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RE: Can you finance a million dollar campaign house while we stalk people? @AdamKokesh, @BenFarmer

in #anarchy6 years ago (edited)

You’ve crossed the wires in a couple places. I’m not sure where you are getting the “Zone Alarm” thing.

So the very idea that this company would have problems doing business with people because their money may not be above board seems doubtful to me.

The doxxing/hacking may or may not have been approached via the company’s official resources themselves. However, the 1.1 million requested for the house was being requested through company connections. Does that make sense?

My claims are credible because I am telling the truth about what has been revealed to me. Perhaps you mean the claims of the infosec pro are not. I’d like to know why you think they are not.

Legal action is being taken. Thank you.

Already considered the 4-D chess stuff.

Edit: I gotcha! Zone Alarm made by this company:

https://www.checkpoint.com/about-us/contact-us/

What specifically, is questionable about the legitimacy of this company in your estimation?

I’m not saying you are wrong, just wondering.

Edit 2: My disagreements with the Kokesh campaign were about logic and ideas. It was only when I challenged these that the personal attacks from his end began.

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The company who filed the complaint on Ripoff Report is listed as Check Point in San Carlos. When I Google it, it appears to be the company that creates the Zone Alarm software. They are a popular company and credible company to me. So it seems unlikely that they would be involved in the type of activity that the grey hat is involved in. All of that seems like highly illegal stuff to me. If the Zone Alarm company is behind that type of behavior, that alone would be pretty mind-blowing stuff. I'm not saying your claims are not credible, I just wonder if the person who contacted you is above board. I doubt they really work for Check Point as the report seems to indicate. If they don't work for Check Point they're using the name of a credible company to lodge a complaint against a candidate who is running for political office. Seems almost equally as shady as the type of stuff that Farmer allegedly tried to get them to do. Hopefully, I comprehended everything in context.

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"The doxxing/hacking may or may not have been approached via the company’s official resources themselves. However, the 1.1 million requested for the house was being requested through company connections. Does that make sense?"

Yeah, that was another thing that I didn't understand. If Farmer was allegedly trying to get them to do a dirty deed against you. It would seem that he would have to pay them. So I don't know why their company would need to pay his campaign 1.1m? It all seems pretty tangled up, maybe there's just more to it that I'm not seeing. I think I've read most of your posts on this. Why would Farmer (if he done it) need money from them, if they were the ones allegedly providing a service? Unless they had multiple different levels on which they did or do business with him?

They are a popular company and credible company to me. So it seems unlikely that they would be involved in the type of activity that the grey hat is involved in.

White hat. And yes, I clarified this above. This would not have been done “officially.”

The request for money (1.1 mil) to be sent to the PAC was made to the company/company’s banking connections, however.

I doubt they really work for Check Point as the report seems to indicate.

They did/do.

Seems almost equally as shady as the type of stuff that Farmer allegedly tried to get them to do.

Well, they work/worked for Check Point. And exposing actual financial malfeasance is hardly as “shady” as threatening to ruin someone’s life.

What I don't understand is why would their company owe Farmer 1.1m?

When I said shady, it sounded to me that that's what the white/grey hat does for a living is destroys people? Did I assess that part incorrectly? Or are they like a moral hacker who only destroys people who deserve it in exchange for money?

They didn’t. Farmer allegedly requested it for a “campaign house”

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Ugh, this is all too deep and muddled for me. It sounds like something worthy of writing an in depth and detailed post around. I've got only so many pieces of the puzzle and haven't connected enough together to see a clear image of what is what.

It's almost as if the white hat is like a hacker for hire and had a very close relationship with these people. Am I at least understanding that part correctly? If so, does that close relationship entail a whole lot more than all of those bullet points that you detailed in your previous post. Like going into the realm of financial stuff too?

This is all very cloak and dagger and reminds me of a video game called uplink. In the game you play the role of a hacker and accept or deny jobs based on your ethics. The game was put out in 2001 and based on the internet of the 80's. Now, I'm starting to think it was way more reality based than I initially thought. It's probably happening all the time behind the scenes.

The game sounds fun!

I have just clarified with the source. Let me do my best to demystify this as much as possible, without compromising anyone's security:


  • The infosec professional would NOT have been acting in an official capacity with Check Point to doxx me, etc.

  • The individual may or may not work with Check Point currently, but has connections with much larger firms as well.

  • The proposal for the questionable channeling of funds, however, was to be done through official channels, which is why this association never materialized and a large part of the reason reports were filed.


I hope that helps a bit. The individual works in high echelons of power/clout and as such was surprised to discover the "nefarious" target was just a blogger, and not the monster I was made out to be.

Also, as an aside, the silence from @BenFarmer and the campaign raises big red flags. If someone spoofed your number, wouldn't you want to know, and remedy that immediately? Irreparable social damage can be done with this capability.

It's a super fun game and only like 10
bucks on steam, the music is the best!
Thanks, that does clarify quite a bit &
hope it all works out well for you. I still
remain agnostic on it, yet the info you
have given does help to paint a clearer
picture than the one I had before. Yep,
I would want to know! Question is can
he find that out from you or your white
hat friend? Because if it is the whitehat
doing the spoofing. If it was spoofing..
There's no way that-that person would
reveal themselves as the guilty party.

No money was exchanged. Whether it would have been is uncertain. The hacker does not do this stuff “officially”

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