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Yes. Like the robber barons of the late 1800s. They used the government to put in trains, so they could move into the West, without having to invest their own money. A classic example of the neo-fuedal system we have in America: steal other people's money so a few rich, ruling white men can have it.
How would we move around if every square inch of land was owned by another human being? Under America's system, the land is slowly being gobbled up by a few billionaire hedge funds....
Would we pay a few billionaires every time we wanted to pass? Seems in-efficient?
And who would pay to remove the roads?
We're kind of stuck with them. Better stop killing children in poor nations, with our drones and fix our own messes first, IMHO.

they didn't have to invest their own money?
so without the government imposing antitrust laws a few billionaires would have monopolies on everything?
remove the roads? who wants to do that?
thanks to the drones we kill a far smaller number of children in foreign lands than we once did. Good thing Barry is gone, we haven't blown up one MSF hospital since.

OK. The robber barons did invest their own money in buying the government.
That investment has the highest ROI (return on investment) on earth...buying the US government.
With the US Empire in charge, and the federal reserve pulling the strings, yes, everything in America tends toward monopolies...look around...or groups like OPEC.
Are we talking real world or is this theorizing? I'm confused now.
I was also challenging the notion that roads and car are something that would naturally occur without the government putting their.
He bitched about who would fix them.
And I'm asking: WHY FIX THEM? They suck...
The assumption is that we should fix the roads that shouldn't be there in the first place, if we had free markets and competition.
There are far more efficient and profitable ways to move people and goods around...there just currently is lots of incentives to NOT pursue more efficient option so:
We bomb the fuck out of the planet.
And we bitch about the roads.
I thought the original post was about not relying on the government...and I don't rely on them to slaughter children in other nations, with our drones.
You might love to see children slaughtered so your 401K keeps getting bigger...not me.

The returns on lobbying are pretty impressive in general.
I like driving places.
We don't really bomb the planet like we used to, modern bombing pales in comparison. You seem to be able to complain about that and the roads just fine. You don't have a car?
Sounds like you don't have much of a 401k. Children getting slaughtered is not all that profitable, not part of my portfolio.

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