WTF IS THIS? About 2450 USD down the drain ...
This is a good example to scare off new People. Just let subscribe my son in here. One of the first things he reads is this post ...
he's calling attention to how the reward pool isn't always used well because people don't flag. it's ironic because one of the reasons people don't flag is because of revenge flagging in part by none other than the author of this post. He is lamenting against the very culture he has helped create.
At least he's exposing weaknesses in the system by demonstrating how one high-SP account can make Steemit worse for others.
But yeah, it does seem idiotic to create something and then complain about it. Maybe it's just high-level trolling and attention seeking.
The paradox/irony is how much Bernie does support useful things like cheetahbot. I really want to believe he genuinely cares about this platform even when his words and actions demonstrate otherwise.
Cheetah is another way to centralize authority and make people feel like keeping the site "clean" isn't their job. If everyone used their flags it wouldn't be so scary, but instead, they can upvote cheetah and think they are done.
Many people have earned a lot of money playing the clean up game. Maybe they should use that stake to help with abuse. Who knows.
By the way, I think cheetah is a classy organization with good people, but the concept that someone else will keep the site clean is part of the reason we came this far with very little flagging.
That's a good point, and I agree on some level. If people don't take individual, personal responsibility to protect what they value, then it creates more centralization and single points of failure.
I also think human involvement isn't always required. I love cheetahbot because it does things better than humans can. It's just the first step. The next step is steamcleaners and individuals using their downvotes as needed, using cheetahbot as a way to find things which need their attention. We don't all have to run our own cheetahbot software. That would be inefficient and the comments would start to look like spam and be worse than the problem. Economies of scale are a real thing we should appreciate as we seek decentralization.
I agree though, we each have to take personal responsibility if we have an expectation for some particular outcome.
The funny thing is, this whole post is now hidden by default which hides the scammy comments even further. Many of them are still paying out. The problem being highlighted here is how easy it is for people to abuse the system and how difficult it is to get enough people to care.
Like I said, it's a fascinating experiment. Your performance art performance on Steem is always entertaining. Maybe not always good for the platform, but it is entertaining. That said, at other times your vigilante flagging is amazing for this place. We're all just people doing some combination of the best for ourselves and this platform.
I said that exact thing very respectfully on the screaming Bernie post and got seriously downvoted. I actually decided to stay waaaayy out of all of this drama but wanted you to know that other people see that, they just end up scared to say anything because “minnow”. I hope it gets worked out before this just becomes a negative place to be. (Please don’t downvote me for sharing a feeling)
WTF IS THIS? About 2450 USD down the drain ...
This is a good example to scare off new People. Just let subscribe my son in here. One of the first things he reads is this post ...
he's calling attention to how the reward pool isn't always used well because people don't flag. it's ironic because one of the reasons people don't flag is because of revenge flagging in part by none other than the author of this post. He is lamenting against the very culture he has helped create.
At least he's exposing weaknesses in the system by demonstrating how one high-SP account can make Steemit worse for others.
But yeah, it does seem idiotic to create something and then complain about it. Maybe it's just high-level trolling and attention seeking.
The paradox/irony is how much Bernie does support useful things like cheetahbot. I really want to believe he genuinely cares about this platform even when his words and actions demonstrate otherwise.
Cheetah is another way to centralize authority and make people feel like keeping the site "clean" isn't their job. If everyone used their flags it wouldn't be so scary, but instead, they can upvote cheetah and think they are done.
Many people have earned a lot of money playing the clean up game. Maybe they should use that stake to help with abuse. Who knows.
By the way, I think cheetah is a classy organization with good people, but the concept that someone else will keep the site clean is part of the reason we came this far with very little flagging.
That's a good point, and I agree on some level. If people don't take individual, personal responsibility to protect what they value, then it creates more centralization and single points of failure.
I also think human involvement isn't always required. I love cheetahbot because it does things better than humans can. It's just the first step. The next step is steamcleaners and individuals using their downvotes as needed, using cheetahbot as a way to find things which need their attention. We don't all have to run our own cheetahbot software. That would be inefficient and the comments would start to look like spam and be worse than the problem. Economies of scale are a real thing we should appreciate as we seek decentralization.
I agree though, we each have to take personal responsibility if we have an expectation for some particular outcome.
The funny thing is, this whole post is now hidden by default which hides the scammy comments even further. Many of them are still paying out. The problem being highlighted here is how easy it is for people to abuse the system and how difficult it is to get enough people to care.
You are right, I was lumping Cheetah and the rest of those services together.
I do agree they helped with some issues and created others. You got my point about personal responsibility which is where i was headed.
This whole thing is between sad and funny.
Ironic, isn't it?
People don't flag because they're pussies. It's not my fault they can't buy more Steem and power up...
Like I said, it's a fascinating experiment. Your performance art performance on Steem is always entertaining. Maybe not always good for the platform, but it is entertaining. That said, at other times your vigilante flagging is amazing for this place. We're all just people doing some combination of the best for ourselves and this platform.
Well said. :)
"We're all just people doing some combination of the best for ourselves..."
Wow, I just sent you a message about exactly that!
Doing good for ourselves isn't a bad thing. Doing good for ourselves at the expense of everyone else is.
I said that exact thing very respectfully on the screaming Bernie post and got seriously downvoted. I actually decided to stay waaaayy out of all of this drama but wanted you to know that other people see that, they just end up scared to say anything because “minnow”. I hope it gets worked out before this just becomes a negative place to be. (Please don’t downvote me for sharing a feeling)
More to come. Much, much more.