RE: Do Vaccines Cause Cancer?
Hi @daudimitch, more research is definitely needed. But unfortunately, as you probably know, research requires incentive, and typically the incentive is money. The vaccine companies also produce drugs and as the public is becoming more aware, these companies are heavily tied in government regulatory agencies. Studies are very expensive, and this is why there are still so many people without treatments or drugs suffering from lesser-known diseases. If a study were done that found vaccines to be harmful, however, there's still room to edit or pull them altogether.
This type of scenario was done in the Token study, which focused on the Hexavac vaccine. The English version contained 160 pages while the German version was just 7 pages. The more comprehensive English version mentioned 100s of deaths occurring after the vaccination but the German version simply stated the vaccines are safe and multiple vaccines pose no significant risk in the infant mortality rate.
I wish everyone did know the risks before they accepted vaccinations. But we are all up against an unfair fight. The people we trust, such as our doctors and government health agencies, they are not giving us the full disclosure on vaccines.
Vaccination is a billion dollar industry and the special interest are only seeking to full their pocket....the people capable of enacting change don't have the financial muscle to take on the job and they themselves find themselves taking orders when their jobs are under threat....this 'vaccine scheme' is apart of a much bigger problem under health, its has move away from being patient centered to what makes sense financially.....for-profit medical school is another pack of cards with special interest sucking blood all over it, you would soon realize this cancer cannot be contained
Unfortunatly I still do not see the reasoning for supporting Vaccinations. You state that they Help in some cases, but where is the meat and potatoes for that claim, can you back it up with anything, because right now you simply abandoned it all and agreed that it's hardly a base for vaccines as it's a "SCHEME".
Frankly I don't think you know enough about vaccines to make any of those calls. I will point you out to this study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4160575/
That study is fairly recent and it discusses some Ghastly Appalling things, hence the name.
nataliejohnson knows Exactly what she is talking about, I was going to go into the history of under-reporting and outright non-reporting for vaccine induced illness or illness after vaccinations but I deleted the entire paragraph because as much as I want to shout "WHAT-SUBJECTS does it help!" while picking apart the meaningless figure of speech which unbeknownst to you excuses this scientific fraud with "not a black and white science" when in fact electron microscopy is only black and white science, and there is no Isolated viruses for the numerous vaccinations to tout, and even in that study from 2014 they only discuss Tracing virus interactions by immunogold labeling and that hardly makes up for the fraudulent pictures purported in all kinds of molecular biology Propaganda Books as isolated viruses which in many cases are normal cellular structures or pictures of cells.
The reality of the science behind Viruses is gasthly indeed, when a century ago, before electron microscopy was a tangible method, there were still those that claimed to have isolated the Polio Virus, a ludicrous claim that was nothing short of fraud.
For the record that's my area of study, my degree and certification is in Medical Sciences and my area of interest is Immunology so I have an excellent grasp of the subject....I am just approaching the subject matter with a open mind and taking note of the points being made...vaccination is still a controversial topic within the community with many points for and against it...From the early days of Louis Pasteur to Edward Jenner, the subject has remain controversial...the experiment of Jenner would cause quite a stir today but its probably one of the single greatest discovery...I have work along with doctors who would not take vaccine for anything and others that are strong believers... I am certainly not barking the horn because I have a degree and , what I am saying that the financial incentive overrides the intention to do good of many of these vaccines, as vaccines distributed without going through the necessary rigorous testing....We cannot also be ignorant of the fact the vaccination help contained the Spanish flu and the very Polio you speak of....Nonetheless, there is what is known as idiosyncratic reaction to vaccines all of which are well documented and there are special interest groups that just pump the vaccination slogan to gain financial rewards often times some of the vaccines they back has shown no efficacy in dealing with the illness...Once again I would say, the big problem with Healthcare, we have moved away from the days of William Osler and now everything is financial and that's the problem.... to summarize vaccination remains a controversial topic with points for and points against, patients must first be educated and once they agree I see no problem with that but I cannot agree throwing everything down someone throat as I am aware of the special interest who seek financial gains without regard for anyone health....your erroneous statement "molecular biology propaganda books" is out of place as we rely on these very scientist to better understand the mechanism used by these viruses to evade the immune system....the understanding of these viruses are changing constantly and many of these viruses are quite ancient and play a more critical role than previous thought, so I certainly appreciate the hard work that these guys do...I certainly agree with your statement "there were still those that claimed to have isolated the Polio Virus" as that methodology wasn't develop but we cannot use that counter the work that is being done presently....
