Analysis: Disinformation and Infiltration on Steemit #1

in #analysis6 years ago

No pictures this time unless you count the links. Readers only for this one. If you don't like to read, maybe the internet isn't for you.


There are Four(4) facts that I'm going to rely upon in order to find the way to the truth at the bottom of the story here. So much new information has come to light, now what is buried has come up to the surface as if on its own volition.

If any of these 4 facts is too difficult to believe, then maybe don't waste your time ever attempting to interact with me because I am going to make fun of you or just disengage completely. With this knowledge, a thousand, maybe even millions of lies will be uncovered.

  1. Fox Nooz(tm) is the least credible organization on the planet Earth and has the interest of not a single American at heart, and never has. The wealthy people who operate this channel are traitorous predators of the lowest order, and the highest bidder will simply get to say whatever they want on this channel. Credible people do not appear on this TeeVee Channel, and if they do it is to be openly mocked and alienated from their friends.

  2. Donald Truump(tm) owes a huge amount of money to various Russian banks. I knew this before he was president, I knew it during the election and wondered why no one brought it up, and I know it now even though Fox Nooz(tm) is trying to tell me that Trumps relationship is just a normal traitorous one like the one he has with Israel.(https://archive.fo/4s9Yc https://archive.fo/SG9Md Debunking website: In the end, it’s clear that Donald Trump had a close business relationship with Bayrock, which relied on investors from Kazakhstan and Russia to finance Trump projects....)

  3. Due to my first hand experience Actually Going There on the first day of the event, and numerous other encounters, I know beyond any doubt that 1. The National Rainbow Gathering is filled with dozens if not hundreds of undercover agents pretending to be hippies and hoboes. (including Instant Soup, Shining Light(yes Lucid), The Constant Bowl and Casual Encounters) 2. They distribute date rape drugs that they say is 'acid' and then bait people into crimes, i.e. to see if they will make sexual advances on underage people or become aggressive, and to study them(us)(me) for general surveillance, or who knows what. Anyone who overlooks the undercover presence in any of their analysis of this event is either an idiot or actual police, there is no middle ground there(ahem, this will be important) It is actually fairly obvious and I was pretty gullible, and I do not intend to be again. Realizing you are at a party and you're the only one there that isn't a cop Sucks. Do not go to the rainbow gatherings and don't believe anyone who claims it's an example of anarchy in action.

  4. I had at least 50 separate experiences with undercover police engaging me while I travelled in Washington and Oregon USA between June 2017 and December 2017. It was very weird, it was sometimes frightening, it was generally awkward. I had no criminal plans, I was just looking for jobs and trying to enjoy the national parks while I collected unemployment. I am not a saint but I have never been charged or arrested for anything, and I actually am not a criminal(gasp). I even confirmed I'm not on the Reuters-Thompson global danger list. I have no idea why police would think I'm going to go loco on some townsfolk, to me it's totally nuts. But if it can happen to me then it can happen to a lot of people, and undercover police surveillance, gestapo/kgb style is going to be a theme now in American life. That is what Total Information Awareness means. I said it when they first announced it, and now I am telling you what it really means. I just write things on the internet, I do not have the hackz, I was not one of the alphabay admins, I just have written a lot about geopolitics and against zionistic influence in the united states. I have also obviously researched the elite child abuse networks, but they wouldn't care about that would they? Infiltration of undercovers and recognition of their operations is ESSENTIAL to any actual attempt at Freedom from powers that orchestrate this crap. As such I take fake anarchists and infiltrators very seriously and can not just be casual about it. They are not just looking for the bad guys, they are spying for the Epsteins and Strategic Foreskins of the world.


