because they feel they know, better, where the rewards should be going.
If he has the stake and is using software features available to him then what the hell?
Where our wagging fingers should be pointing is to those of the sacred 20 which will not push for software fixes to deal with all potential Haejins and not this one account. Even witnesses perform self voting! The flag wars are just pissing contests, in my opinion, that distract from the real issue.... software solutions!
I know, right? If i was being conspiratorial,
Id suggest this haijin flag war is a ruse to hide the real issues. Even so, that's the effect of it anyways.
Steemit shouldn't be this complicated to figure out, but it is.
Then he's being a faggot. He's using a software feature is asinine, is he free of the consequences of plagiarism simply because he uses copy paste? Is he free from the consequences of selfvoting especially almost exclusively so simply because he uses a mechanism designed to act as a rating system to rate himself?
Let's talk about the consequences: the community responds. Yeah, all those awful people,
who dare to use the Curation system to actually god forbid, express what they think with the very mechanism that has been specifically designed to do that, as @dan demonstrated with the other "anal"cyst ozcharts a year and a half ago when the same scenario happened and @dan downvoted the abuser.
This is kinda obvious for most people, but being an abuser and extracting value like an inconsiderate douchebag has consequences, and they are flags and uproar.
We are in agreement that the practise is not the desired one for either of us, @baah. My feeling is that if the software allows undesired behavior than the algoritm(s) needs adjustment. Flag one spammer down and another arises to take their place.
For example, and really only a random example, if the community does not think self voting is desired then restrict it in the software rather than downvoting someone about it. This change is expected in the next fork evidently.
In the same way it is my feeling that many undesired practices could be restricted via software mods.
Read the whitepaper, it talks that preventing abuse is not the point, and I agree.
Simply because real life allows people to kill others doesn't make any sense to punish everyone by making them wear full armor and weapons, if they want to or not. If someone think it wise to "use a software feature " to plagiarize work we don't argue that it was the software feature copy paste that is the problem, which is why I find it odd to argue that we agree on abuse, because you think the abuser is not at fault and you must have me mistaken with someone else because I don't think you understand what I said.
For example, taking out self voting penalizes everyone and doesn't solve anything as now people will make another account to vote on themselves with, in turn it's crystal clear AWFUL, INCONSIDERATE, advice because the abuse will be obfuscated and it adds more spam with countless people making alts to vote themselves. Instead we have downvoting. Which is so awful it's almost as bad as that other software feature.(sarcasmball)
It's not the intention of preventing abuse, which ends up Only penalizing those that don't abuse, in a mentality that if the software allows to post child pornography it's the software that's to blame because preventing it only requires a comity to approve. You know why we have downvoting?
Thanks for your detailed explanation, @baah. One might aurgue that allowing 10 posts daily instead of 11 is penalizing the inmocent.... yet your point is well taken and seems very valid to me.
Excellent comment. This has been pretty much what I've been preaching too. Most of the Reward pool Justice Warriors aren't willing to talk or even think about real protocol changes and opt for completely inefficient and at times completely ineffective solutions. I'm glad that @flagawhale actually had a good conversation with me. You can read the whole thing here:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@everittdmickey/re-lexiconical-flagging-bot-users-arbitrarily-is-like-arresting-those-paying-protection-money-to-the-mob-20180409t223917583z
Glad to see someone thinking about more long term and fair to all solutions. If @haejin was taken down, another would take its place. If whale abuse get noticed, dolphins may still fly under the radar. 100% upvoted for asking for software solutions above all else.
There's a huge thing about it on @pharesim's recent post about @jerrybanfield and Witness voting. You'll see @sircork and @themarkymark pointing out valid points that seem to be brushed aside there.
What @berniesanders (props to him by the way) has done is a work-around and easing the symptoms of an extremely flawed system.
An interesting read. Gave @pharesim @boatymcboatface's vote and will be rethinking my other sacred 20 votes. Thanks for sharing.