Art - Thougts of a Curator
If you upvote, you curate
If you vote as one of the first, you earn the most
The more the one you upvote earns
and the higher the vote you give is,
the bigger your share is.
You do not need SC to earn
If you would only use your right to vote...
If you upvote, you curate
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Art is the "het ondergeschoven kindje". Not "the ignored child" like Google Translate will tell you but the foundling that you find on your doorstep one day. A stranger that you have to care for.
Not only the average person but also the government has a hard time with art. For decoration, an amount is budgeted for which a piece of rusty iron is bought with tax money that is placed out of sight next to the highway. With that, the artist has been given an amount and it can be said that money is indeed spent on art. Is it?
Strangely enough, little attention is paid to art skills at schools these days.
Drawing lessons, sculpting, wood carving, etching, singing, dancing, theatre, writing stories, and poetry, just like playing a musical instrument are rare. Every skill has now disappeared from education and even reading comprehension is something that the average person can hardly do. Those who do not understand what is written will never be able to learn to discuss and ask questions about what is labeled as literature.
Who decides what is literature and what is not? If I accept the definition of art below, then that means that if art means nothing to me, I feel nothing when I hear a song or see a dance, painting, or object, then it is not art!.
Steemit & Art
More than once I heard the artist on Steemit say that there is no attention to art. I agree with this, but it is also a fact that the average artist makes little effort to promote himself and only hopes that he or she will be discovered. By the way: more than once I have asked whether there should be a community for Art and the answer is always: What is the point, It will never be successful Steemit doesn't care.
Aren't we Steemit?
If this is the attitude of the average artist, then it will indeed be dead before it starts.
I would love to start a community for Art myself, but when the motivation of the average artist is so extremely low, then it is indeed pointless.
Anyone who does not believe in his creative art should not expect someone else to do so and expect an upvote.
Curator of Art
I tried to upvote art but I noticed that the average artist doesn't use the #art hashtag, pays less attention to be found, and hardly comments or replies. I left more than one message behind and asked to use the right hashtags but there was no response, no change, and with that, my expectations of artists dropped fast. So artists, if no one notices you check your posts and ask yourself how come.
I would like to be, in addition to the Curator of Comments, a Curator of Art but boy oh boy, that is not easy.
Long before I started Team True Colors I have been scouring Steemit for something special, something that I see as art.
Art is definitely present on Steemit, there are great drawings, photos, and stories and so are other skills such as crochet (needlework) as well as sculpture but at the same time, I also see that not everyone is passionate and there are those who, in addition to good, also post a drawing that a 3-year-old would not make. If I see this I ask myself, even if you only make a quick post to receive your automatic upvote why not post something better? This behaviour does not ensure that you are taken seriously as an artist and when I scroll through such an account I think: Never mind, I will not visit this account again.
One of the definitions of Art
Art
Meaning & definition
Art is the ability to express what lives or is awakened in the mind or spirit in such a way that it can move through beauty. Art is a craft that is intended to stimulate the senses.
Art can be divided into pure and free art (referring to beauty only) and into bound art. Inbound art, non-aesthetic purposes also apply, such as arts and crafts and eloquence. A classification can be made from the point of view of sensory perception. This refers to colours, shapes, sounds, and tones. Art that is only intended for the eye includes, for example, architecture, sculpture, and painting, especially in resting images.
Poetry and music are art forms that focus only on the hearing, just like dance and theatre which are also intended for the eye. Art stems from one of the most fundamental tendencies of man. Since prehistoric times, cave paintings of hunting animals and decorations have been made.
source translation google.com
Header/Photogrid: Canva
21-9-2024
#steemit #chat #art #thoughts #kittywu #club75 #steemexclusive
First of all, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts about the topic of Art . By Reading it i got answers of many questions in my mind. Your observation is very deep and based on reality. Some of the points I have noted too.
As far as I understand, the reason for Curators not paying attention to Art topics on Steemit is that artists do not pay attention to each other's work. And neither do they communicate with each other. I am not talking about paintings only its about all categories related with art . Maybe after putting in double effort (making art and then making a post), they get so tired that they don't have the energy to pay attention to someone else's work. That is, artists only value their own work. They don't care what other artists are doing.
