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RE: ‘Why mainstream forms of money are evil’ - in under 10 minutes

in #threespeak5 years ago (edited)

What if it’s nothing to do with capitalism versus collective collaboration... what if it has to do with how we find consensus and decide on the monetary policies and functions of the future. What if the answer is in re-writing democracy so that people can vote with capital (rather than individual single vote) on the things they care about. The things that individually matter to them. So rather than voting democratically for a corruptible human that says he is going to change the world as we know it... we vote for the items we want to change and then those are implemented by the people assigned to the task. Upon completion the funds are then automatically and in an itemized fashion distributed to the people who did the actual work. Perhaps the failings of our time has nothing to do with socialism versus capitalism... perhaps this is the signal that democracy in its current state needs to be upgraded to meet the demands and requirements of our times.

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All forms of democracy are an overpowering and denial of free will. They are the majority (or in your case, the wealthiest) overpowering everyone else. This is not balance and is really just another form of tyranny, oppression and enslavement. The normalisation of this over time gives it an appearance of being 'fair' - but you only need to walk in the shoes of it's victims and study history to feel how this is not optimal.

Giving voting power to the most wealthy is an absurd solution to our problems to me - why do you think it is a good idea? Are you taking the position that those with the most money are somehow automatically the wisest? Isn't the entire purpose of the video here to show part of why that isn't true?

From my perspective, there cannot be peace without balance. Balance means 'no part or individual overpowering any other'. Achieving this means constant and felt awareness/understanding of each others real needs, such that they all get met. Many people don't even know their own real needs - let alone the needs of others. Having money is in no way a signal that you understand the real needs of others deeply enough to make decisions that intelligently effect them. The solution here requires a process that includes personal evolution and an increased awareness of the felt and intuitive signals that tell us when our thoughts and actions are balanced.

The 'ubuntu movement' has an interesting and ancient approach. I don't agree with 100% of their logic, but the idea is basically 'if it's not good for all then it's not good at all'. Some might interpret this to mean that there is a loss of individuation - but that's not really true - the principle is intended to ensure that nothing gets set in stone unless it truly works for every single being. If such great ideas are not found, then we keep learning until they are - remaining totally agile and able to shift to new options along the way. Change is a constant that is deliberately being withheld as much as possible by those who have stolen the most and with the least heart.

an anarchic system as opposed to democratic system would achieve the same tyrany, people would invest in things from their contributed income into things that they believe in...
for example:
if people choose to invest military aid to resolve a conflict half the people would invest in israel the other half in palestine ending up arming both sides causing the maximum amount of cassualties possible...

if people choose to invest in a bike lane, other people will tear down the bike lane for more car lanes.... public goods are not always for all which is a big debate in the US about the governmental healthcare system as people dont want to buy a health care system that they dont use (while they may be using it when they got old and will rely on young people paying into the healthcare system)...

the democratic process eliminates the waste of public goods funding as people make up their mind in what they invest it in based on majority... if i dont plan to have kids what good does investing in education do for me? in that sense ubuntu does not make sense... we cannot eliminate someone being overpowered as not every snowflake can have their own way the world works..

i agree the steem upvote system is flawed but thats one way of keeping people making multiple accounts to upvote their stuff... unless we want a surveilance currrency as china is currently building that requires ur ID...

The ubuntu principle would generally not involve investing in military offense of any kind, in my interpretation - since military offense is not good for everyone.

"the democratic process eliminates the waste of public goods funding as people make up their mind in what they invest it in based on majority"

that is quite a naive statement that is not based on the evidence. huge amounts of public money get wasted as a result of choices made via alleged democractic processes. in most countries the 'democracy' is a controlled facade by design that offers voters little in the way of real choice. no matter who you vote for you get roughly the same direction in policy when push comes to shove and some of that is due to bribery, some to blackmail and some to just incompetence and heartlessness. controlling the opinions of the majority is not that challenging if you control the information flows in the world and deliberately manipulate thinking to disempower people - which is exactly what has been done for a long time on an industrial scale.

"if i dont plan to have kids what good does investing in education do for me? in that sense ubuntu does not make sense"

you choose what you invest in - that's good for you and unless you happen to control most of the resources, it's not necessarily bad for anyone in principle. part of the problem people have with this kind of free thinking is that they are so used to being controlled that they can't see beyond the box of control and imagine that it is possible to live without being forced to do something they don't want to do.

"we cannot eliminate someone being overpowered as not every snowflake can have their own way the world works"

every act of overpowering has a cause - which can be understood and changes made so that the causes no longer exist. 'the world works' as we align to direct it to work - what evidence do you have that the world works a particular way and cannot change? do you deeply understand the causes of and mechanisms within what has been called 'the human condition'?

as far as ID oracles for steem goes - I don't see that happening soon, though I know that steemit inc has plans for it and Voice on EOS relies on a new form of it using multiple smartphones. I'm not for it.

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