Relevant Things I Know Well

A. American History(AP student, I read a lot of history and take it very seriously.)
B. Computers and Networking(5 years of coursework, 15 year career, 4 certs, grew up with them from the apple 2e, performed many feats of great wonder, saved many days)
C. Anarchy(my personal belief system, influenced heavily by Chomsky, Rawls, Crimethinc Ex Workers Collective, Goodman, Maximum Ultraism)
D. Drama(acting, comedy, screenwriting, storytelling, improvisation(but why is this relevant? Undercovers are like bad improv and bad writers, they stand out like sore thumbs if you have been to even a few classes. Everything they do is generic and could be easily reproduced)


This is now the only sequence of events regarding wikileaks/russia/trump that has any reasonable backbone whatsoever:

-After the strange events of October 2016 when the internet was cut off, Assange2 suddenly appeared(via video link) on Fox Nooz with known disinfo Agent Sean Hannity and the DNC leaks became the october surprise that swung the election to Trump. No one can explain to me why Fox would be the only one to take the interview or why Fox would take the interview all of a sudden of the biggest unamerican threat to security etc etc, or why Assange would ruin his reputation with the entire left wing of the united states. His response that it was the way to get the most views simply does not hold water. And since Wikileaks, even as stated by voices of previous allies, has simply been anti DNC and anti CIA without a single Russian or Trump leak to speak of. Wikileaks has no credibilty except for Russian propaganda. Equador is now revealed to have been a Russian client state the entire time, only somewhat masked by this glowing article: https://www.rt.com/usa/correa-assange-us-latin-318/

-Fox news pivoted from a 20 year long 'Russia is bad' stance to a 'Russia is actually pretty cool' stance, as if overnight after the Trump election. Also Trump was suddenly seen as presidential, and his moral failures and stupidity were imminently forgiveable, especially compared to Hillary.

-The Trump-Russia-Wikileaks ring also began a huge disinformation campaign across all forms of social media. It became difficult even on Reddit, a known zionist fortress, to even encounter Truump voters in their fortress of censorship, and some highly automated and motivated(by day job money) posters began to spam zerohedge and yournewswire articles that were 1. apologetic of trump and 2. wanted to 'go after' Hillary and 'purge' the fbi and deep state

-A handful of other sites appeared, highly upvoted on the frontpage of a sub I lurk in for all manner of information(r/conspiracy and there are definitely things to find dangling at the bottom near the drain in the swirling whirlpool of highly curated machine-upvoted lies over there): Mintpressnews.com, Activistpost.com, Antimedia.com, and TheFreeThoughtProject.com . These sites frequently had correct information highly critical of the American system, that I generally agreed with. I always wondered though, who has the time and money to operate these news sources? Who are all these journalists with headshots and 3 articles and a facebork profile, but nothing else of substance? Why do they only repost old stories reeported elsewhere? Why don't they have any actual reporters, just people who film themselves interviewing people who are actually doing things? Why is nothing they say ever actually a breaking story or really that significant?

-Since I came to steemit, I have been wondering about 1. is steemit run by cops 2. are there undercover profiles on here infiltrating all anarchism and everything else? 3. and if there are, how can i ruin their day?

-First, some things stood out to me about The Conscious Resistance. I wrote about it a few blog posts ago in great detail, listing a dozen or so things about them that just don't add up and it also contains most of their many attempts to make the issue about me. How I feel entitled to answers for my questions, how I wasn't polite enough, how I need to do some drugs to chill out. Dismissive, evasive, accusatory, they are all around thin-skinned manipulative turds and absolutely not anarchists or activists trying to share a message. And this bad attitude from some guy with a website showing a drawing of him meditating at the top of it, and who has tatoos! And who wrote a book on spirituality and anarchy! Like my questions are really pissing him off lol. And of course his followers like damon555 who claim they actually control his account, and who parrot things the great leader writes about. What a joke. Whatever this org is, it is not american anarchists.

-There is a pattern you will notice with all of these names of orgs, they are actual backhanded insults to everyone who doesn't join them. Or they are outright nonsensical. Like who is the UnConscious Resistance, @Dbroze? Like, how do you make a website that is Anti-Media? How do you have a website for all Activists of All Kinds? The Free Thought Project is just insulting to everyone else, like every other project isn't free thought? And Mintpress news, that says nothing at all to me. The Minnesoda news would be way more credible but then why is this Minnesoda news outlet covering Syria and being accused of making stuff up on their Wikipedia page? And why do all of these sites have the same pattern and why is it so hard to find out what is really going on with them?

