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RE: The Three Types of You: Body, Consciousness, and Ego

in #philosophy7 years ago (edited)

Racional thoughts @krnel.

For me Ego is the part of our personality which is "I" and the conciousness is that what is aware of "I".
Ego is like a mechanism which was created to protect us in our physical journey.
Although the main role of it is to protect us, on the other hand it often restricts the potential of conciousness. Ego is very delicate structure which always defends itself from possibilities that someone might be better than us. Because if it let such a possibility then it means that there might be a bunch of others who are better than us - thus we are in constant danger or just worry about that we aren’t good enough. Eg. we think that we are good at dancing and then there’s a guy who is a lot better - our ego screams and motivates us to action “show him, who’s the best!” or the exact opposite “ok just quit and save the rest of your dignity”. That’s why some people with “big” ego are always showing off - they just need the prove to themselves that they’re the best. There are also people that have that fear of failure - their ego wants to protect them from harm.
Healthy Ego is there to protect us or our property from those who want to harm us in any way. Besides I really don't get it why New Age wants to kill ego and says it's the matter of all evil.
It’s good to have ego. That’s why:
If we wouldn’t have ego we wouldn’t want anything.
If we wouldn't have ego we would just give up before we could archive anything.
If we wouldn't have ego we would be slaves to those who have it (because we wouldn't be able to resist their will).
So it’s much better to “starve” ego from time to time so we wouldn’t be egoistic than kill it :)

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Personally I believe the Ego is simply that which we do not agree with or like about ourselves and that we (seemingly) have little or no control over. If there is an action you do, or words you say to someone that you feel you don't like or don't agree with or have little control over I call this the Ego. Sometimes you will say something or do something and later regret it but when you regret it you cannot explain why you said/did it and why you felt you had little control over it. In my opinion, that is the Ego. The other part of us that we could have control over if only we choose to work hard in refining our spirit. It is the other part of you that might say harmful things, act, or behave in ways that may be counter productive and cause discomfort to others but you seem to have little control over. Even in thought, sometimes you might think wrongly of someone or judge them and this may be the root of the untamed Ego. The actions that are made by your ego reflect how you think, if you change the way you think you will likely have success in refining yourself. My best advice from my own experience is to simply not judge others in your mind even the good judgments. You don't have to stop judging completely but if you try this for at least 4 months I assure you, you will realize many things.
The English language is very judgmental in nature and it is also very authoritarian. If we think in the English language we will often find ourselves labeling others: This person is "" , that person is "" but labeling people often implies that they are not subject to change even though everything is in fact subject to change. By judging what a person "is" we forget that everything is temporal and that we have the power to change things. In your case you think to yourself "this person is better." Today a person may be "better" tomorrow it may be another person or you or anyone. Remember that everything is temporal and what matters most is your action and the footprint you leave for this world. The only way "being better" is spiritually a good thing, is if by being better you will have more to offer and more to contribute to the rest of society and that your knowledge is passed down, otherwise what is the point? If one is greedy, then they will try to hold that knowledge and take it with them to their tomb without ever sharing it and so how greedy one is, is an ultimate manifestation of how spiritually refined we are or how egotistical we are. If you are better at saving lives, people will likely seek you before seeking others. If one embraces the responsibility that comes with "being better" then it serve the spirit. If one is greedy and wishes only to remain better for the sake of pride, or as we can observe our current global situation for the sake of keeping the higher position to make more money, then one is serving the ego. Ultimately being better at something that has practical use is a good thing but should come with greater responsibility. Embracing greater responsibility is good for the spirit and can lead to defeating the ego. So it all boils down to embracing responsibility, sharing, and contributing (selfless / spirit) vs hoarding knowledge, being greedy, and being irresponsible (selfish / ego). This is at least this is my own point of view

Labeling is certainly the job of ego and it's good to prevent it from doing it because we can get egoistic - egoism and ego is not the same thing! Egoism is when somebody only wants to take and don't want to give anything at all. But ego doesn't has to be egoistic.
As I said without ego you wouldn't want to be better because you wouldn't want anything at all. You wouldn't want to act because you would be just so happy about how it is that you wouldn't want to change anything. Only because we want or we disagree on how the thing are we can actually change ourselves and become better. Of course the point isn't to become better than somebody else but being better than yourself from the past so you'll have more to offer to the others - as you said.
Without ego you wouldn't be able to potect anyone because you would feel too weak to do so. You would say to yourself "how poor me can do anything, I'm so powerless and weak...". In case like this ego would be the first to react "come on! move your ass and do something with that!".
Spiritual growth is mostly about serving others. When we do we can learn a lot more than just following our own needs which are mostly egoistic. That's why I said to starve ego. By starving it I meant feed it carefully so that you'll be self confident but you wouldn't have to prove anything to anyone. And I totally agree with the knowledge part - what is the sense of gathering it and then taking it with you to the tomb? It's mostly egoistic because you don't want to share. You become egoistic when don't control ego which says "I want it, I want that". And it's the voice of ego which says "dont's share with him because he might become better the you and your the one who want to be the best". Because of ego we want to rival but because of it we want to archive as well. So when you starve your ego properly you'll be like - I want to archive but in cooperation for the sake of me/ someone particular/ whole society.

I love the 2nd half of your posting, and you have the right mindset to become an earth custodian... drop by my website earthcustodians.net, really you wont regret it. Welcome aboard!

Yes, you can't kill ego, ego is "I", look up the etymology. It's self. Ego, self, personality, identity are all shaped from environment conditioning. The self can be corrupted, bad, or function better, like negative ego and positive ego. Without an ego-I-self construct, you wouldn't be a you, you would be a nothingness of pure consciousness awareness lol. Dissociating with our identity can achieve states of blank identification with a personal individual I-ness, and instead a universal impersonal I-ness as being one with everything. The ego-I-self is always there. Thinking you can kill yourself by the ego-death killing is silly. I view it differently, but thank for the feedback.

Made a little spelling out there I meant "than" not "then" :D What a significant diffrence in the whole context...

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