RE: Plants Do Feel Pain. But Why Do Vegans Argue Otherwise?
ooh interesting! I agree that plants RESPOND to stress, and they also communicate when they are stressed. They are also VERY conscious, i believe that is true.
now DO they feel pain.. means do they feel. If something is conscious, it doesn't mean that it can feel. It is my opinion that they cannot feel, in any ways that resembles how we perceive pain.. Since the concept of pain does indeed require a brain.. WE feel pain in our minds, not our bodies. SO i dont really think plants feel pain in any way relevant to considering if its OK to eat them or not...
HAving said ALL that, the ONLY thing that we were clearly meant to eat is Fruit. So perhaps the only way to be 100% non violent is to be a fruitarian.. or indeed a breatharian...
nice post.. got my brain going!
Again we are anthropomorphising here. It's not essential to feel in exactly the same way as us. How an individual feel and perceive is purely subjective depending on his / her mind.
It's interesting to note that you apparently differentiate between "responding to stress" and "feeling stress". I'm curious to know what is the basis of this conclusion that they don't "feel" stress. Or did I misinterpret you here?
You make a great point that we feel pain in our minds and not in our bodies. But presence or absence of mind can not be easily ascertained as mind is non-physical.
Personally, I believe some pain is internalized from our past experiences and some depend on how our mind reacts instantaneously. And probably internalized emotions can also be demonstrated by AI technology or the intelligent machines of the future.
BTW do you believe in breatharian? Many say that it's a pseudo-science.Although I know some examples who claim to be surviving this way but still don't know if everyone of us can adopt such a path. Would love to know about your thoughts on it.
well, the basis on my conclusion/ theory that they dont FEEL stress is that they are not wired to feel.. they are wired to respond.. which is different..
a stone is conscious too, but im sure the lapping of seas on them and their erosion also causes no feeling of pain.
regards breatharianism.. it is not pseudo science, it is beyond science.. science is just starting to understand how this can be possible.. i have met and know several breatharians.. it is really not a miracle when you understand prana and even some modern day physics.. but it is not for everyone and you have to breath in the right way to be able to do it ...
That sounds interesting.