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RE: The Lie of Jesus Christ and how his real name was Yeshua HaMashiach

in #philosophy • 8 years ago (edited)

From John 20:24-29

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.” So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.” And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

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     8 years ago 
    • 1 Corinthians 15:28 - When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
    • John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
    • John 5:30 - "I can do nothing alone. I judge only the way I am told. And my judgment is right, because I am not trying to please myself. I want only to please the one who sent me."
    • John 5:43 - "I have come from my Father and speak for Him, but you don’t accept me. But when other people come speaking only for themselves, you accept them."
    • John 1:33-34 - Then John said this for everyone to hear: “I also did not know who the Messiah was. But the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘You will see the Spirit come down and rest on a man. He is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen this happen. I saw the Spirit come down from heaven like a dove and rest on this man. So this is what I tell people: ‘He is the Son of God.’”
    • John 6:38 - I came down from heaven to do what God wants, not what I want.
    • John 8:28 - So he said to them, “You will lift up the Son of Man. Then you will know that I Am. You will know that whatever I do is not by my own authority. You will know that I say only what the Father has taught me.
    • John 8:42 - Jesus said to them, “If God were really your Father, you would love me. I came from God, and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority. God sent me.
    • John 8:54 - Jesus answered, “If I give honor to myself, that honor is worth nothing. The one who gives me honor is my Father. And you say that he is your God.
    • John 10:34 - Jesus answered, “It is written in your law that God said, ‘I said you are gods.’
    • John 11:27 - Martha answered, “Yes, Lord. I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God. You are the one who was coming to the world.”
    • John 11:41-42 - So they moved the stone away from the entrance. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you heard me. I know that you always hear me. But I said these things because of the people here around me. I want them to believe that you sent me.”
    • John 12:49-50 - That is because what I taught was not from myself. The Father who sent me told me what to say and what to teach. And I know that whatever he says to do will bring eternal life. So the things I say are exactly what the Father told me to say.”
    • John 15:1 - Jesus said, “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
    • Matthew 8:29 - They came to Jesus and shouted, “What do you want with us, Son of God? Did you come here to punish us before the right time?”
    • Matthew 24:36 - “No one knows when that day or time will be. The Son and the angels in heaven don’t know when it will be. Only the Father knows.
    • Mark 1:11 - A voice came from heaven and said, “You are my Son, the one I love. I am very pleased with you.”
    • Mark 1:24 - “Jesus of Nazareth! What do you want with us? Did you come to destroy us? I know who you are—God’s Holy One!”
    • Mark 3:11 - Some people had evil spirits inside them. When the evil spirits saw Jesus, they bowed before him and shouted, “You are the Son of God!”
    • Mark 5:7-8 - As Jesus was saying, “You evil spirit, come out of this man,” the man shouted loudly, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you in God’s name not to punish me!”

    I do have a bunch of other New Testament references that illustrate what I'm saying, and I don't think I have a compiled list of all the things I've found anywhere. Some of them need a bit of explaining Jewish culture at the time to grasp so I'll skip them for now. I also have a bunch of Old Testament references that illustrate why it doesn't make sense that the G-d of the Jews would actually become a man.

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       8 years ago (edited)

      I don't disagree with any of those verses (obviously). The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One God in three persons.

      John 14:8-10

      Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, carrying out His work.

      And just before Jesus ascended to heaven, he gave his disciples this Great Commission: (Matthew 28:16-20)

      Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
      And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name [singular] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

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         8 years ago 

        hmm. I have read that free masons and other esoteric orders have studied the old testament as mysticism.....I do not believe everything written in the bible is completely matter of fact..but rather metaphors and things of this like.

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           8 years ago 

          The best thing to do is throw out all such esoteric orders and just master the original inspired Scriptures.

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           8 years ago 

          yes, jesus proved to him that he was god.....as everything is god. Those who deny the truth of this deny the truth of god. it is simple.

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             8 years ago 

            That would be pantheism. There is a strong distinction between the Creator and His creation. Heaven and earth will pass away. God won't.

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