RE: 50 STEEM bounty for explaing basic Steem stuff to @the-resistance.
Maybe if initial messaging and approach was less aggressive there would be less drama and goals would be reached? Not sure. But here is the new revised message.
Hey Steemians! I am a big investor in Steem. I think actions by few bid-bot users have been holding the price of Steem down and hurting my stakes. There are some users who are buying votes on the 6th day for super low-quality posts with an intention of taking advantage of this awesome community. The system is set up as last 12 hours are reserved for only downvotes. I don't think that is enough time for the community to react and give a fair evaluation of posts.
Reasonable timeframe to evaluate posts should be 3.5 days. So please, bid-bot owners and operators, implement this change and don't allow the sale of votes past 3.5 days. If you have questions regarding this matter, feel free to ping me on discord or steem.chat.
In case we can't reach an agreement, I will be forced to use my stakes to downvote customers of certain bid-bots that have no interest in protecting my investment in hopes to discourage them from using non-cooperating bid-bots. I think this is the most efficient and economical way to make my point that I am serious about protecting my stakes.
We are all investors here. I am sure we can reach an agreement that will protect all of our stakes, businesses, and make Steem price rise to the Moon.
P.S. Once we all are in agreement and implement these changes I would like to use my stakes to support new and established authors and, various projects on the platform.
Love,
GrumpyCat
But instead he decides to be a self imposed bully vigilante who is driving his own stake to the floor with his moronic counterproductive behavior, but I bet he feels like a really big man, in the middle of his poor, lonely life.
yeah, all the people supporting him here don't know that just this week, chumpyass flagged a widow, a zero day newbie in introduce yourself, and stole from a charity that feeds orphans and disadvantaged people around the world.
But all hail to the playground bully asshole chumpycat with the unimaginative stolen trademark for a name. Pathetic little piece of feces that he is.
about the widow - How would he know that she is a widow? For him she is a bidbot user.
Authentic zero day newbies do not use bidbots, and there is an even smaller chance for them to use bidbots that he prohibits.
On your charity post - You used the charity account to flag him.
That's exactly the point. Grumpycat doesn't know who he was downvoting. Maybe to some, bidding to bots is just for promoting their posts, but for most minnows, our main purpose is to profit because we need it personally. Not everyone knows his rules. He might have posted about his own rules many times, but not all of us are his followers. Most people here dont know. It would be acceptable if he would give a warning first, than downvoting someone right away. That's harsh and unfair.
Agree with all that you wrote.
I oppose grumpycat's rules.
Spammers should be punished in the most extreme measures possible, but bidbots should not be limited to less than 6 days.
Even if I thought they should be limited, I would not have acted in a similar way, and would not have downvoted good posts just to apply indirect pressure on bidbot owners while victimizing good content creators.
If anything he wastes VP that could be used to fight scammers and spammers.
This rule is not any better than a prohibition of self votes.
I do not agree with him, I just had answers for sircork.
Regarding a warning first, my remark for you is it will require grumpycat to implement a database for warned users.
Doable, but it costs.
If he can make a 'Congratulations, you're a winner!' comment, then downvote, he can simply change it to a 'Warning'. But if a person is close-minded, no matter how understandable a proposal is, he can't accept it.😞
This doesn't address the labor problem. Blacklists/warnings take labor.
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How are you profiting from bid bots? Please explain your math to me, because I've tried to change 1s into 2s and it still isn't profitable at all
I bid in off-peak hours. Dawn here in Saudi. I patiently wait for the right timing. I don't profit much, because mostly I only bid cents. But I have tried my highest bid to 4steem. There are times I get less.. So it is still a gamble. The latest I bid was 2sbd and the bot gave me $3.98, minus the curation reward. It's just so little profit, but every single cent counts for me these days so I still call it a profit.
okay so you're getting 1.25 ish sbd back and less than 1 sp? seems like a huge gamble for zero profit. since most of the time you're losing, right?
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Exactly!I just wrote a very time consuming post and included an image that took me hours to produce! Very harsh and unfair, considering I did not send hundreds of SBD - only my meagre 2,5 SBD to help promote my post the way I SAW FIT!
What hurts me more is even though we are angry and been telling him what we feel, we won't win over a person who intends to be deaf and blind with all our protests.
Indeed I did, because I used all my accounts to flag him, but it was only a matter of "theater" given that he and his sock-puppets have around 300K in their combined wallets, not too many users can touch that in terms of damaging him. It was simply a protest flag. Since he has been robbing the charity posts of many users raising funds for @YouAreHOPE
Regardless of what I did. Any of you supporting the idea of self-elected bullies on this platform, and abiding by his arbitrary, hypocritical rules, don't really have to much going on in the way of critical thinking skills, in my humble opinion.
"Authentic zero day newbies do not use bidbots, and there is an even smaller chance for them to use bidbots that he prohibits."
Gotta agree with this observation. Sock-puppet, like Movietrailers is of ContentJunkie.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@tarazkp/a-look-at-transparency-and-hiding-beneath-the-surface
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It's possible. There might be newbies who were already taught by those who invited them here to use bidbots. So maybe after making their first post, a friend sponsored a bot to boost his post or donated a few sbd to him to try bidding. That's just my opinion.😉
True, but highly unlikely.
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There have been cases where others have promoted the post, without the original authors knowledge, as they have seen it as a worthwhile project to support.
I'm not against the grumpycats system, but in these cases clearly it isn't perfect.
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I am new, so I do not fully understand the history of how bit-bots managed to become such a detriment to the community, but your comments are on target - individual steemians also have the power to downvote posts or rule-abusers until a better compromise is reached. @fcpway
lol that is not what the revised message said.
Lol.
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@geekgirl, I love this.