-Enter @kennyskitchen, the anarchist vegan crypto anarchapulco-visiting speech-giving, every day talking head, and wouldn't you know Rainbow Gathering 2017 ATTENDEE! So certainly he would have noticed the overwhelming undercover presence from Fact #3 right? Nope. Gosh the cops just kindof walk buy he says in Point 5: https://archive.fo/cuEB0 that the cops just kindof walk by and everyone shouts 'cops coming' and everything is chill. Nothing to see here folks. And then he comes to my blog to defend @dbroze, who he has HAD BEERS WITH, whoa, so he would DIE FOR @dbroze, and he says that anarchy is just what was it again: "Everyone does what they want as long as nobody gets hurt" which is NOT a definition of anarchy, AT ALL. But he is big at anarchapulco and gives talks! Yes, cops do this shit. They love to go to aculpulco for work.

-Kenny thanks @jeffberwick, oh certainly he can be trusted right? https://archive.fo/hJnAI https://archive.fo/XHIRt Well I guess not...he's into passport fraud and his only TV appearances are on Fox Nooz, which speaks in the OPPOSITE direction of his credibility. WTF is this guy doing hosting anarchist events? (and everyone who has been reading my blog knows I find anarchy and capitalism incompatible, as the nature of a system based on who has the most money(like steemit....) is just a system of organized bullying. Which is not to say there can be no capitalism in an anarchical system, but rather that the anarchical nature of the system will be its center, and the money will always be subjugated to cooperative forms of interaction..ok...back to topic...)


-Then comes Disobedient Media to the picture. Suzie3d outright calls me 'Nasty' rather than answer some basic questions about the nature of the police harassment that has her seeking asylum in Russia? Why Russia? And her story has basically only been covered at all, besides a single Huffpo article(which means nothing at this point btw), by Disobedient Media. Elizabethvos(zerohedge poster) is her big proponent here on steemit, who also reacted to basic questions about the nature of their org with hostility and 'how dare you' etc etc. Today her Big Story is the Korean presidential cult, which is a MONTHS OLD STORY that she has done ZERO first hand reporting on. (38 upvotes, check out @almosthuman who seems to have an obsession since jan 2018 with @caitlinjohnstone who is also a member of this group of disinfo agents btw)

-Who is the editor of Disobedient Media now? William Craddick, another known/admitted poster on Zerohedge and then this gem from r/T_D:
https://archive.fo/J5fDg

(for the record, I don't really mind something like Zerohedge where it is just kindof known they are russian media, or RT for that matter. Russia gets to have a say and a viewpoint. What I don't like is people pretending to be and infiltrating american movements, as this makes it impossible for the american system to work, and is ultimately repressive and authoritarian in nature, as well as inherently unamerican to the point of outright treachery. )

-So we have Suzie3d seeking asylum for a story that she only posted on facebork(and whose homepage and interview pages are both offline, while she stirs sh(t) on twitter0, ms vos who posts to zero hedge and refused to admit that all of her anti-trump posts are actually pro trump posts simply saying Hillary is worse AND that all of the 'collusion' ALL OF IT, is a made up story(remember fact #2 from the beginning, I told you we would need it), AND yet another editor who posts to zerohedge and actually gets shill upvotes on T_D which is the most censored nexus of utter bullshit in the entire world.

-And These Three(Suzie, Vos, Craddick) want me to believe they have a new Tech Guy, Adam Carter(tm) who today just got $300 worth of upvotes for just saying hi and GUESS WHAT his ONLY TWO articles are on disobedient media: Blatant Denials of Fact #2 by way of elaborate analysis of fancybear/crowdstrike/fusion/steeldossier whateverTF.


-Then there is V4Vapid, who I have to note posts very little of his own ideas. I won some sbd in a contest of his and have received a few upvotes which was nice, but he is noticeably absent when I call out obvious dangers to the community, in the form of imposters, fake anarchists, which are the most dangerous kind actually. He has resteemed several of Suzie3d's and several of ms vos's weak, really, weak uninformative posts. And I guess I might not notice that as much if he has resteemed a single one of mine, which by any objective assessment are more critical than anything they have had to say at all. I also notice a general 'Russiagate didn't happen' tone to everything V4vapid posts/resteemed as well, and of course his love of @caitlinjohntone.

