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RE: Can male allies have a place in safe spaces for women?

I am quite aware of her stance, as it has been uttered many times before. I have heard many arguments for and against it.

You said it yourself

I understand how frustrating and confusing it can be to feel like the rules are changing and it’s not exactly clear what they are,

This is crazy making. This is something that CANNOT be done. To do so will drive you insane. To put forth an argument for crazy making should be laughed at. But it is being taken seriously. Thus, society is being destroyed.

Further, my above statement is a warning.
Feminists complain all the time about how few female CEOs there are.
But most won't acknowledge

  • The epidemic of male suicides
  • The 99% of work deaths are male.
  • 99% of the jobs that need to be done to keep the lights and heat on are done by men.

(and the list goes on)

However, what these women really miss is that there is a large group of men who are just walking away. Ghosting. The very men you need to keep the lights and heat on.

Men are leaving college because the environment is so hostile towards them. The men who are staying are keeping their heads down and NEVER talking to women.

In the business world men are recording every conversation with women, because the threat of HR is all too real. The do not talk to women unless they need to.

Women have invaded every male space and destroyed it.

These are all facts. Not disputable. And, I am sure that I will be ridiculed here for bringing up such childish stuff. That I should man up.

If anyone needs a safe space it is men.

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The safe space that men need is not one protected from feminists and women. Men need safe spaces protected from other men, from the deep lifelong indoctrination we receive that it’s dangerous and never OK to have or express feelings other than anger. It’s not your or my fault that we turn every emotion to anger because it’s the only one that feels permissible, but it is our responsibility to work to recognize when we perpetuate the environment that makes it impossible for others to express anything else.

Want facts? Being ostracized is the most painful thing a human being can experience. Feeling ‘not welcome’ can feel worse than a broken leg, as measured by your body’s physiological responses.

When you have been made unwelcome, anger is the response least likely to get you your welcome back. But it is the one you’re guaranteed to make. Why? It’s the only one you’re allowed to have. Not by women, but by your own internal emotion police, who have been put there by every man you’ve interacted with in your life, but most likely especially your father and your childhood friends.

All those men you cite leaving the workforce, committing suicide, checking out, etc. this is not women’s fault. This is the fault of toxic masculinity - what we are taught that connecting with other men emotionally is gay and weak and never allowed, that having any emotion but anger is gay and weak and never allowed.

And this is exactly why women need safe spaces from men - because men lean on women exclusively for their emotional needs, because we conflate sexual gratification with emotional gratification, and because when anything is wrong we can only express it with anger.

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