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RE: Viva Bitcoin Cash

in #bitcoin7 years ago

You are clearly so against core and LN that you never read the paper. A node will never be able to sensor anyone because they don't get any information about a transaction and will get financially punished by the smart contract when he don't forward it (so explain me how they will sensor?!?)

The mathematical prove where you are talking about is perfectly debunked by the other writer, because the math is good but the assumptions are not. If someone calculates perfectly how big the surface of a circle is while we are talking about a square you don't need to show the other math. The mathematician is clearly a really good mathematician but understands nothing but nothing of LN.

The price to send transactions with BTC is high at the moment indeed, but don't forget that Segwit could be implemented a year earlier already if it wasn't blocked by the big blockers (haha, blockers double meaning). Now we have Segwit only half a year and a lot of innovation is rolling out now. I expect the tide to change over this year and transactions to get cheaper over time so that all world population can use it.

LN will take smal and micro transactions, RSK will take programmable transactions and unchain will scale by Segwit adoption and later Schnorr and other optimizations.

Probably this is the WORST moment to change your BTC for BCH, because soon it will be obsolete. Beside that BCH is still sliding down after the market manipulation that made it spike.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BCASH, BUT NOT DRAG OTHERS WITH YOU

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Flagged for giving yourself .79 on a comment... lame

Bullshit, I think I have something important to say, people get mislead here. A selfupvote makes me more visible (comments rank on earning), by investing in Steem power I bought the right to do it.

He only give is opinion and flagging someone because he upvoted is own comment ... What a child attitude...
I have not the knowledge to say if BTC or BCH is the better, we'll see that in te future.
At the moment everyone cry because BTC goes down but it was predictable i though when we see how fast he goes up

And by the way if people like you have to play police officer here the system doesn't work, decentralized systems should regulate themselves, or are you a Bcash shill? Downvote anti Bcash comments away like is done on r/btc

By me doing what I did the market is regulating itself. Are you dumb?

Lol and I invested in the right to flag people stop crying ya baby. Btw I looked you up before I flagged you and all of your comments are upvoted by you. So if you're going to hide behind the "It's my rights as my investment" go for it. I'll still stand by my flag. 👌

Btw, everyone thinks they have something important to say. Unfortunately for you I've seen nothing original and you are just stealing rewards because you can. You wanna be one of those people, go for it. Anytime I see a post of yours I'll flag it if you upvote yourself and steal from the pool. Have a nice day.

Lastly, idc what you prefer... btc or bch. I care that instead of giving yourself a .01 upvote you gave yourself .80 just cause you can and are stealing from the reward pool. This market will regulate itself by people like me downvoting people like you. To think people like you should just be able to game the system and get away with it is crazy. You are obviously confused or live in some dream world.

You clearly don't understand anything of Steemit or decentralized systems in general. Steemit has a huge inflation rate, so just investing would be very stupid. The positive thing on investing in Steem is that it gives you some advantages like making your posts / comments more visual and earning something. This is the reason I invested in it, and I use the rights I bought. Till a few weeks ago you could even choose for a selfupvote before you posted a comment. Steemit needs investors to pay out the popular bloggers who are getting more upvotes than views (isn't this a flaw? people up voting without reading?) If you take away the advantages of investing in Steem, nobody will invest and the pool will be drained in no time. Why should writers earn thousands of dollars for less than an hour writing while investors who are as needed have no rights? And my main point is that YOU think you are the one who can decide, we have a full decentralized consensus system that makes decisions like that.

Loser, go upvote all my own posts now.

I am aware of how Steemit and decentralized systems work. The reward pool is supposed to be used to reward others for their work, and people who make a lot of money off posts don't just spend an hour on their work. They have to research, many of them say they type drafts, and then they post up the end product which they deserve to get paid for more than you do for your comment that took 3 minutes to write. You think you deserve almost $1 for that? You complain about people needing upvotes but yet you use all of yours on yourself.

"And my main point is that YOU think you are the one who can decide, we have a full decentralized consensus system that makes decisions like that."

I AM the one that can decide because I am an investor. I have the right to flag people when they are being rewarded more than they deserve for posts, click the flag that's an option right there. The full decentralized consensus comes from people like me and you voting on content, so I think you are the one who doesn't understand. If you want to give yourself an upvote to move your comment to the top, do a small % vote. Give yourself 100% on any actual posts you make. But spreading your opinion around in the comment sections and thinking you deserve to be rewarded for it is wrong, others should be rewarding you if they think what you say is valuable. That is how we build a decentralized consensus.

I have linked there peer reviewed scientific papers backing my logic. You can't argue against that by words, you need to provide sufficient scientific counter-evidence if you want to be taken seriously.

Even if you say that LN is good, which I don't necessarily hate, but I hate the idea that it's forced on us.

Bitcoin Cash can also implement LN if they want to, and probably will in the future, mostly to help out faucets and micro-businesses, that have a lot of automated transactions.

The difference is that BCH doesn't force you to use LN though high fees. In BCH every transaction can have it's place in the blockchain, and only use LN for automated transactions with many input/output.

So this is the correct way of scaling, you give people access to the decentralized blockchain, but also add these "plugins" for special users.

Bitcoin Core wants to force you to use their tech, and essentially create a permission based Bitcoin.

I have no fundamental problem with 3rd party solutions, it's just that they should not be forced on us, if there is somebody that wants to use them, it's fine.

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