-So I asked V4vapid in a comment and he replied with a single picked out criticism of ME, yes, I am the one acting weird because I called @dbroze a shite once when I had realized what he really was. When I came back with 'is that the only thing in this entire business that looks off to you?' and he has still not responded.

https://steemd.com/@v4vapid that's a lot of SP to have from the very beginning.

What more answer do I need though? Law #1 of recognizing cops, he made it all about me. And he, if it is a he, or a single person, is resteeming a steaming crapload of disinformation as if he goes out looking only for it.


So if Suzie3d is the current leader of the internet party started by Kim Dot Com, and if she constantly reposts Assange and Snowden information that isn't news and is obviously being super-sketchy about her background, this makes me wonder about Kim Dot Com. Snowden doesn't really matter anymore all that much to me, I think Suzie3d would repost Snowden leaks that are 3 years old even if Snowden was an actual patriotic American and not an infiltrator. I've always wondered about Kim Dot Com, he just stirs the pot and makes the United States look bad in ways I usually agree with, oddly. But now that I know Suzie3d is disinfo, now I know he is as well. Easy call.


What is Russia Trying to do? Why do they pay for all this crap and cause all this mess?

I think for some revenge from the 90s, so I'm not especially upset about it if it is the Russians. But I'm going to call out disinformation and sybil/circlej attacks either way, no matter who it is, no matter why.

The writer's job is to the reader, the reader just wants to know the Truth Now.

But I wonder also if it is part Trump's FBI/CIA initiatives, stirring the pot, making it difficult to criticize the president, etc etc. Plus also the constant anarchist infiltration which everyone knows has been going on for over a Century.

Russia wants to break up NATO. Obviously.

NATO officials state this openly on their own propaganda network:
https://www.voanews.com/a/nato-officials-russian-fake-news-seeks-undermine-alliance/3729410.html

It is in Russian textbooks even and it has been talked about for decades now, this is what Putin wants. It wants Truump to isolate the United States, make the population more divided, and in general appear weak. And all this while Trummp thinks he's like, so awesome. Bankrupt, ashamed, tangled, collapsing economy, the next president will have a huge mess to deal with.

With the United States no longer in Nato, and with Turkey allied witwh Russia, well then. The United States would be on the defensive, isolated, weak.

The question is, does Europe want the assurance that if Turkey or Russia invades, or if Russia invades the Ukraine, that they will be ok without the assurance of America's supporting declaration of war?


I just don't quite understand how the Russian Propaganda of Suzie/Disobedient goes so hand in hand with TheConsciousResistance/Kenny and how @V4vapid and his giant primordial whalepile connect them together.

Kenny and dbroze I know are cops, they simply could not do what they do without noticing infiltration. Suzie and disobedient I know is russian disinfo....hmmmmm.

Or is this an american psy-op trying to infiltrate russian pro-trump propaganda? That seems unlikely to be something trump would have funded. Mossad could be doing this, they infiltrate every f*&ng thing but I don't see any angle in this.

So what are you up to @v4vapid? Why so many shitty lying friends of differing stripes who seem to want to watch Trrmp bring the USA down in flames while Russians laugh? Why do you resteem such crap media and masquerading propagandists? Why if you don't agree with my posts do you not say something? I invite all comments....


As previously stated, I will continue asking questions until I don't have any more of them, or I am dead. You may be able to answer one or many of my questions, but I dare you to tell me they are not fair and reasonable questions.

Also, the United States Government is distributing date-rape/truth serum drugs at festivals and then using them to entrap people and investigate them. That should be a fucking headline all across the entire world. I will never be able to unknow that and I will never shut up about it.


Open to all comments and questions(because I am not afraid of mere words), let's discuss!

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Either do some more drugs, or stop taking so many drugs because at the moment you just sound like you're butt hurt about something.

If you're going to be calling out fellow steemians you should really back it up with some hard evidence otherwise you're the one that ends up looking like a disinfo agent.

Just because people don't agree with you or your posts it doesn't mean they are cops or working for the Kremlin. It simply means people have a different opinion to you. You don't see me writing a post moaning about how you're a butt hurt disinfo agent do you? No. that's because I'm adult enough to simply ignore you where possible.

I hope you can find a community here that will except your views and opinions so you don't have to go around like a lost dog hating on others.

Peace out.

