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RE: Practical Angel Magick: Steem Magick Group Ritual Part 2-- Performing The Ritual

in #esoteric7 years ago

here's my issue with this...and maybe you can enlighten me @jphenderson... IF the Jews mistook Enlil for the Creator, and these "angels" are emisaries to Enlil and Enki - then - is it wise to call upon them for assistance? Maybe I am missing something, but this Yahweh character that the Hebrews believed to be "God" may have been a god - but to me he was just an alien that created mankind using genetic engineering... I have not been able to find an answer to this in my search and I have read Damon Brandt's book(s), and did not feel that it was a good idea to experiment with these entities without knowing who they really are... PLUS reciting Hebrew phonetically - without knowing what you are reciting - help me out here - I am not trying to be difficult - but it just seems risky to me...

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I can gladly get a translation for you. The Hebrew part is primarily one of the psalms. As far as them being emissaries of enlil and/or enki, the "god" referred to here is basically the entire universe. Most akin to the Hermetic concept of The All. From a kabbalistic standpoint it would be Ein Soph and all the Sefiroth. The concept of Ayin would also be relevant. It is the whole undivided and these angels are aspects of the Oneness.

@jphenderson I really appreciate your taking the time to write this to me - please tell me where you read this - I have been dilligently seeking this information for a long while - and have not been able to read about it... I would hope that is true but that old testament god attributed to the Hebrews does not seem like "God" or the All - it seems like a mean motherfucker I would not want to know. I think it is probably that our version of the old testament is written in code because of the placement or misplacement of the vowels - but i have no idea how to find this out...and I am very wary of practicing something I do not understand...thanks again...

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this... It's not information you will find in one convenient source. Even if you did it would take years of research and experience to understand it. There's multiple things going on in the Old Testament and in some respects they are talking about at least 2 separate ideas when they talk about "God". On one hand, the Old Testament tells the stories of a people exposed first to the Sumerian then the Egyptian Mysteries. On one level these mysteries are encoded in symbolic form as a sort of metaphor within the writings. On this level the "God" they are referring to is what I was referring to as the Hermetic concept of The All. On another level, there were people who took it too literally and this invited one or more lower beings to pretend they are this "god" and vamp off the people. This is why it seems like such an asshole. These ideas are all jumbled up for many reasons. For one thing, these were word of mouth stories for thousands of years before they were ever written down. Add to that mistranslations from one translation to the next and manipulation from everyone from the Babylonians to the Roman Catholics and what is in our Bibles today is so far from the original ideas that it's hard to get the truth from it. Aspects of that are both intentional and unintentional. It's taken many decades of research and experience on how things are and work in the unseen realms to figure out what was really going on in the old testament. I wouldn't spend too much time trying to figure out the Old Testament. The angels aren't unique to Judeo-Christianity for one thing and neither is Kabbalah. The names of God are formulas as are the names of the angels that are derived from it and these are aspects of the One. This is what we are working with in the rituals and that is what is important from a practical perspective.

thank you @jphenderson - I really appreciate this and your taking the time to help me reason this out. I don't think the "bible" is real either - it's like misinformation - but I read in John Baynes the Stellar Man his theory of how Moses was trying to save the Jews from slavery and he called in some super dark entity which expelled the living spirit of the earth and started to take over - it made sense to me - then Moses goes and tells the other wise guys of the time about his mistake and they call in "Jesus" to fix their error but He doesn't and instead the earth now has split ownership... I like the story - it resonates with me - and so it freaks me out - these entities and "calling them in".

Don't get caught up in all of that. I freakout out and backed out of using the Magick when I first started. Because of the same thing. But here is the thing. We don't know what stories are True and are Not. We also don't know if he entire Bible/Torah is a fabrication and nothing more than stories to teach metaphysical lessons which is the Belief of Neville Goddard and many others.

Especially since I have been very vocal against all the Old Testament God many times.

I have been working with Arcangels for about 3 months and have had only good things happen. I did not do rituals. I'm just not a big ritual person. But since i have gone back used the Angels of Alchemy with a number of Angels and I'm having some very good results. I have also been working with Oziel to do some work on Changing beliefs and it's working very well.

As far as Enlil there are so many side from the all being bad to them both being good and Anu being the bad one, then some say they are all good or all bad, who knows. I have had very positive experience asking Enki for help as well.

But what I like the most about GOM is you stay in control and in power, you offer gratitude but do not worship. It's only as risky as you believe it is after all on the ultimate level everything is One part of ALL THAT IS and all aspects of the whole.

It's funny have not felt it in awhile but reading your post brought back the same sick fearful feeling I had even in spite of my work and positive experiences with this Magick. So I know what you are feeling. The good thing about my fearful feeling what that is caused me to go in search of knowledge and read a ton of info from several sources about Angels.

I would say if you are not comfortable with it... don't do it. Instead... Visualized the prices of steem higher and everyone talking about every day that others are doing the ritual. Back when steem was about $.45 I did a post trying to get people to Visualize and use the LOA to raise the price of Steem. Only a couple of people did it with me. Within 3 month we had the highest levels we have seen in a long time.

You could also do a Cosmic Order Or Just ask the Universe for what you want know that it's fulfilled automatically and then totally let go of it. If you're not comfortable with doing the ritual.

thank you for your comments @nspart. I really appreciate being able to talk this over with others. If it was not for Mark Passio I would still be completely locked out of the "occult" because I never bothered to look up the meaning of the world...so it's been a year and I have done a lot of studying. I have a spiritual life otherwise and I am strong in that - but yes you are right - I have this weird feeling about these rituals - and I am not a ritual person either - I just started to look into WHO THE HELL ARE THESE ENTITIES? and I don't know. So, I am talking it over with y'all. Thanks for your comments - it helps a lot.

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