It is completely and totally absurd how much time and money I've invested in eurorack enveloped generators SPECIFICALLY because of how critical they are and how the little quirks of each one differentiate them from each other. For my money the Make Noise Maths is the undisputed most versatile and expressive envelope generator I've used ... it's entirely of the Buchla school of thought and has all sorts of interesting generative functions ... like triggering a gate at the end of the first envelope and self patching it into an entirely different envelope on the other side ... then gives you a million ways to combine the sum or inverse of these two envelopes into a wholly complex modulation you'd never just imagine in your head. I am damn envelope generator crazy at this point ... I think I have ten channels? And only half are traditional ADSRs? Woof.