You should have read point number 1, disinfo agents will always make it about those accusing them.

@dbroze's boy 'damon' also said I should do more drugs just like you. Actually I write all of my posts sober.

I wonder if you know how to read actually, because I am in no way saying that I believe they are disinfo because I disagree with them. I am saying they, and you now, are disinfo becaues your statements fit a pattern that is deceptive and only makes discussing the issues more difficult.

And in generaly, the topics you choose are ones that fit the zerohedge school of politics where every criticism of america is welcome, and no criticisms of trump are welcome. And where anyone who points this out is to be ostracized and gets their character attacked.

How can you not see that? (at this point it's a rhetorical question, you have well revealed what you are by your inability to address basic inquiries and observations, as in, you reject all of the things I point out and just want to talk about me personally and how butt hurt I may or may not be.)

Again, the pattern [ignore issue] -> [attack character of person who is asking questions outside the narrative] -> [defend trump, russia isn't interfering in the united states] -> [resteem people who only post the same crap] -> [repeat]

lol. I'll be honest I never paid much attention to you until today. And I certainly didn't know you felt this way until I read this post. It would seem from your attitude that you've already made up your mind so there is no point in me or anyone else trying to rebut your claims. May I suggest that you'll enjoy Steemit a lot more if you just get on and post what ever you want to post and don't get stuck up on what everyone else is doing.

If you don't like certain posts then don't read or interact with them. Go and make some friends with some people that are on the same wavelength as you. You'll enjoy Steemit a lot more.

Peace out.

