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RE: The day before the vaccine was the last one in which he was a normal child

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Children without mitochondrial disorder can also develop a plethora of diseases which you can see here, specific to the vaccine used here:

Side effects of Pentaxim

I would also recommend you the CDC "Ingredient list" which lists the toxic ingredients of many popular vaccines.

Taken Directly from the CDC website

I would also urge you to check out rate of decline graphs, of which I will find some if you need help; but, if you will take the time to notice.. vaccines have literally never increased the rate of decline of a disease. You must look at the graph from well before the vaccine was introduced, and you will see (in every case) that the disease was already in rapid decline well before introduction -- and some have even been given to the mass population when the disease had already been nearly eradicated. Other vaccines caused the rate of incidence to actually go up in some cases!

EDIT: Here are some Rate of Decline Graphs

For someone who "knows the facts", you seem to be blatantly and ignorantly arguing a stance of which you do not completely understand.

Many people die from the toxins in vaccines each year. Do you know of the vaccine court? Hundreds of millions of dollars are paid to vaccine victims, and most cases (like the one in this article) are even ignored and never counted toward anything.

Here's a funny one for you; I actually have a member of my familly who got Polio -- guess how he got it?

From the vaccine!

He's permanently debilitated because of that vaccine. Would he have gotten Polio if he didn't take the vaccine?

Probably not.

I urge you to check into the ingredients listed and start diving down the rabbit hole.

Ask yourself why "they" would never conduct a study on comparing the health of vaccinated vs unvaccinated children? They literally refused to conduct the study. For years.

Finally, other countries have examined and found unvaccinated kids are actually far healthier. Surprise?

Funny, we could converse about this all day -- but I have a feeling you are going to come back with something assuring me that injecting formaldehyde, aluminum, polysorbate 80, aborted fetal tissue, egg protein, "synthetic medium", "bovine albumin", mercury, ammonium sulfate and even squalene directly into the blood of a newborn baby, which in some cases is less than 1 day old is all fine and dandy.

Did you know if you didn't inject a vaccine intramuscular you would die immediately? Do you know why? The rabbit hole goes deep. You better start digging.

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I would also like to bring up the point that there is no true way to test for damage caused by a vaccine.

"Oh I took vaccines and look at me, I'm fine" is not a good way to test.

How will you ever know if a person's IQ was affected, or a simple thing like motor skills or coordination?

How would you ever be able to test for such a correlation ?

My point is, I have given you proof of some of the worlds most highly toxic ingredients being present in vaccines, and to say that they "cause no harm at all" would be pretty ridiculous, don't you think ?

There is absolutely no way to tell if someone has been damaged by a vaccine. No way at all. "I seem fine so they must be okay" is absurdity at its finest.

Just because you don't notice the effect, especially not immediately, how would you ever even know you were damaged.. and thus, how would you even ever correlate it to a vaccine?

Thoughts for the thoughtpanda. Awaiting your remarks.

I would never say they casue no harm, that is why we have a vaccine damage court and fund. It does happen. It is just so rare. People die from a dentist visit. Are we going to stop going to the dentist, no because we know the benifits far out way the risks.

About never knowing the full range of damage. Here is something from the CDC and the damage courts: According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2015 over 2.8 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 4,528 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 2,962 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed, 1 individual was compensated.

2.8 billion vaccined in about 10 years. We would see any side effect and the evidence would be over welming. Not just 2,962 payouts.

Most kids who got autism from the vaccines were actually declined by the vaccine court due to loopholes they create; and also you are failing to correlate what I proposed earlier.

->That many side effects and cases of disease caused by vaccines simply go unreported, uncounted or unattributed.

They simply aren't counted in the stats. Intentionally.

If a baby develops encephalitis, they don't attribute it to the vaccine. This causes the numbers to stay very low, even though it's very apparent that the cause of the encephalitis was the vaccine itself. You should watch some videos of parents testimony who have had a child that has been severely affected by vaccine.

You will perhaps then understand what I mean.

Please also have a look at this link and you will begin to see the corruption within the CDC itself to cover up correlation and falsify studies.

I am aware of the ingredients in vaccines, and no it does not scare me at all. When you lool into what they are, they are pretty benign. Growth meduims, soutions to preserve the virus, anti inflammatory agents. Also, the amounts we are talking about are so very small. Your average vaccine is only 5 ml.

Sorry to hear about your family member, but you can not get polio from the vaccine. Were they awarded damages from the vaccine damage court? The only case I could find was in Nigeria, where the virus infected people in a town after a recent vaccine push. This was casued by the towns poor sanitation and people coming into contact with raw human waste.

Lets look at the first two ingredients you worriey about injecting into yourself. Formaldehyde and aluminum. You ingest more of these from a banana than you get from a vaccine. Do bananas cause theses issues too?

