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RE: Post Promoter JavaScript Voting Bot - Round Fill Limits, Minimum Post Age, and more!

in #utopian-io7 years ago (edited)

Sadly, I can only vote for you as witness once!

I think our philosophies align pretty well, except, I don't think bots themselves should become whales. A small return on investment for minnows, say $1-2 for a 100% vote and the extra steem power should go into another bot, maybe? More overhead, I know!

Maybe as I hang out on Steemit more I'll see the error of my ways. ;)

But seeing as I was just laid off and was looking for an excuse to learn javascript, if I want to see how my vision of how a bot should work, then I should make a bot myself. Put up or shut up, eh?

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Thanks @trickbrown! I don't understand what you mean by the following:

I don't think bots themselves should become whales. A small return on investment for minnows, say $1-2 for a 100% vote and the extra steem power should go into another bot, maybe?

Can you explain what you mean? Also sorry to hear that you were laid off but hopefully you can turn that into an opportunity. Let me know if you do jump into javascript and I would be happy to help out if you have any questions!

I see some bots with a voting power over $1000 or $1500. That just strikes me as crazy, unless they are opting to vote every 1.2 hours @ 50% or every 36 minutes at 25%. (Or maybe I'm misunderstanding some aspect of the voting math.)

Maybe after a night's sleep I'm waffling a little, but my thinking last night was that bots would be the best way for a minnow to get some exposure and those who already had some exposure/steempower really didn't need it.

But as I think of the flip side, I used to own my own restaurant. A tough business even with a lot of advertising. These bots are glorified paid advertising, and advertising does not work unless it is constantly applied. So under that thought process (rationalization?) I can see where a dolphin or whale would need to use a higher powered bot from time to time to keep themselves going.

Thanks for the upvote! And especially thanks for the offer for any help with questions.

Yes I think you might be misunderstanding how it works. The full value of a particular bot's vote may be $1,000+ (that's USD value by the way, not what will show on steemit.com), however that value is split up among everyone who sends a bid in the current bidding round.

So for example for a bot whose vote is worth $1,000, if 100 people all send in a $10 bid in the round then they will each receive a $10 value vote. So the larger bots are able to handle both large bids and small bids at the same time - they just split up the vote value accordingly.

And you are correct that the bots are just a method of advertising. On SteemIt.com your business is your blog and advertising via the voting bots is an effective way of increasing traffic to your business. Ultimately the value of the content provided in your blog will determine what type of ROI you get from that advertising.

No, I understand how it all gets split up. Math is, kind of, my thing.

I suppose I'm more curious as to where all the value comes from on the back end. It just seems like magic to me, that that much value can refill in 2.4 hours. I guess I need to delve into the white papers to see how all this works. So much to learn and so little time...

But first, after lurking for a few days, I should write my introduce myself post and actually "join" the community. :)

Ah, that's a very different question - maybe this post can help explain it at a very high level, and if you're mathematically inclined then definitely read the bluepaper and whitepaper for more details.

Let me know when you make your intro post!

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