I have been watching this play out... I sort of have a policy of the reverse of Reagan's maxim about "trust" -- Instead of "Trust. But Verify" -- My position is "be suspicious... but try to give the benefit of the doubt". I had some weird experiences here in Canada with surveillance and the State. If you google CSIS and First Nations Splinter Group, you will see why. I belonged to a First Nation that asserted that we had never given up our sovereignty since no Treaty had ever been signed and as such our sovereignty was still intact... I was the communications point person in this group. The spooks were on me.... That's a fact. Their own reports said as much. I only ever saw direct evidence of it once... But that was enough for me. Knowing that it could happen, and that it had happened, was enough to make me cautious about what COULD be happening without my being aware of it... And then, quite aside from all THAT kind of political activism, I think I ended up on some other watch lists because of my involvement with the attempt to create a Data Haven Co-Location on my Indian reserve for Sealand.. (just google "sealand wired data haven") -- anyways... that's all neither here nor there. I just want to emphasize that I do believe in spooks... and I do believe in the surveillance state being a sinister force that 99.99% of the population is completely unaware of... THAT being said - The main thing I see that has happened between you and V2V is he does not agree with you about some things and you have taken that as proof he's probably suspicious. I have to be honest and say... running head long into a complex network of people and yelling and pointing fingers saying "She's a spook and he's a spook... and they're spooks too... and fuck you if you don't agree with me, that likely means YOU are a spook also". Do you follow me here? I come from a tradition of security culture... which means EVEN IF YOU THINK SOMEBODY IS A SPOOK -- UNLESS YOU HAVE ACTUAL TANGIBLE CONCRETE PROOF, running around and calling people out for being spooky is counterproductive. Why? Because even if they are spooks, it's not like they are going to admit it. AND Once you have alerted them to the fact that you think they are spooky... and will make no bones about calling them out for being spooks... they only have one way to deal with you... which is to ignore you and marginalize you and do what they can to limit your influence in the social network. The other thing I learned from spending 3 years on the alt.current-events.clinton-whitewater usenet group back in the 1990's where there were absolutely spooks, fbi, secret service, ex CIA, and all manner of political operatives -- (I was there to circulate as much information as I possibly could about the crimes and perfidy of the Clinton Crime Syndicate) -- Anyways... what I learned was this -- (this was a conclusion that the cyberwarriors of that era learned intimately...) At a certain point, it sometimes does not matter IF somebody is actually a spook or not... ALL that matters is 1. How good is their info 2. Are they a net positive to the purpose of the group, or are they distracting from the purpose of the group.... WHat we observed was that there were sometimes people who would show up in the trenches of this cyberwarfare who even IF they had the very best intentions involved... if their behavior was disruptive it did not matter whether they were a spook or not... because THE RESULT WAS JUST THE SAME AS IF THEY WERE... Do you follow me? Now... here's where I sit on this whole scene.. watching this play out. YOU - Mindhawk... you have posted VERY VERY VERY good information. If you are a spook, you would be getting into trouble for posting the info you have done on the privacy workshops. Hence, I conclude.. especially since you have committed that information to the blockchain... forever and ever... amen. So... what do I conclude? I conclude, you are not a spook... and you are NOT a disinfo agent. I will keep following you and reading you because I value the information you have posted. The info you have posted is invaluable. But this other stuff.... well -- shit man... I think you and I would need to have a lot more trust between us, and a little bit of privacy before I think it's even a good idea for me to comment on this other stuff. Suffice it to say this... I have not made up my mind. I first heard about Suzi because of the tiff she got into with Barrett Brown. I've been trying for 6 months to get Barrett here on Steemit. He only just friended me on facebook a month or so ago. Anyways -- he got into some beef with suzie -- because Barrett was critical of Julian Assange... I have to be honest... the first article I read of hers here -- made my spidey sense tingle. I felt like there was something just "off" about it. Nothing tangible. But I agree with you that the claims about the FBI harrassing her in New Zealand has not been vetted enough and some of the descriptions that I have heard or read that she's described .... well.. I don't know what to make of them. I think she thinks they happened. And I will be honest with you. I am convinced that YOU believe that all the cop infilitration you have spoken about here, happened. To your credit you have been a lot more honest and open about it than Suzie has been about what she claimed happened to her. I believe your accounts of what happened to you, more than I believe 80% of what she's described as having happened to her. And this is only because when I had similar experiences years ago -- the surveillance/disruption techniques were subtle... I was never harrassed by the State... only surveilled with a minimal amount of disruption that was done in such a subtle way that it could very easily be explained away with loads of plausible deniability. In short -- I don't think the pros at this are as easy to spot as you make them out to be... IF they are pros. It could be that in the 18 years that has gone by since I experienced this kind of thing that the spooks have gotten a lot more sloppy and stupid... but I just don't know. And to be honest -- I don't want to find out. I really do not want a target on my back for this kind of thing... especially if it really is as pervasive as you are claiming it all is now. I really wonder what Barrett Brown would make of all this... There's a dude that knows a little something about the behavior of Spooks in a verifiable quantifiable way. Anyways... I'm trying to be as careful and kind and gentle with you as I possibly can... because I do like your stuff and I do want you to keep posting more privacy related info.... and I think you are a valuable part of this network. Here's my TL:DR -- I think you sometimes need to consider, just the possibility that it IS entirely within the realm of probability that people can disagree with you, and that this doesn't make them spooks. I can see why if the experiences you have had have made you a little over-sensitive to this... AND I am perfectly willing to concede that I could very well be the one in error here. Maybe this place on steemit IS really crawling with spooks... I just have not seen the evidence that convinced me that the problem is quite as bad as you've laid it out. But I could be wrong... So here we be. Trust - but verify AND Be Suspicious but try to give the benefit of the doubt. I'm doing that for AS many people as I can... I hope that's good enough for you. Cheers mate.

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wow. this is way above my head in all directions but I smell BS. You make very valid points in the way you compare (dis)information and you made a strong argument.. liars (no matter what kind or for what reason) always mirror their guilt, lies and feelings onto those they accuse as well as twist the line of fire as far away from their own actions as possible..
As soon as the accused liar begins shifting away from defending facts with facts and moves into attacking the questioner.. well you know they're hiding something.
I don't know who any of these people are except Jeff Berwick (obviously I live under a rock LOL but I have stumbled onto his videos and I generally thought I liked what he was saying) with that said I've never taken the time to dive deep into anything said or he's done more than the quick videos I've seen. So thank you for digging around in the garbage for these types of slip ups and give aways.

I loved this:

Since I came to steemit, I have been wondering about 1. is steemit run by cops 2. are there undercover profiles on here infiltrating all anarchism and everything else? 3. and if there are, how can i ruin their day?

:)

keep working through privacy workshop, and the Truth Now post, that is where the good information and links to people smarter than me are. It is a workshop in the sense that it is not meant to be read, it is a train of thought meant to be experienced, you have to click on the archived links and see for yourself.

