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Hi, looked up the term K-hole; doesn't sound like a nightclub drug! Were you OK with the experience, or did it suddenly hit while you were doing something? At least I was lying down.

And thanks, I tried to articulate it as accurately as words can manage.

I dont do drugs anymore but ketamine is outside of the box. Its weird though as when your pumped up with other party drugs the ket actually keeps you going if you want to stay on it for days on end. I think i had a mixed bag i tended to know how much was going to send me over the edge so we used to do it when we go back from clubbing it actually reduced the effects from the other drugs believe it or not. I've been in there a few times it starts with an out of body experience one time i was lying on a balcony and flew off and straight into the ground believe or not i was actually okay with that as i was aware what was going on. The first times really scary like you have to surrender to it because you have no other choice.. was yours like that? then i've had all sorts of weird stuff going on sometimes it was horrible other times amazing seeing stuff that you know isn't fake that it's behind the scenes you just know. Not always could i remember as you say its quite difficult to store such an experience because our minds aren't able to put it into any kind of box. Think the memory is more of an innate feeling rly although some of the horrible one's not

Kinda funny that the part that would freak out most people - the OBE - you took in your stride! Yes, a state of surrendering or letting-go is necessary; something our culture does little to promote as we're expected to behave like corporations (in itself amusing as the word is derived from "body"). But I've always found some core awareness sits slightly behind the "action" and observes the play of illusions.

was actually fun hahah cos after a few times you know your gonna be okay...well until the horrible one's start that is.. then you rly are in a real life nightmare not even going to explain those. It most certainly does it's like a silent peace permeating from behind it seems to give direction as well as observe i suppose knowing the difference between that direction and what is limited is at the core of happiness peace and success... Look forward to your next post man x

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