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RE: UserAuthority (UA): explanations, applications and implications

in #utopian-io7 years ago

Agreed!
But you know how google has to update its algorithm in every month or day just to fight with those unnatural optimization activities and remember how many known-unknown algorithms they are running. Will this be feasible on steem with such small development group? It will take lots of manpower, time and money!
Only My thoughts though!!

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Hi @katteasis On Steem my UA algorithm works even better as PR does with Google:

  • there exist many more pages on the web (billions) as users on Steem right now (~ 500k), so it's not that computational-heavy
  • the core "gaming"-problem the PageRank formula has with pages, does not exist with Steem followers: a page can link to itself, and can link to a neighbour same-domain page hundreds of time, thereby "locking up" PageRank inflow. Yet on Steem, an account cannot follow itself, and can only follow another account once

I Understand.
I am not saying it's not a good idea. But still, it can arise problems like Private Networking, follow/follower selling/buying, multiple fake accounts etc...we should be ready to face such activities Implementing any kind of UA/or ranking since they will be coming sooner or later.

That would be futile on gaming UA:

  • mathematically, UA allows for "jailing" accounts in the follower matrix. A SPAMhaus account could used to vote for jailing-consensus
  • and even more powerful, UA allows for a democratized call to unfollow each high-UA follow-seller, making its efforts powerless

Great!
If you believe we can get it working this way then you should Try to approach witnesses and the teams with your Proposal. Few days ago I've seen a post from jerrybanfield as Call To Proposal or something like that. I am not sure this fits on that category or not. Maybe you should check that post If you Haven't already.
I also want to see this Implemented on steem.
GOOD LUCK!!👍🏻

the core "gaming"-problem the PageRank formula has with pages, does not exist with Steem followers: a page can link to itself, and can link to a neighbour same-domain page hundreds of time, thereby "locking up" PageRank inflow. Yet on Steem, an account cannot follow itself, and can only follow another account once

This is also a good counter-argument to the suggestion I keep seeing to also incorporate upvotes along with follows.
A second counter-argument is that incorporating follows makes it many times more operationally expensive.
A third counter-argument would be that votes are much more likely to be bot-driven (a la luckyluke, streemian, voter trails, buildawhale vote clubs, etc.) than actual follows (which in the case of high UA users generally mean they want to see more content from that user, while low UA users may be following follow-back strategies).

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