Apart from this, I have noted one more thing. You will get comments like "Good job", "Well done", or "Beautiful" on Art posts. Maybe that's why Curators ignore them. Because there is no engagement on this topic. Many people don't want to create their own work, they just trace someone else's picture with a pencil and make a post.
If I talk about myself, I am trying to present my work in a better way day by day. By Hoping, this will catch the attention of Curators in the Art category. And i know this will not be possible until artists start paying attention to each other's work.
It would be great if there was engagement along with entertainment. But I wish it was possible.
Actually, what you are saying I see everywhere no matter if it's photography, writing, or whatever. The average attitude is post and leave or perhaps a part does invest time in answering notifications. If it comes to art or something great there are times when "awesome" is enough especially, if it's said by someone you more frequently talk to or who shows overall interest.
I know I find it hard to promote myself and for sure many more, especially artists, deal with that part. Promoting is time-consuming and that's why authors have publishers doing that work for them, film producers do the same. Should Art on Steemit have their own art critics to do the promoting? It could help but on the other hand who's that crazy to invest time in doing so?
A community Art might be a big help and could highlight some entries. Will it make any of those who publish in it rich? If it comes to that the chance is as big as posting elsewhere. Will it help to be surrounded by other art lovers? It might since no matter if we comment we do see another and being with like minded can already be a big help. If needed there's someone nearby and you don't need days to find someone since the #art and #review hashtags just like #story #poetry #photography and #creativewriting are rarely the places where art can be found.
#comment @jiva34 @vwrites @ibesso @yaladeeds
I am sorry, I took a long time to respond to your comment. To be honest, I have been able to spend less time on Steemit lately due to some specific duties, such as MOD responsibilities. I have reduced my personal activities on Steemit, especially regarding art communities. I don't think it's possible to create and promote a community for art, as many art communities have been created in the past, and recently 'The Creative Pulse Community' was also created, but the same issue persists - lack of engagement and support.
However, if you want to try and support artists through a community, go for it! If it's successful, it would be great.
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The talk here is not about starting something new but starting something to promote art. As I understand you already started a community although you were against it?
I wonder what you mean by lack of engagement and support. Is written down what the expectations ate, how to promote the new community? If no one does that actively how should people know it exists among all the other communities?
There is not one community that became a big hit overnight and since you are an artist yourself you know what type of people you are dealing with and with some luck also how to reach them.
I already support story writers and freewriters and an art contest so my question is to those of the new community why don't you all throw your steem in and support, promote and so on? Also, why is the first thought: how to support big?
If it comes to engagement I have an idea how to solve this but it will cost time and the question is if the will exists to invest.
Do you have names for me if it comes to those many communities you are referring to to?
I assume this is a translator mistake? "less time on Steemit - but mod responsibilities" It sounds like more time to me 🤔
I wish you fun as a MOD and inspiration.
A great weekend to you and I will stop tagging you
@joslud
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Steemit is a place where, seemingly, questions aren't given much importance. However, I feel compelled to answer your questions because I appreciate your inquiring nature. Your approach to promoting art is commendable. But if you think I've started a new community, that's not true. I'm neither a founder nor an admin of any community.
I strive to support art-related communities with my skills and experience, particularly new ones, and contribute to their growth. That's what I'm doing now, just like I did for Knack For Buzz. Not everyone can remain highly active. Perhaps that's why communities often come to a standstill.
To grow a new community, significant Steem investments, effort, and time are required. I understand that not everyone can maintain super activity, especially me. Climbing to the top demands immense hard work.
Can you share your email ID with me? I'd like to discuss something with you over email.
It's a while ago we spoke and I hope if you have time next to your role as a mod (congratulations to you) you will answer what is talked about.
A great day to you.
Team True Colours - @ wakeupkitty
Oh, thank you @wakeupkitty! for the Upvote and congratulating me ! In fact After spending a lot of time on Steemit for the past three months, I'm now trying to give my eyes a rest. "Health is Wealth".
