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RE: A Real Partner

in #future7 years ago

They don't exist.

I don't believe in love, I can't understanding love itself and it is beyond my mind. Then, the marriage, which defined by myself "two person tied together in the name of love", it is mean the boring way to spend your life, there is no freedom at all. Last but not least, I could say that emotion makes human weak.

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I believe in love in its broadest sense, but I am not so sure I believe in relationships as they have been historically been defined. The funny part is that I don't think historically relationships were these monogamous things they have become today. I think that came much later with the invention of guilt. In tribal society, we don't see these types of patterns. There, union is much more fluid.

Freedom is an essential component for me. Without that, then you are there out of obligation, not desire, and for that, I would rather be alone.

Do I believe in love? Yes. I love many people, from friends to relatives to lovers to even some strangers. Do I believe in "the one" that is supposed to complete me? Nope. I complete myself, everyone else is just icing on the already delicious cake that is ME! :p

Very insightful message, imo.

You'll get no argument from me on your committed values, only admiration for your clarity.

I look forward to sharing with my history with you.

A bientot.

Wow. Strongly written, @zeusqraqen (Ashraf)!

I'm curious about the strength of your commitment to avoiding intimacy.

You don't believe in love; does that mean that people who experience deep intimate relationships are fooling ourselves?

Or perhaps it means that you believe that others have it but you can't?

I'm curious about how you think. Would you mind explaining?

And...do you think that you might ever change your mind about that?

Wondering,

Mike

A little tip Mike (@rortian): I notice that you often write the name of the person you are replying to without the @ symbol. If you want to tag that person in a way that they will see it, then it is better for you to use @ and the username. In this case, @zeusqraqen. Hope that helps!

Sure it helps. Thank you.

Even hearing your "voice" is important to me at this point. I've been wondering about how you've been doing, and I've missed hearing from you.

I trust that you'll get back to us with your next chapter when you'll be ready, @yvesoler.

best regards and best wishes

I have class from 9.00 to 19.00 on Fridays and Saturdays, so I tend to stay away from the computer. My intention is always to jump back on on Sundays, but while I do get here, my brain is not prepared for deep thought as I am still processing what my professors taught the previous two days and getting ready for the week ahead. Hope to be back in critical thinking mode by tomorrow!

I trust that you win't hurry on my accoun!

Here's how I deal with abstract values like patience (or goodness, or moderation or any good idea) that I want to apply as a commitment.

I'm striving for infinite patience (which of course is an ideal abstraction, like any value), while understanding that nobody's perfect and that it's silly to equate practical results with abstract values.

They occupy different metaphysical spaces. They're comprised of different substances; that's why nobody's perfect, faultless, or saintly (well, not in my experience, and in not in my theory).

This is a preamble to my diatribe on labeling, categorizing, soon to be made public. I'm working on a list of things to blog about while I sit back, listen, and chat.

So, please burst into prose whenever you've figured out what you most want to get to next and what your approach oughta be.

BTW, do you have an opinion about my very bold assertion about being a judgment-free zone? I suppose that I should publish a caveat about my commitment to imperfection before my friends here are turned off by my claiming the impossible!

In all honesty, I am not able to keep up with all the posts, sorry. This is your main area of research, so it makes perfect sense for you to crank out a post a day plus long comments on these topics. Mine is different, so I am falling behind trying to keep up with the emotional and philosophical exploration in addition to my already full plant research plate. Someone has to bring home the bacon and solve the world's problem with plant blindness around here! :)

I may need to take a step back and slow down my rate of response. I still want to connect, but at a pace that is friendlier to my own future developments.

OK. No worries.

@rortian Sorry because I don't explain my statement above very well. I did'nt mean that people who experience deep intimacy relationship are fooling themselve. Maybe its only me, cause I have a reason about that. And actually I believe the existence of love like @yvesoler has state before

Do I believe in love? Yes. I love many people, from friends to relatives to lovers to even some strangers.

except for the stranger.

I don't believe in marriage for the sake of love. For me it only just a contract. I don't know. hahaha I'm just a kid maybe I'm not wiser enough to talk about this.

Well, that's clear. Thanks for having replied, Ashraf.

I don't believe in marriage for the sake of love. For me it only just a contract.

Well, this leaves the possibility of combining both, is that correct?

And, Ashraf, would you agree with my belief that combining both would be considered optimal?

"I'm just a kid maybe I'm not wiser enough to talk about this."

Well, that's pretty wise, I think!

If you don't make a commitment about what you'll think in the future as you learn, then it might be easier to learn new ideas and change old ones. That's what I think; do you agree with that?

Thanks for talking with me. I appreciate it.

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