You're educated in the very manner that keeps you ignorant to the very subject you believe yourself informed in, you're indoctrinated into the propaganda of the text book which undoubtedly broke your credit card or your bank account and has to amount to some value! The joke is on you, wholly on you, and the professors are those who are too dumb to recognize Fact from Fiction and if they aren't incompetent then they must be complicit or subversive, so your education is therefore hardly a testament to anything other than State Propaganda vs Other's Propaganda with some Subversive Truth if you're lucky. The bane of civilization is the basis of the idea of Certification, the empty guarantee which attests to a persons credentials, which offers no safety of any kind but is quite an expedient avenue to exploit on mere the false sense of security it's imbibed with by the function of "Guarantee" and is in turn used to bilk those into being "certified" as having learned something, when they are guaranteed an "education" but they are offered Indoctrination, for example you probably still believe that it is correct for anyone to claim that Viruses work like so, but your area of study has claimed they work in a completely fabricated way for close to a century and continued to do so contrary to the pouring evidence of libraries of studies, and purporting it is on, PURELY on, myth, without any methodology. You have been given all the Why they work like this and none of the How we know they work like this, because expressing exactly How shines the light on the fact that it's pure FABRICATION. If I were you I'd ask for my money back and cut myself from that debt asap.
They got me, I ran away with their propaganda thinking that I am know better off than I was before...I have fallen victim to their indoctrination and I am believer that viruses exist
When you're capable of sarcasm off again and chewing on what I said in hindsight of ALL that I said you'll realize I have given you unsolicited advice worth more than all the books you have on microbiology combined. But do keep making claims that the Virologist Community can defend themselves, or claims in general devoid of Logic or Fact and wholly as an appeal to popularity and conventional wisdom on matters that have an intimate and deadly cost should they be wrong to most everyone who's lied to or outright forced into such matters.
kinda on a tanget, do you know how many microbiologist have died of Suicide, or of Murder/Suicide (still suicide) or Car Crashes or other Mysterious Deaths such as fast growing tumors? Last time I checked since 9/11 the list was over 250.
Thank you for your wisdom, it was well noted. I wasn't aware of the suicide, or anything of that matter...Probably we can agree to disagree on some things....i am not fan of vaccines being thrown down anyone throat, I believe in first educating patients and then gaining consent...i also want to let you know that quite few advances in virology with regard to detection of these viruses, its no longer a mystery and the molecular biology behind a few of their mechanism are well known, PCR is transforming diagnosis as we speak, results for most of todays test are available within 24 hours and we can look at CPE to identify characteristics of certain viruses when they evade the immune system....steemian advances are being made, probably if more money is dedicated towards these kind of research rather than shareholders probably we would eradicate much more...we can all agree that vaccines aren't 100% safe but we can appreciate the thought process behind them... once again I appreciate and welcome your views, and you need not to worry I don't drink all the kool-aid thrown at me
No they are not, not well known at all and this would be immediately understood if you read the study I linked or by simply telling us What these mechanisms are and then we can see if we can conclude Well Known or not.
So?
And how did you get to those characteristics to begin with for the said viruses? In other words you're saying that if we cannot detect them by antibody we can detect them by how the cell is attacked, because it has been demonstrated that the virus is characteristic in these ways, because ....
I've pointed to their Ghastly history, I've pointed to the fact that it was fraud back in the day as milkmaids weren't any more protected than the rest of the population as outbreaks happened among those that inoculated by scraping or otherwise seeking to infect themselves with the puss of the cowpox for 1400 years before Edward Jenner killed his first son and spared his second on a old wife's tale and after tens of thousands died by mandate while the vaccine induced illness was also by mandate and testimony of nurses and doctors under-reported or not reported by a factor of 15:1, and you cannot appreciate that the method for providing immunity has been a work of COMPLETE-FICTION, and not just embellishments or exaggerations and it remains so to this day, as admitting that (as the study that I posted did on 3 different levels admitted the impossibility of predicting reliably such reactions) the pictures of viruses are by and large fabrications and complete falsehoods equal to that the "key and lock" analogy was also work of COMPLETE-FICTION, along with the "Immune system Learns and Adapts because of viruses" would undermine any and all credibility there is to "Virology".
What you eat I don't shit.