Should I tell my kids to vaccinate or not?
I am going to be a grandma in less than seven weeks and I honestly don't know what to tell them. I know what I want to tell them. I want to tell them run, run fast and don't vaccinate. But the problem is they are new parents and if they don't vaccinate it will set bells off in the medical field that is around them and it may make social services watch them even more than they might already.
My daughter in law is native and she grew up in and out of foster homes. She has two sisters who also grew up in foster homes. So social services have always been in her life and I know for a fact is watching her now. She is is quite young only 21 and she is very worried that if she doesn't do everything right social services will be on her back. We had a very good talk about vaccinations and she honestly does not want to do them. But she is so afraid that if she doesn't she will look like a bad mom.
In Canada it says we have free will to choose what kind of health care we want but do we really? Why is it that a young mom to be is so afraid of bringing attention to herself when the answer should be free choice. If she goes along with the mainstream and vaccinate her kids she will be looked upon as a caring loving mom who is doing the best for her child. If she does not vaccinate she will look like a young foolish uncaring mom who is harming her child.
With the evidence out their about how vaccinations can and already have harmed innocent children what should I tell her? Should I tell her just do it so the authorities shut up or do I tell her to stand her ground and take the chance that she will be frowned upon? I wish it was really free choice but it's not.
All we can do is wait and see what my son and daughter decide to do. If they have the guts to go against the mainstream them I tip my hat to them and if they don't then shame on the authorities who took their freedom of choice away. Whatever they choose I will be there with them supporting them every step of the way. But I will dream of the day if that ever comes that we will really be free to choose what we want and not be forced into the easy way.
I taught Ballet for 27 years, and through that time I watched hundreds of kids go through my school and the healthiest ones were always the unvaccinated. One thing that really struck me through that time was how many more kids in the progressing years were out sick. It clearly correlated with increasing amount of vaccines that were being given to them. When I first started teaching, it was rare to have a student miss class due to illness, by the time I retired, it was rare for me to NOT have at least 2 or more students out sick, no matter what time of the year it was.
I pray that when my now grown children have children of their own, they will consider strongly what I have been teaching them about vaccines and natural remedies.
Too Right! My kids rarely miss school and their taller than most kids and lean as a greyhound. All that without a restrictive diet.
Thank you for the reinsurance I too hope that my kids will choose not to. I believe there are so many other things we can do to keep ourselves healthy that we don't need to put crap into our systems. I talked to my son yesterday and they are leaning towards not vaccination so lets hope he makes the right decision.
Injecting undigested foreign protein directly into the bloodstream along with numerous poisons and heavy metals. Not intelligent.....
Of course, doctors are the most intelligent beings in society. No they just regurgitate. They are good in memorizing. Has nothing to do with the scientific method. Just tell them. It is up to them what to do.
doctors get paid by pharmacare so they dont care they just want a paycheck
In the book Bad Science the author claims that %80 of western medicine is not evidence based and he's a doctor and a proponent of western medicine.
You are going to be a great grandmother!
In BC, all vaccinations are done at the local health unit, not at the doctors office. The nurses are not going to report to anybody about who is vaccinated and who isn't. When I had my first baby, the health unit phoned me to remind me to make an appointment for immunizations. I said that I wasn't going to do them. They asked if they could mail me some info to read, and I said yes that I will read what they mailed me. I think that they called one more time after that and were quite nice to me when I told them again that I wasn't going to vaccinate. I have never been bothered with any phone calls from Health Units ever again, not even for my next two children. No doctors have ever phoned me. No health authorities have ever phoned me.
I do know how horrible the Social Services system is, but they have zero legal grounds to get involved based on vaccinations.
Thank you I will pass this information onto my kids and hopefully it will give them the courage to stand on their own beliefs.
Good work. I do not like vaccines. I commented on your post already.
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I live in canada never vaccinated either of my two children, when asked about vaccinations I politely inform them (schools or whoever) that we do not share our private medical information. We used echinacea and were very careful with people who have coughs(teenagers especially) while our children were under two because of whooping cough.
Yes being cautious is good. I like how you responded when asked those questions. I will pass that onto my kids. Thank you
I would strongly support her in not if I were you. It is everyone's birth rite to be able to choose what goes in our body. Coercion tactics to force parents into vaccinating is bullshit. Help them find some local groups that support Health Freedom and mentor them on how to discuss the matter respectfully and with empowered knowledge on their rights. I'm from the US but there will be local groups in Canada that deal with this stuff and help advocate for parental rights. Vaccine Choice Canada looks like a good place to start getting informed and prepared to deal with any potential inquiries by concerned officials who are just trying to do what they believe is best even if it is misguided.
