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RE: Even more evidence that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism

in #vaccines6 years ago

Best of luck in getting the data and evidence out. Sadly, I've past the point where I have wanted to engage with people on the internet about this and other points of science. However, I do believe you are doing good work by bringing this to light. Again best of luck, it might be a difficult audience you have here!

I have featured you and this post for a Curation Contest here:

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You can also join the fun here:

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Awesome! thanks for the recognition. It's a tough thing, going toe-to-toe with these guys. But unless someone calls out the BS it'll just keep proliferating. They'll run from the traditional social media to alternative sources, like Steem. I'm all for free speech and all, but some of their stuff they post just makes your head shake and it's blatantly misconstrued or just completely wrong. I am to hit them with epistemology, if one person comes away from a post questioning the information I feel I've done my job.

Again, thanks for the recognition.

" I'm all for free speech and all, but". That just about says it all.
In other words I'm not all for free speech.
Please spare us the sanctimonious claptrap and the gut wrenching virtue signalling.

Maybe you should try taking a good look at yourself for a change
e.g. What makes you think you know better than everyone else? With your "I don't care if kills everyone in the World, as long as it saves one child I feel I've done my job" type of attitude.

BTW. What exactly is your "job"? To shill for Big Pharma? Or are you really that naive as to fall hook line and sinker for their nefarious lies?

Mmm...

Did not say if I could save one child...let me quote for you...

if one person comes away from a post questioning the information

That means using critical thinking, reasoning, getting beyond the confirmation bias... coming out from under the conspiracy mindset. I constantly look at the way I'm thinking, and the information I'm digesting. I'm hoping to help others find the resources to learn how to use critical thinking as well.

I have stated that I don't work for a pharma company. I will add that I also do not own any stock in any pharma company. Not sure why people keep throwing that in to their comments.

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As far as the "save one child" is concerned, I was saying that that's the kind of message you were putting across. I didn't say that's exactly what you said.

As far as the critical thinking is concerned, maybe you could learn some more about it before you start lecturing others on the subject. e.g. when you say "coming out from under the conspiracy mindset" as though conspiracies were some kind of fantasy, not to be considered within the framework of critical thinking, you display a clear misunderstanding of the critical thinking process.
When using critical thinking all possibilities must be taken into consideration including conspiracies. In fact when any type of major event such as 9/11 or mass shootings and the like take place, and the official explanation doesn't appear to add up or make sense then the most likely true explanation is that it was brought about by a conspiracy.

Conspiracies are not some kind of wacko things that only crazy or deluded people believe in but that don't actually take place in real life. The Congressional record is full of known and proven conspiracies carried out by Government agencies.

I wanted to send you links to some of them but many articles were no longer available.
Here's one about cancer treatments
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2007/04/03/1953_fitzgerald_report_suppressed_cancer_treatments.htm
Halfway down the page there's also a link to "vaccine shenanigans"

I'll send you some more if and when I find them.

Didn't say conspiracies are some kind of wacko things that only crazy or deluded people believe in. There are absolutely legit things that were shrouded in conspiracy and ended up being true. One that comes to mind is the mind control experiments that the U.S. government embarked on and covered up. There have been other industrial cover ups and falsifications. That's not where I'm coming from.

Let's do this. I've created another post where I'd like to have a discussion about Conspiracy Theory's. I would love for anyone to join.

Here's the post: https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@vaccinusveritas/conspiracy-theory-an-open-discussion

Hope to see you there.

My pleasure, best of luck staying sane! I just can't bring myself to read much of it... It is weirdly twisted and unfortunately a little bit misguided about how data, sources and statistical analysis work in reality. But hey, why bother with real mathematics when you know how to calculate a mean average?

While, I agree, let me say, both sides are over the top in BS and propaganda. Calm down and let people evaluate each vaccination for it's risks and rewards.

Why such a push? Eradication may never happen, but crazy overly emotional insistence that everyone trust the science is just as uninformed in my opinion.

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