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RE: Announcing the Delegation Committee
Steemit INC is a centralized business and their stake is theirs. The fact they are gathering people from the community to help delegate it I think is a step in the right direction.
It's called conflict of interest regardless of how you try to sugarcoat it
It’s true what you say, but let’s face it @aggroed has proven to make profitable moves and sting can’t seem to do much without him
it is not a conflict of interest, this is not a congressional hearing.
and water is not wet.
I was thinking the same. The reason why we have a delegation application process in the first place could be because of these good men, of course with Steemit Inc.'s support and approval. The good part is that these folks have not been a part of Steemit core team but the community members who stand out due to their kickass work.
Also, conflict of interest arise when @aggored was chosen as the only committee member. There are other two folks as well, damn good at what they do. From different backgrounds with different projects, they will have a say as well in the delegation process. And then Steemit Inc., will(read "have to") ensure the process to be transparent and corruption free without influencing their decision. [They have mentioned this in the blog].
I think we should give all of them a chance to prove themselves as a team now. The crazy part is that things are moving forward.
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I understand that part. I was merely pointing out the slight conflict of interest. @aggroed has contributed a lot to our ecosystem, no doubt about it.
It just seems odd to have him participate in the figurative executive, legislative, and judicial branch all at the same time.
I'm sure we will be fine, though. This place needs strong leaders to lead it out of the bear.
Aggroed is just a beast TBH. He steps up and takes on responsibly like a champion. Hats off to him.
Yes, let's place more conspiracy nuts into power positions. What a great idea.
Oh, Christ...he's a conspiracy nut too? Like a flat-earther, or just a run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorist?
The US orchestrated 9/11 kind of conspiracy theorist. I recall he thinks the earth is flat as well, I think we talked about that on the subway when I met him a few years back. His PhD in chemistry is not an illustration of his capacity for logical thought.
He's not a mean guy, I can give him that. However some of the early conversations I had with him, will forever discredit him to me.
You can certainly find blogs of his where he refers to himself as a "truther" which is just a cutie term for nutbag. There's a good reason why the man's own family doesn't enjoy his presence.
Good grief.
WOW so your attacking the man saying his own family doesnt like him? How the FUCK would you know?
And you THINK hes a flat earther? Now thats a "Micro slander" if I ever read one!
What if someone just said they THINK you were a pedophile?
Should we judge peoples character based on some "talk on the subway" you claim to have had?
Im willing to bet money you have never met the man, and are simply another loser jealous of the success he has had, because your own investment in steem didn't turn out so well.
He said so himself in a recent post.
https://steemit.com/palnet/@aggroed/vacation
You could bet that money, but we've met more than once. So you would lose the bet.
Oh, I've been here since 2016. My investment in steem turned out just fine :) I've been around for the run from $0.07 to $7.
Nice using a a mans personal diary against him, talking about his personal life and family should be off limits but your a low life who resorts to this so none of your argument matters
your literally trying to argue about a mans family not liking him or not, and using his own journal entry against him like this is some sort of twisted sick court case.
You are 100% jealous of his success or you wouldn't complain. You said yourself youve mad plenty of money so why are you whining?
And You say youve met him more than once, thats no proof of anything and no one cares . Why dont you go try making a game like @steemmonsters go tell us how that works out for you
I mean, OK. He's in the legislative branch. True. Now he's in the judicial. Also true. Executive, not really. However, do you have anyone else you think would be a better fit? He or she must possess the following attributes:
Is there politics here? Meh. Sure. There ALWAYS IS! But I'm telling you, I'd rather have him deciding who gets what for the mere fact that he knows what looks like it will work and what won't. We're not here to waste resources. I don't think this is a bad decision. But I guess we'll find out, won't we?
How about you try and give me other names. And we'll debate it.
I guess by your criteria, not even the people who were in the Working Groups of the Foundation would qualify.
But, that's besides the point. Like you said, we wait and see.
I don't know who was in the working groups, and I'm sure they qualify more than anyone else. But I do think the criteria above can't hurt. I think if you're going to be going around delegating buttloads of SP, you oughta have at least some business acumen, and something to show for your dedication and personal investment.
In this case, sunk cost is a motivator....bias or not.
I totally agree with you. And maybe it's just difficult to find people who are eligible for the position and not being involved in major Steem projects.
I think so too, also i think the guys will make a great job, because there stay in puplic and nobody want drama :)
I agree. In fact, I've been WAITING for them to take the leap. Is it going to be perfect? No. Will the priority be to increase the value and usership of steem?
Yep.
Will it primarily be designed to benefit steemit inc?
Yep.
Is that a bad thing?
Nope. Not as long as the people who get the delegation are legitimately bringing in the bacon, making it a stronger place, and working toward making this platform a household name. I couldn't care LESS who gets the delegation, as long as their goal is to positively affect our growth with DAPPS and projects that bless and help others besides just us!