Not a single one of the people who I accuse of not being for real have done that as much as you already have. They know me and people like me, that one way to really bother me is to pretend that all of my work doesn't even exist, that my ideas are summarily invalid. They play these games.

By their fruits ye shall know them, my writing stands for itself, I know what I'm doing and writing and I mean what I say. It is not a game, there are real people being hurt badly while government agents distract and divide everyone and I've had enough of it.

sunlight is the best disinfectant etc. don't be a stranger :)

thanks!! I'm definitely putting those workshops at the top of my "to-do" list. I love that they're meant to be interactive and allow people to learn these things for themselves. I can already tell this is going to keep me busy for a while!

let me know if you have any questions, part of the workshop aspect is following the links and interacting with the posts themselves, adding links or questioning them.

someone compared privacy workshop to a doctoral thesis, i think it goes beyond that. it is not schoolwork and it is not submitted to any institution, it is submitted to individuals to help them live in a more accurate world. you can't have any privacy if you don't who or what to trust, ie if you should have an alexa or trust amazon. it's about research methods and what credibility means as much as any one piece of knowledge, as there is never an end point to understanding the world in which you live. there is a crisis at the moment where people don't have the guts to even ask the questions they are so intimidated by the power structures towering over them.

got to fight that, down the road of ignorance and post-truth is no world in which i would want to raise a child.

you bring up such a crucial point - the people have no idea which companies to trust or who owns who, who's selling info and who is not. Even the "truthers" are infiltrated as you brought up so whwre do we even get the real info? Sadly most people are looking just for someone to tell them who to trust - they do not want to do their own research. It's very sad and concerning for the future

indeed.

Well, even if everyone on earth is telling me it's a good idea to be ignorant, I will still not be convinced.

But I will not sire a child onto a doomed planet. The problem I believe is that more children are being born than can possibly be educated in a system so complex. So the people who are at the top are like 'well if you want to have x number of babies a year well then in order for us to manage all of that, the best way is for you all to be ignorant sheep'

I reject that. The promise of the internet was that everyone could access the information to educate themselves, not that everyone could access anti-information to make them more ignorant.

Even I am the last one writing rational and reasonable posts on the internet, and believe me this is how it feels almost all of the time, then I am going to do it.

Ignorance is not strength, freedom is not slavery, war is not peace.

Courage is the virtue that makes all the others possible.

Courage is the virtue that makes all the others possible.

seriously!!

