HF21 and Proposed Steem Discussion Forum
I'm sure many users might not even be aware of the upcoming HF21, the discovery on Steemit.com is not quite geared for ongoing discussion, but rather for popup blog posts that are gone into the ether after 7 days. Only boosted posts and opinions become visible so a well rounded and properly archived discussion channel doesn't currently exist for discussing and making public the views of witnesses and stakeholders who currently discuss matters across fragmented channels which don't receive much external community feedback.
There is some great discussion regarding HF21 happening on these posts for those who are interested to know more:
https://steemit.com/hf21/@timcliff/hardfork-21-steem-proposal-system-sps-economic-improvement-proposal-eip
https://steemit.com/dtube/@exyle/d78ih4x3
(At the end of this post I will provide my thoughts on HF21)
The main purpose of this post, however is to propose a Steem powered forum for stakeholders, witnesses and developers to be able to engage the public with meaningful rolling discussions recorded on-chain and viewable in a collated Bulletin Board format for perpetual discovery.
The proposed forum technology is @tokenbb, which has been developed by BuildTeam, a trusted name in the Steem community since 2017. Pilot forums can be seen at https://monsters.tokenbb.io and https://drugwars.tokenbb.io which serve as examples of what is possible.
BuildTeam will provide a vanilla forum which we can then be tailored and evolve as per the will of the community, we would also like to appeal to community UI designers to submit proposals for the design of the forum, initially, it will start with the vanilla night theme as can be seen on https://test.tokenbb.io.
All discussions are stored on-chain under the @forums.tokenbb Steem account, each forum is created as a post and all threaded content is handled as comments, so no content is centralised and always discoverable even without TokenBB. You can be assured that BuildTeam's projects are long term and its executorship @thecryptodrive, @reggaemuffin and @cryptomancer are decentralised across three continents for maximum continuity.
For those technically inclined, TokenBB is developed in vue.js and runs off BuildTeam microservices infrastructure and private nodes. The app was mobile responsive but recent updates seem to have put that out of kilter, which we will be working on.
The proposed URL https://steem.tokenbb.io has the most traction so far, this is generic enough to include discussions about exchange nodes, marketing, DAO proposals, Steem apps, Steem Foundation and more. Below is a preliminary structure, please comment on this post on what you think the initial category structure should look like and add/remove whatever you think appropriate:
1. Steem Blockchain
1.1 Account Creation
1.2 Account Recovery
1.3 Abuse
1.4 Blockchain Development
1.5 Hardfork Discussion
1.6 Resources
1.6.1 Nodes (this will contain info on exchange node config, MIRA, witness nodes, etc)
1.6.2 Block Explorers
1.6.3 Steem Libraries (Beempy etc)
2. Steem Apps
2.1 Steemit.com
2.2 ...
3. Investor Relations
3.1 Why Steem?
3.2 Stakeholder Discussion
4. Steem Marketing
4.1 Steem in the media
(link media articles here where Steem or Steem apps have featured)
4.2 Marketing Opportunities
4.3 Steem Ambassadors
5. Witness Updates
5.1 Consensus Witness Discussion
5.2 Backup Witness Discussion
6. DAO Funding Proposals
6.1 Blockchain Development
6.2 Condenser Development
6.3 Community Projects
6.4 Steem Apps
6.5 Steem Marketing
7. Steem Communities
7.1 Italian
7.2 Spanish
7.3 ...
7.4 Homesteading
7.5 Photography
7.6 Recipes
More listed here https://steemcommunity.org/all-listings/
8. Steem Foundation
Should the Steem Foundation wish to have a section on the forum it can be included.
Please show your support for the forum idea and join us as a community to make it happen by providing your feedback and suggestions in comments.
My take on HF21
Ok so I rambled on quite a bit in this section so decided to make a separate post and will link it here shortly.
Here is the link: https://steemit.com/witness/@thecryptodrive/my-take-on-hf21
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I'm really excited by the potential for TokenBB technology to provide a forum-based Steem experience!
While Steemit, SteemPeak, etc are solid social media apps, there has always been the problem of how to organize and find information which isn't easily to do with the current stream-of-consciousness style feeds & posts. Discord helps to some extent since you can just go and talk to someone in realtime, but again you've got that stream-of-sonsciousness style interaction which is hard to do historical searches on.