Yeah i have actually interacted with and gotten organic upvotes from all 3 of these users and recognized all 3 of these names as TRUE steemians who I recognize as being active in the trenches, more so than myself. I feel like @aggroed deserves to get delegation for his project because it will employ so many people, and if he has to be on the committee to get that passed, its not a freakin conflict oif interests, what is this the government? This is steem and its about time community leaders are recognized, so lets applaud steemit inc's new Executive @elipowell for creating the space to allow for a delegation committee to give aggroed some credit in an official steemit inc position..... because he represents the interests of many steemians, and is a sort of Elon Musk character with his hands in many successful projects. If we just had 10 more @aggroed 's each withtheir own unique steem dapp or game as big as steem monsters, steem engine, palnet.io SCOT communities, each one a separate innovation and accomplishment...
I appreciate all of the concerns but Steemit inc cant afford to NOT have aggroed AND why shouldn't steem monsters get delegation?!
Seriously now.. think about this ... what conflict of interest is there really but your own conflict with the interests of steem and steemit inc being able to bless a successful dapp like steemmonsters with delegation otherwise going toi some other project... but with steemmonsters we could onboard and reward and Afford SO MUCH more...
conflicts of interest happen if aggroed could reward himself here, and he wont be able to. So yeah sorry, it would be a conflict of interest if he was able to fund his own projects but he wont be able to do this is all just a bunch of nitpicking from jelous people
Yeah i have actually interacted with and gotten organic upvotes from all 3 of these users and recognized all 3 of these names as TRUE steemians who I recognize as being active in the trenches, more so than myself. I feel like @aggroed deserves to get delegation for his project because it will employ so many people, and if he has to be on the comittee to get that passed, its not a freakin conflict oif interests, what is this the government? This is steem and its about time community leaders are recognized, so lets applaud steemit inc's new Executive @elipowell for creating the space to allow for a delegation committee to give aggroed some credit in an official steemit inc position..... because he represents the interests of many steemians, and is a sort of Elon Musk character with his hands in many successful projects. If we just had 10 more @aggroed 's each withtheir own unique steem dapp or game as big as steem monsters, steem engine, palnet.io SCOT communities, each one a separate innovation and accomplishment...
I apreciate all of the concerns but Steemit inc cant afford to NOT have aggroed AND why shoudlnt steem monsters get delegation?!
SERIOUSLy now.. think about this ... what conflict of interst is there really but your own conflict with the interests of steem and steemit inc being able to bless a succesful dapp like steemmonsters with delegation otherwised going toi some otehr project... but with steemmonsters we could onbaord and reward and Afford SO MUCH more...
Let's look it up in the dictionary:
You may well be right that @aggroed's delegation proposal deserves to be approved. If so then people on the committee without a direct personal interest should see that too.
And aggroed is not allowed to gift his own projects, obviously, so just no, sorry , not a conflict of interest and @steemit @andrarchy and @aggroed will agree
if you start calling conflict of interest on everyone with a successful steem project then you will have no one left to fill the positions
this is nit picking
Free delegation to one's own project is certainly a personal benefit. Denying said delegation to a directly competing project would also be a personal benefit. Read the definition again, it doesn't say anything about gifting.
Nowhere did I say people should be excluded from the positions, only that they should decline to take part in specific decision where there is a direct conflict. This is easy to do and not disruptive as long as there is a slightly larger committee or alternates.
Practically every decision making body in the world uses this procedure.
Gifting delegation, giving delegation, your just arguing semantics now...
When i said gift you knew what I meant, delegating... gifting a delegation, giving a delegation, great what have we done here? argue semantics, cool
no one is giving free delegation to ones own project and no one is going to deny others LOL
Its a catch 22! under your scenarios @aggroed can't help but do something wrong!
And please, tell us about how we should just start using the rules and regulations put forth by all the existing governments on earth, yeah great idea. Should we start using Roberts Rules of order while were at it? Why not just start electing representatives for each region, to spend delegation based on geographic population densities... why not just turn steemit inc into the government where we can't ever get anything done because of all the red tape!
Read this: your nitpicking and arguing semantics.
Nope, just step aside in specific case if a direct conflict exists. Not catch 22 at all. Easy.
I said nearly every decision making body. That's more than governments, it is also company boards, clubs, charities, etc.
Really this concept is basic and I don't know why you are getting yourself so worked up or confused over it.
I do know that your comments aren't adding value so I'm going to go ahead and make a little downvote to offset your undeserved self-upvote.
All of your comments actually REMOVED value from steem so they deserve to be downvoted as well. Oh look at that your childish attitude as just accomplished nothing! congratulations
You are 100% jealous of @aggroed or you wouldn't be here complaining :D
Addressing conflict of interest (that not even aggroed himself can deny) is not about “jealousy”, it’s about making intelligent observations.
There very much is conflict of interest that will need to be dealt with, the committee seems to be aware of this and we will see how they handle it.
Trying to make it about something personal or “jealousy” is just moronic.
I think you are corrupt