RE: Thanks @nextgencrypto
cheetah does not have to post or flag automatically, it could be posted into an anti-plagiarism chatroom instead and users then have the information, and enact the punishment. Doesn't take many users across time zones to have this sorting out plagiarists and suppressing their ability to continue to plagiarise.
I am not familiar with what the other bots do, but again, if they can be replaced with humans, the results are much more effective and precise and appropriate. If someone starts a crusade, against someone innocent, they can be suppressed.
As you get to understand the bad behaviour mitigation mechanisms in Calibrae, you will see there really is no need for auto-vote or auto-post bots whatsoever, and when it is running I will certainly be participating in the policing processes. A human who presides over publishing the data does not also need a bot, the report can just be generated and pasted into a post manually. If needed, more than one person can have posting keys for this account to act as a backup or to distribute the work.
Consider the difference between Robocop and Judge Dredd. I'd rather be judged by the latter than the former, what about you? I won't go into technical law discussions about the Magna Carta, but I strongly believe in the principle that judgement should only be by peers. I could talk about that subject until the cows come home, but suffice it to say that I know enough about law to know what proper jurisprudence looks like. It does not look like these bots, at all.
cheetah does a fantastic job automatically, except from the important part that it upvotes cases which are palgiarism and does not downvote at 100%.
It should also self upvote at 100% in order to grow its SP.
In order for its voting power not being drained, it has to have more instances running, like randowhale, randowhale1, randowhaletrail, randowhalebonus, etc.
Find me an instance when Cheetah gave a false positive.
In fact it does such a good job, that once it detected plagiarism outside of steemit.
This is how good cheetah is.
And you want to replace it with the good will of humans?
Cheetah acts quicker than people do, and has a far higher detection rate.
My problem with blacklist-a is that it does not post often enough, does not self upvote, but it too does a good job.
Cheetah, blacklist-a and a few others are part of this place's good experience.
Why go back to early 2000s?
The only place left for human judgement is if these bots go wrong, but do you have even one instance of such a case?
You've captured my attention.
You know cheetah just uses google's search engine, right?
So? It does it good and it spares humans the bother.
Humans will not have the speed and tenacity of such an excellent bot.
If you won't have a parallel to cheetah, you put calibrae at another disadvantage to steemit.
You haven't considered the fact that after a serial plagiarist gets caught several times by a voluntary security group that they will probably have downvoted them to the point they have the minimum rights to post, ie, 1 transaction per day, and limit restrictions on transfer quantities, and all the other things that constitute "Calibrae Jail"
You should inform yourself better about what is planned before you make uninformed comments.
Oh well I see we both decided to agree more or less on our lil 40 rep visitor. le sigh
He has been basically trolling, as far as I'm concerned. I decided that I had enough of it now.
Yeah. I reacted a bit strongly but I have a low tolerance for dumb. It's my weakness.
I'm pretty tolerant of it but I can only take so much before it is plain the person is just trolling. Some people do this because they are just space cadets with ADD but when the tone is very harsh and repetitive, it can't be ADD so that's the point at which I decide.
I have the patience of a saint when it comes to training and teaching, especially if I am being paid. But I think any teacher would rather not take the money, all else being equal, if the student is being contrary to amuse themselves. Whether it's teaching or simply discussing something that the subject simply does not know that much about. At a certain point with that guy, it became obvious he wasn't interested in reading about it, just telling me his opinion about whatever I said last, usually out of context.
It is true that I am not fully informed about what is being planned, but what is being planned is wrong.
In such a case (given no cheetah, and your jury), why not delete that user?
Why allow it minimal rights?
You've made it look effortless.
You also know, that if say, you publish a weekly game and happen to include the same rules - you get cheetahed. If you bring a post up and reference a signifigicant portion in block quote tags to discuss it inline, from your own material, you get cheetahed. Why the fuck would the creators make cheetah not check if you own your own shit. You cannot steal from YOURSELF, but cheetah thinks you can.
bots like that suck, but human witch hunts happen too. So I wouldn't put it on a select jury. It just needs to be handled by community etiquette instilled and it can be. FB and Twitter and Reddit and 4chan self police and bad actors get ignored. What we need is less bots and more BLOCKING, which on the block chain is not going to hide your shit, but mute is what we've got. I don't give a damn if dude is copy right thieving, what I care about is blocking dude out of MY line of sight, and after that's handled, I give no fucks anymore, but bots fail and so do human posses.
Now you seem to have found flaws in cheetah.
You should contact its creator, or create an improvement (should be flawless if you correct these things) of your own either here, there, or both.
In your second paragraph you are wrong and displaying extreme self-centrism.
YOU don't care if YOU don't see, until YOU feel the effects on your beloved platform.
Ignorance in its pure sense.
Arrogance and presumption in it's pure sense ^
Look into Austrian economics, Hoppe and Mises and Anarcho Capitalism.
Intellectual property wants to be free. I don't want to see stuff from other platforms, and there is a difference.
As for the flaw, cataloging something any regular user of this platform is well aware of, doesn't make them my discoveries, just my contextual comment on my acquaintance's post.
Assumptions in their pure sense have a well known definition as well. I'm going to assume you already know it.
Thanks for the arrogant, self important, a-type insistence on injecting, how did you call it, ignorance? and condescension though. Have a taste of it back, and have a swell day, you cute lil' 40 rep stranger.
What was arrogant about my previous reply?
Austrian Economics is no longer valid since 1971, or around 1918, to be more exact.
You should look into MMT / Mosler Economics.
Anarcho Capitalism is a load of crap.
Here is my reply about it, maybe I should post it here as a blog post:
Hoppe and Mises I know nothing about, but from the context and the other 2 concepts I suppose I miss nothing by not knowing about them.
You care about intellectual propert of spammers?
They cause a violation for the intelectual properties of others and to some others' physical properties.
Any regular user here is aware of cheetah's flaws as you described them?
I was not aware, and look at Cheetah's author rewards for additional evidence of your being wrong.
Look at how many upvotes it gets.
Move along lil 40, $14 acct newb. Adults are talking here.
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