@mattlovell It's a moderate hike. Not really difficult, but definitely not easy. It's like 7 miles one way. There's a few waterfalls to climb around in lower Surprise canyon, but that's the only technical stuff. Then it's just a long gradual uphill slog. It's one of those trails that hardly seems like you're climbing up until you stop and look behind you and then you see how much you've actually climbed.