About the damages, from the CDC it self: According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2015 over 2.8 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 4,528 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 2,962 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed, 1 individual was compensated.

My family member contracted Polio from the vaccine long before the vaccine court was even around. You are literally just spewing nothingness here.

" Growth meduims, soutions to preserve the virus, anti inflammatory agents."

Did you even bother to read the list? Formaldehyde, Polysorbate 80, Aluminum and Mercury are safe to be injected (at any level) within a baby which is less than 1 day old?

Do you realize many babies weigh under 7 pounds which is 4% of the bodyweight of an average adult.

Are you crazy?

Do you realize that when you inject something into the bloodstream, it does not go through your digestive track

So any point you make about "eating more" than what's in a vaccine is even more ridiculous. VACCINES ARE INJECTED STRAIGHT INTO YOUR BLOOD.

Do you also realize that most side effects are never attributed to the vaccines themselves? They are simply ignored, or attributed to something else.

Are you also failing to realize how babies do not have a liver and kidneys which have fully developed, meaning the toxic cocktail will not even be able to be filtered out properly. Their organs do not fully function FOR YEARS.

Did you research why you would die if a vaccine wasn't injected instramuscular yet? Still waiting for your response on that.

The vaccine courts would not exist if vaccines were safe, and the rate of decline graphs would show very different truths than what they do show. Did you even look?

Please show me factual evidence proving the safety and efficacy of vaccines (there are none, only mainstream pro-vax propaganda and things like fabricated terms such as "herd immunity" which is a disproven theory )

How do you know the vaccine caused the illness in your family member if they contracted it before the court was established?

The reason we know it is safe is because over 4 million new kids are vaccinated every year, and this is just in the USA. This does not include boosters or second round vaccines. The simple fact that there are so few issues is the proof that they are safe. Even if only 1% had negative responses, you would see 40,000 case per year of these horrible issues. We simply do not see that many. Even the courts have awarded only about 5,000 cases over the last 10 years.

Nothing is 100% safe, nothing can be. Yes, some people will be harmed by them, and it is tragic, but that does not mean it is better for society. Will you stop going to the dentist if someone dies from going to the dentist? Well, about 1,000 people per year die from simply going to the dentist.

About the integrates:
Formaldehyde - Preservative, Studies have shown that for a newborn of average weight of 6 - 8 pounds, the amount of formaldehyde in their body is 50-70 times higher than the upper amount that they could receive from a single dose of a vaccine or from vaccines administered over time.
Link: https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/safety/vaccine_ingredients/index.html

Polysorbate 80 - Stabilizer (it is in ice cream, soaps, mouthwash, and more)

Aluminum - It is used as an adjuvant to help boast the immune response since the virus is in such a weakened state. It is at similar levels as Formaldehyde is.

Mercury - No mercury is in vaccines, and yes Thiomersal has been removed as a precautionary measure.

thiomersal = mercury and it has not been removed from all vaccines, only children's. You are clueless and you get all of your stats straight from the CDC, pure brainwash material. No wonder.

You really disregard everything I say, then spew literal nothingness with no basis whatsoever. That's typical of a pro-vaxxer

You can't justify formaldehyde being injected into a 6 lb , 1 day old baby, no matter what you say or how hard you try. You can't say mercury isn't in vaccines when it has been present in them for nearly 100 years and only present in them on the basis of bunk science (the only study on thiomersal is from the early 1900s, this is verifiable, see some proof HERE). You can't say aluminum is safe when aluminum is a known neurotoxin and is one of the leading causes in alzheimer's patients. You are justifying all of the toxic ingredients and saying you know they are toxic, but they are in there for a reason and its "okay" even though they are killing babies and not curing disease?

Show me evidence that vaccines eradicated a disease, please. I'll wait. Vaccines have never eradicated any diseases, that is not their point.

Shouldn't the point of a vaccine be to build your immunity, not to overload your body with a toxin load which actually lowers your immunity ?

Studies show unvaccinated kids are healthier

Find me a study comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated children.

You are justifying the use of aluminum being injected into a 6 lb baby who cannot filter it out?

What justification do you use?

Are you acknowledging that whether or not you notice the damage -- you may well be damaged from a vaccine?

Also, the vaccine definitely caused Polio in my grandfather. He developed Polio immediately after taking the Polio vaccine. A lot of people were maimed by the Polio vaccine, most of which went unreported.

He has lived his whole life with partial paralysis due to that Polio vaccine when he would have never gotten Polio had he not taken it.

That was in the late 50's or early 60's when they were pushing the Polio vaccine full force, of course they did not have the vaccine court then.

Even if something as corrupt as the "vaccine court" did exist at that time, it wouldn't matter. I already told you how they refuse to acknowledge most vaccine damage, so most children do not even have a chance at fair care or compensation, despite overwhelming evidence of vaccine being the cause.

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