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I have been watching this play out... I sort of have a policy of the reverse of Reagan's maxim about "trust" -- Instead of "Trust. But Verify" -- My position is "be suspicious... but try to give the benefit of the doubt". I had some weird experiences here in Canada with surveillance and the State. If you google CSIS and First Nations Splinter Group, you will see why. I belonged to a First Nation that asserted that we had never given up our sovereignty since no Treaty had ever been signed and as such our sovereignty was still intact... I was the communications point person in this group. The spooks were on me.... That's a fact. Their own reports said as much. I only ever saw direct evidence of it once... But that was enough for me. Knowing that it could happen, and that it had happened, was enough to make me cautious about what COULD be happening without my being aware of it... And then, quite aside from all THAT kind of political activism, I think I ended up on some other watch lists because of my involvement with the attempt to create a Data Haven Co-Location on my Indian reserve for Sealand.. (just google "sealand wired data haven") -- anyways... that's all neither here nor there. I just want to emphasize that I do believe in spooks... and I do believe in the surveillance state being a sinister force that 99.99% of the population is completely unaware of... THAT being said - The main thing I see that has happened between you and V2V is he does not agree with you about some things and you have taken that as proof he's probably suspicious. I have to be honest and say... running head long into a complex network of people and yelling and pointing fingers saying "She's a spook and he's a spook... and they're spooks too... and fuck you if you don't agree with me, that likely means YOU are a spook also". Do you follow me here? I come from a tradition of security culture... which means EVEN IF YOU THINK SOMEBODY IS A SPOOK -- UNLESS YOU HAVE ACTUAL TANGIBLE CONCRETE PROOF, running around and calling people out for being spooky is counterproductive. Why? Because even if they are spooks, it's not like they are going to admit it. AND Once you have alerted them to the fact that you think they are spooky... and will make no bones about calling them out for being spooks... they only have one way to deal with you... which is to ignore you and marginalize you and do what they can to limit your influence in the social network. The other thing I learned from spending 3 years on the alt.current-events.clinton-whitewater usenet group back in the 1990's where there were absolutely spooks, fbi, secret service, ex CIA, and all manner of political operatives -- (I was there to circulate as much information as I possibly could about the crimes and perfidy of the Clinton Crime Syndicate) -- Anyways... what I learned was this -- (this was a conclusion that the cyberwarriors of that era learned intimately...) At a certain point, it sometimes does not matter IF somebody is actually a spook or not... ALL that matters is 1. How good is their info 2. Are they a net positive to the purpose of the group, or are they distracting from the purpose of the group.... WHat we observed was that there were sometimes people who would show up in the trenches of this cyberwarfare who even IF they had the very best intentions involved... if their behavior was disruptive it did not matter whether they were a spook or not... because THE RESULT WAS JUST THE SAME AS IF THEY WERE... Do you follow me? Now... here's where I sit on this whole scene.. watching this play out. YOU - Mindhawk... you have posted VERY VERY VERY good information. If you are a spook, you would be getting into trouble for posting the info you have done on the privacy workshops. Hence, I conclude.. especially since you have committed that information to the blockchain... forever and ever... amen. So... what do I conclude? I conclude, you are not a spook... and you are NOT a disinfo agent. I will keep following you and reading you because I value the information you have posted. The info you have posted is invaluable. But this other stuff.... well -- shit man... I think you and I would need to have a lot more trust between us, and a little bit of privacy before I think it's even a good idea for me to comment on this other stuff. Suffice it to say this... I have not made up my mind. I first heard about Suzi because of the tiff she got into with Barrett Brown. I've been trying for 6 months to get Barrett here on Steemit. He only just friended me on facebook a month or so ago. Anyways -- he got into some beef with suzie -- because Barrett was critical of Julian Assange... I have to be honest... the first article I read of hers here -- made my spidey sense tingle. I felt like there was something just "off" about it. Nothing tangible. But I agree with you that the claims about the FBI harrassing her in New Zealand has not been vetted enough and some of the descriptions that I have heard or read that she's described .... well.. I don't know what to make of them. I think she thinks they happened. And I will be honest with you. I am convinced that YOU believe that all the cop infilitration you have spoken about here, happened. To your credit you have been a lot more honest and open about it than Suzie has been about what she claimed happened to her. I believe your accounts of what happened to you, more than I believe 80% of what she's described as having happened to her. And this is only because when I had similar experiences years ago -- the surveillance/disruption techniques were subtle... I was never harrassed by the State... only surveilled with a minimal amount of disruption that was done in such a subtle way that it could very easily be explained away with loads of plausible deniability. In short -- I don't think the pros at this are as easy to spot as you make them out to be... IF they are pros. It could be that in the 18 years that has gone by since I experienced this kind of thing that the spooks have gotten a lot more sloppy and stupid... but I just don't know. And to be honest -- I don't want to find out. I really do not want a target on my back for this kind of thing... especially if it really is as pervasive as you are claiming it all is now. I really wonder what Barrett Brown would make of all this... There's a dude that knows a little something about the behavior of Spooks in a verifiable quantifiable way. Anyways... I'm trying to be as careful and kind and gentle with you as I possibly can... because I do like your stuff and I do want you to keep posting more privacy related info.... and I think you are a valuable part of this network. Here's my TL:DR -- I think you sometimes need to consider, just the possibility that it IS entirely within the realm of probability that people can disagree with you, and that this doesn't make them spooks. I can see why if the experiences you have had have made you a little over-sensitive to this... AND I am perfectly willing to concede that I could very well be the one in error here. Maybe this place on steemit IS really crawling with spooks... I just have not seen the evidence that convinced me that the problem is quite as bad as you've laid it out. But I could be wrong... So here we be. Trust - but verify AND Be Suspicious but try to give the benefit of the doubt. I'm doing that for AS many people as I can... I hope that's good enough for you. Cheers mate.

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