Is She A Gold Digger? (A Very Complex Question)
In this case study I want to dive into the question of whether a woman is a gold digger or not. This is more from a male perspective and how I test women to gauge their response. I recently saw something where someone said, "just because a woman wants to be with a man who is financially secure doesn't mean she is a gold digger."
On a lot of levels I would agree with that statement. If a woman is trying to mainly make sure that a guy has at least some level of ambition and isn't living in his parent's basement in a porn and energy drink fueled masturbation binge on a daily basis it makes sense. She essentially doesn't want to have the burden of taking care of you her whole working career.
The question is when does the mindset shift over to you taking care of her your entire working career?
She Wants To Make Sure You Aren't Shady
Some of the questioning is going to go down the line of your career path from the simple fact that she wants to make sure you aren't some shady drug dealer tied in with the Mexican drug cartels. I have tested different responses on a lot of different girls. It is funny to see their reactions. Sometimes it isn't in person and sometimes it is.
- I Sell Stuff Online........SHADY
- I Make Money Online.......SHADY
- I'm A Paid Blogger......They want to see the blog and then they read a post like this..... GAME OVER
- I have a business selling products online and I also produce online content I get paid for. .....Unclear Career Path..... Likely SHADY
- I Live The Dream........SHADY
- IT Consultant......... Acceptable Response
In some respects I understand the deposition these women dish out about this. It is when the questioning then dives into material possessions that you need to be concerned.
Cars and Living Situation
In general people don't like to take a step down. Depending on what your situation was when you grew up you either want to maintain that existence or step into a nicer existence. That is understandable. That being said the lines can be very blurred these days.
The majority of people in the United States and in other countries are walking balls of debt. Mortgages, car loans, student debt, credit card debt....etc.
So someone could be broke as a joke on a very high level driving a leased Maseratti, $80,000 in student loan debt, $120,000 in credit card debt, and upside down on a luxury condo.
On the other hand someone else could be driving a 10 year old vehicle they don't owe anything on and not have any other debt but are living modestly.
So from a woman's perspective who is going to look more "fun" or more "secure?" Probably the guy driving the Maseratti. He looks like he is ball'n out of control! It can be very confusing for sure.
My Gold Digger Test
Here are some general things I might bring up in conversation to gauge their reaction. Some of this doesn't necessarily mean they are a gold digger or not but can point toward a girl being high maintenance or not on the same page with the way I act.
- I will mention that before I go out the the bars I do some "unauthorized tailgating" out of the back of my trunk after I park. If she smiles and says something like "What other way is there?" Then I know it's all good. If she looks at me weird and acts like she has never heard of such a thing....RED FLAG
- I will say how last Halloween I snuck a drink into the bar inside my costume and say how I had to do something about all the weak drinks that were being served. Once again if she laughs it is good. If she looks at me like I'm a cheap skate then ......RED FLAG
- I will say how when I went on certain trips I ended up couch surfing and camping to save money. If she is intrigued by this or thinks it sounds cool then I'm good. If she thinks it is weird.... RED FLAG
- I park in a place where it will be unlikely they are going to see what I drive. You want to keep that out of the equation whether you are driving a rusted out beater or a exotic supercar.
- I look for an attempt to pay by the girl. If she doesn't even offer to pay for a portion of it is a VERY BIG RED FLAG. Oftentimes I will end up paying anyways even if they offer. It depends on the situation.
- If you have an Android phone and she makes fun of you because it isn't an iPhone. Either get up and leave right then or get her friends phone number. (I got a girls friend's number before in that situation and started hanging out with her. It was savage!)
I have even had girls essentially set up the date with me asking if I want to get dinner sometime....etc Just to turn around and expect for me to pay for everything. That is a clear sign you don't want to be hanging around with her. Otherwise you are just going to be getting tooled out hard. The thing is some women make a living out of this. Think how much some of these women save by going on 3 or 4 dates a week and getting meals paid for. It would be insane. They can practically double their income by being a leech.
The Lines Are Blurry
It is very hard to tell if a woman is a gold digger or not.
These are almost for sure signs where you need to just run.
- She expects you to pay for everything all the time
- If you have known her less then a couple months and she wants you to buy purses, jewelry, shoes...etc.... Go ahead and buy yourself some new running shoes so you can run away.
- If she always wants to stay in luxury hotels
- If she has no ambition for learning, a career, or a business. Chances are she is looking for a free ride.
Story Time Steemians (Recent Experience)
This was about a month ago I matched with a resident doctor who lives 3 miles from me. There is a sports bar in between us which would be the most convenient since her schedule was really hectic. She started getting worried about the location through text. That it might be "dangerous." I eased her fears about it and said it was kind of a middle of the road type of place.
She meets me there and she wanted wine. She complained about the selection of wine but what could she expect. It was a sports bar. We were talking about what kind of doctor she was and all that. She was pretty stressed out because as a doctor you pretty much give up your 20's and you have a very hard schedule especially when you are in your residency. Everytime a new group of people walked into the bar she would laugh and shake her head. She basically was judging everyone who walked through the door and was acting like everyone was trashy. I just brushed it off and said, they are harmless.
Everything was cool other than that and the conversation was pretty good. She actually offered to pay for her drink which got her past the first part of the gold digger test. I ultimately ended up paying for it. She had to get up early the next morning so we were only there for about an hour and half. We walk out to the parking lot and directly outside the bar there was a mid 90's pick up truck that was someone beat up. She asked if that was my truck. I looked it and said, "No, but I probably should have a pickup truck" and told a story of how I drove my car up the back side of Mt. Lemmon which is a gravel road and is washed out in places. It isn't something you would expect to see a car on.