Thank you i will pass on this information. I'm going to strongly going to suggest no vaccination.
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Hi, congratulations grandma to be! I'm sure you're very excited.
I think you should tell them to do whatever they truely believe in. You can't enter into something as serious as vaccinations with a half hearted decision. As I wrote in one of my previous posts, it will be the patents alone who have to deal with the result of this choice - not the authorities. It's certainly not right to inject a child just to keep people quiet either.
I hope they reach a decsion they're comfortable with. Best of luck to you all.
I am extremely excited I even get to be in the delivery room. I'm going to spend a month or more with them to help with the settling of baby, making sure mom and dad gets their rest, and hopefully to help make sure breastfeeding gets off without a hitch.
My son and daughter are seriously looking into what they are going to do. I will support them either way.
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She should absolutely get her kids vaccinated. If she's unsure there's plenty of scientific literature at her local library and across the internet regarding this topic she can peruse, but please refer to the scientific literature and not source-lacking, clickbait garbage.
The OP did not ask for your OPINION on vaccination.
yes..vaccinate.
the so called 'study' that got everyone's panties in a wad was bogus.
The OP did not ask for your OPINION on vaccination.
thanks for the support.
You're welcome. I had nothing helpful to advise, but was pleased to see that some others had useful info for you. Then I got a bit cross with those who took the opportunity to criticise.
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How do you do a double-blind study on a vaccine?
Nutrition, Hygiene, Refrigeration, Food Safety, Proper Disposal of Sewage also changed in the same time frame. Look at your graph! Death by measles and whooping cough declined before introduction of the vaccines. You won't get scarlet fever if you have enough vitamin A, same with birth defects caused by measles. Nutrition and Hygiene are the reason why we're healthier Period
I totally agree my goodness we don't live in the dark ages anymore. I think being smart is better than injecting crap into our systems. Thanks for reading my post.
I didn't put my family's safety at risk on the advice of "click-bait" but through careful consideration and research. whichever kind of medicine you use it always pays to be a careful consumer. I've gone through the stage that a lot of herbal medicine consumers go through not trusting doctors at all and I now think that is as big a mistake as blindly accepting what they tell you.
@everittdmickey and @pgcrypto by referring to whatever evidence as 'clickbait' insinuates that the poster has not already done thorough research. Do you not think that @jolly-homestead would have looked at both sides of the argument before even thinking of advising her kids? There is evidence out their that vaccines can harm, and there is rubbish science on the pro-vaccine side as well. By insinuating that vaccine fear is essentially 'fake news' and should be ignored, the real issue is never dealt with. The fact is that vaccines are supplied by some insidious pharma companies - do you believe they have the best interests of your children at heart! No, they want to ensure that they make profit year on year. Easiest way to do that is by keeping people sick. Why would they give you an effective vaccine to keep you healthy when it would destroy profit?
I dont have children myself, and i am glad i do not have to make this decision,but i definitely swing more to the not vaccinating side. To me pushing mandatory vaccination in places makes it feel like there is a ulterior motive.
yes yes yes I totally agree with you. Wow there is like minded people out there I am so happy. Thanks for sharing
Absolutely! I wholly believe that parents should have sole responsibility for their children and if the parents decide they do not want vaccinate, then that is their right. Medical professionals shoukd ask whether they want to be jagged and if not provide support and advice on how to minimise risks. If you feel strongly one way then stick by your guns. Good and luck and congratulations on your impending arrival :)
Again I agree with you doctors have their place in our lives but we as consumers need to do what is right in our minds not listen to everything that is told to us.
Your graph demonstrates that vaccines had very little to do with reducing mortality rates. These diseases were already in a state of significant decline when vaccines were introduced.
The diseases prevented by vaccines are worse than the consequences of vaccinating so you should go with the lesser of two evils and vaccinate.
Your cool with encephalitis?
Both my parents worked in the healthcare field. My sister and I were both vaccinated in the early 80's. But now, my mother has definite concerns about vaccines. Today, they bundle the vaccines, giving babies multiple vaccines shortly after birth. They do this before having any information about the child's immune system or possible allergies, complications, etc. Basically, they flood newborns with chemicals and hope for the best.
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uggg so our babies are test dummies then wow don't that make us feel good being parents.