Forums are the perfect medium to solve this issue, and feel like a natural next step service to provide for Steem users. How wonderful to, for example, just click on a Hard Fork category and easily drill down to topics on whatever you're interested in.
I hope the community will be receptive to this approach and as enthusiastic about the new organizational possibilities it offers as I am!
LOL Decentralized across three continents, just like the Trilateral comitee ... our own global steem illuminati :D
Hey i really do like the use of tokenBB, reminds me of @musing https://musing.io
tokenBB being back after @jesta made @chainbb makes me feel good knowing forums on steem are back, @ned needs to be using @steem @steemit to delegate and upvote @tokenbb posts at least for a limited time as a promotion
@ned using his actual steem and steemit accounts to do limited ANNOUNCED promotions for tokenBB and other steem dapps, on a rotation, each week he will go upvote top posts of Tokenbb then hell upvote top posts of dtube the next week, then @bescouted etc and he can showcase all the lesser known steem front ends, ned could help @vimm.tv @vimm https://vimm.tv actually compete with twitch and dlive and Vimm the steem based live streaming site could have a week of major upvotes by ned from the steem and steemit accounts
whats he afraid of? the reward pool being effected? Too bad people cant be given these unnaturally high reward pools without steemit inc getting to use it.. one day someone else will be in charge of that steemit inc stake when they are able to sell and decentralized it out, and those new owners will NOT hold back and they WILl use that nearly 20-30% of steempower and everyone will eventually feel the crunch.... so ned should rip off the brand-aid and start using trhe reward pool now, but for promoting steem dapps, in a controlled announced promotion, and to upvote people in a strict way who market steem, and no one will be mad... the steem and steemit accounts can be used to energize the entire blockchain as one giant marketing machine....
Lol, I promise I will use my illuminate powers for good. Regarding ned, well I stopped wishing on that star many moons ago. I think ned has cashed out enough Steem to be a well off millionaire and is off enjoying himself, as a business owner I don't understand why he isn't passionate about his "baby", I mean I can't wait to work on BuildTeam and Steem related matters every day and it feels like fun to me, not work, so I can't understand why he isn't more involved and passionate about his own project, each to his own I guess. BuildTeam is very much bootstrapped and grows organically, if we had funding or delegation support we could really push our flagshop products @tokenbb and @dlease to the external market, I often imagine what cool stuff we could do for Steem even if we had 1/10th the premined stake Steemit has, but it is what it is and we have to make do with the hand we are dealt.
Yeah but why did they have to go down a CENTRALIZED route? It's their perogative but it's a shame ... I await a forum like system that is decentralized and non-platform dependent then we could all be participating in the same forums and yet have a market of ideas creating better and better interfaces for said forum.
I wonder if they have any plans to decentralize it ... assuming they work hard to have the best interface we'll continue to use them. They do have a large headstart.
Will the SMT be launched priory or after the HF21?
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I think it's a great idea to organise some of threads around the HF more coherently!
There is rather a lot to it after all!
Yes I agree currently it’s fragmented all over the place and hard to reference.
Nobody really know how the HF21 will work out but I believe it will be to the best and growth of the steem and the community
#deutsch surely also wants in :)
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Sweet will make note of it if the forum goes ahead.
There should also be a minnow/tutorial/help sub-forum
At least to have a central place where we can collect helpful stuff :)
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Maybe 1.1 could be “Getting Started on Steem” it could also work in the communities group.
Good info...?
I am very desperate for a forum type steemit. Having a community with people who basically have the same interests is much better than having a general website like Steemit.
If we actually want to encourage activity on the blockchain we need to push for more community-specific based applications.
Tokenbb is a fantastic application to trail blaze for future applications. Looking forward to future developments.
Thanks so much @deniskj, what sort of communities interest you? I can add them to the list.
Well, I know that currently tokenbb is focused on communities around particular applications or a particular interest such as sports etc. Personally, I would love it if I could get the tokenbb forum and build a community with people mainly from my country.
As you know, the demographic on Steemit is basically Europe and the USA. As a minority we can benefit massively from building a community on tokenbb which will onboard several people who are more comfortable with a forum type layout.
Thank you.
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