We walked a little further into the parking lot and were talking some more and there was a late 90's Mustang that had the clear coat burnt off of it. That is common to see out here in Arizona if a car isn't kept in a garage. She again asked, "Is that your car?" I looked at it and said, "No but that is unfortunate that the clear coat got scorched like that." And then I said something to the effect that the sun is super harsh out here and it just shows you what it could do to a person's skin.
She then says, "Well where is your car?" I pointed over in the general direction of it but there were like 20 cars parked in that direction. The point is she was super worried about what kind of car I drive. I could really tell it bugged her not to know what kind of car I drive when it really shouldn't matter at that point. I had known her less than two hours at that point. It ultimately becomes a RED FLAG when there is that big of a deal made of it.
Do you guys feel like you have ran across a lot of gold diggers? If so what did they do for you to determine they are a gold digger?
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Hahahha, Funny! This problem seems to exist in all parts of the world!
Yes, but we had Berlusconi as prime minister. Nobody outside him could believe in that relation.
Hahahha, cute couple. LOL
Is this one more believable? Heheheh
Yeah many similarities :D
wohoo, I am not a gold digger than.. my boyfriend doesn't have a car :D
thanks for the post @brianphobos! :)
Hahah, Not a Gold digger: CONFIRMED !!!
This is a super-hard question.
As in, most women's first desire would be to look at a man's 1040 before deciding whether to go out for drinks.
Hypergamy is a very strong drive in women. They are looking to marry up. Marrying at their level... she will be disappointed with the marriage from the word "I do".
So, I woman is looking to marry up; always.
But what they consider up differs from woman to woman.
Some like the rugged DIY types. They see this as house maintenance for life.
Some like the salary-man
Some like all the bling.
What gets me most is that women have a very poor understanding of money.
Some of the wealthiest people drive ten year old pickup trucks. And that is usually how they became wealthy. But, women will look at a leased (or even rented) car and her interest level is completely based on that.
Women love big chunks of carbon. Even though the resell value of such is often pitiful. 100-1000% mark up. Worse, women will complain if you actually try to get them a ring of real value (from a pawn shop).
I can make beautiful pieces of furniture, clothing and hand bags.
But, often, what a woman wants is just the name tag.
She is looking at the price tags with sparkles in her eyes. I am looking at the shoddy construction and have to leave the store before I burn the joint the joint down.
I hear ya for sure. The whole wedding ring thing was a marketing ploy and I have always thought expensive jewelry is ridiculous.
I think for some women it is an internal struggle for sure. Do they pick the most genetically superior man to breed with or look out for themselves and go for the comfort of material possessions? I just think it would be ridiculous to "fake" it for years or decades with a man who they aren't sexually attracted to.
There are a lot of girls out there who aren't gold diggers though.
There are for sure. But it is impossible for me to put it into words what makes a woman a non-gold-digger.
However, as much as I have been raised that a man pays for the date, having a woman pay for part of the date is of critical importance. Because it makes them invested. It shows that they are not their just for free food. It shows that they have some money themselves.
And... I didn't answer your question.
The female doctor is not a gold digger per-say, but she is looking for a man that is above her pay grade. So, she is looking for that neuro-surgeon, or maybe an investment banker. I don't even think she knows what an entrepreneur is. I am 90% certain that she will have a child and quit doctoring (or at least part time)
I am sure, if you told her, I am an entrepreneur, her response would be something like: That's nice, that you are an entrepreneur, how much do they make?
I get your feeling as well of not being able to put it into words. It is seriously so tough to determine where the line is between a gold digger and a non-gold digger.
About the female doctors. It would financially make sense if they just dated another doctor but you know what I have heard from several of them. They aren't really attracted to the male doctors. They are then pulled in two different directions. They want a guy who is attractive and athletic but most of the time they aren't going to be able to make as much as a doctor busting out 14 hour days at the hospital.
I do see a lot of female doctors end up having kids a few years after being a doctor and then drop to part time. They give up their 20's and then they have the window between 30 and 40 to basically have a kid. It makes it kind of tough for them for sure.
I will say this though. The least gold digger girl I ever met was a doctor. The reason I say that is because her earnings were through the roof and she wasn't high maintenance. She never asked how much I made or anything like that and we were around each other enough for me to tell she wasn't worried about it.
DUDE
its time you sold your Massarati and bought a Ferrari or you are never going to meet any real women!
Should I lease the Farrari or buy it on payments over 20 years? :-)
I'm going to have a supercar and then gold digger test girls with a $2,000 car. If she sticks long enough maybe she gets to see the supercar!
We don't have any of this!
Here in New Zealand everyone drives a 2007 TOYOTA COROLLA SILVER HATCHBACK
And there are no gold diggers because they have all moved to Australia :)
You should lease because then you could also afford an i-phone 8
Yeah and then make payments on the iPhone 8 on an overpriced mobile plan and then before it is paid off trade up to the iPhone X! Then I will look well off and get the chicks! LOL
No, she is only smart
Thank you for your input. Would you let her be "smart" on your savings?
I say GOLD DIGGER
Thank you for your input!
Nice article, something to really think about.
this a very deep question.
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