Hi @wakeupkitty, @grebmot , @rashid001
I was waiting to respond to this post because it is a topic that interests me. The state of ART in Steemit.
You qualify it with two terms that Google confuses, (lately this translator is becoming an idiot.)
I think that both qualifiers fit very well for the subject of art in question and how we have left it orphaned, or ignored it.
The conversation you have with @grebmot and @rashid001, I think, establishes very well the "what we have" and the consequences for the promotion of art in all its expressions here on the platform.
What would you add?
Perhaps the "perceived degradation of art" when comparing it with crafts and hobby tutorials. We would have to define what we will consider ART in capital letters.
How to share a piece of art and have the reader of the post immerse themselves in its entirety?
We would also have to rethink how to present the performances and artistic pieces that are produced, until now we are only translating them into verbal, photographic (often of poor quality) and video codes.
I think it opens up an interesting debate, I firmly believe that Steemit is a space for all types of artistic expression, but in the same way we have to bring back that abandoned son and give him his place as firstborn.
PS: Open to being part of a pro-ARTS team.
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I'm pathological rambler, so most of the times I don't know what I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, I'm biting my tongue right now. My ill-begotten advice and worthless chime-ins tend to disturb the natural order of things.
I'll say this though: It does sound like a neat idea, but you guys seem to be borderlining insomnia as it is. As I said, don't take me too seriously, but I figure what would really make a difference is if you somehow managed to incorporate the average user into the curation process. Said it before somewhere, I feel like a mooch. In the sense of not knowing how to properly return the favor, besides showering you with impotent upvotes.
Besides that. I like the whole idea of ousider art and reckon people are just expecting too much. From themselves and maybe from others. I don't know how to articulate this thought properly, so I'll just stop.
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Unlike what you believe your vote is never impotent. You make a change and it all depends in who you vote and when what the value is (check if you vote on posts if 6 days old). Since you grow your vote will too but the best reward you give is the engagement you offer.
You call it rambling, I call it a next great read giving me something to think about, smile, consider, like and be grateful for.
We all "return favours" in our own way and with the capabilities we have.
If it comes to deviantart they did not let me in. I could only see the homepage. I will try again.
♥️🍀
@wakeupkitty
Well that's strange. I can access deviantart without logging in. Try this link:
https://www.deviantart.com/tomsbadart/gallery/all
Now I can watch it. You have some interesting pieces. Lately AI only?
You're being kind. I appreciate that. Mostly it's just glorified doodles and such. Don't have any delusions of grandeur about it either, just thought it was interesting in terms of being a reflection. Or like a rorschach test of sorts, where as interpretations tend to be about as accurate as your average cleaning lady's dream analysis.
I only did a little bit of AI and got burned out almost instantly. Most of the doodles for that matter are scans, taken from a few A4 folders collecting dust somewhere. You can find some of the scans in the scraps category. Checking the dates you might notice I'm either doing a lot, or nothing at all. Right now I'm deep into nothing at all.
Thinking about it. In an odd way my approach isn't too far off from prompting an image generator. Only it's GrebmotGPT rather than something else.
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Thank you!
After reading you I can only say: Let's start! Let's get that child back.
I agree with everything you say and I don't care if there are only two or ten as long as art has a home. I believe it deserves it and it's the foundation of everything we do, preach and promote on Steemit but most have no clue what the word means or how to recognize it.
Art is feelings expressed by craft-skills with the help of certain technics. It is a wide range but we can for sure divide it in a few groups
Any ideas? This might be the hardest task since art and writing amd posting do not automatically go hand in hand and just like the photograps, I see drawings and other "crafts" being labelled as art. It might take time to loosen up the Steemian used to post with a template and rules.
I'm delighted that you've expressed your kind words about Art. We can strive to promote art in our own way. Perhaps the day will come when art will also gain prominence.
Actually did some shoddy art and still got a deviant art account somewhere, but I more or less stopped. Mainly because AI made it seem pointless and I wasn't that good at it anyhow.
That's a self-portrait I did in oil 2022. If you're wondering I was bending over a mirror. The background is the ceiling.
If you're bored check out deviantart.com/tomsbadart
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I appreciate it!