RE: My accounts are on the Hive blacklist
// Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp
The Rules of the blacklist is too harsh, it's ridiculous. 1000SP before the announcement is $130. That's nothing. @blocktrades and whoever is behind the hardfork need to revise this ASAP
I think removing the ninja minded stake, is only the first step
Moving to the new Blockchain, we expect a safe place for free speech and free opinion. We can take sides, we can vote for whoever we want even for Justin Sun if he decides to onboard hive.
I expect Hive will be a completely better version of Steem not just a hardfork. We don't want Steem Blockchain code, we had millions of problems with it. We want the community, its values and its experiences; @steemchiller is part of that.
If Hive will be another centralised Blockchain under different names, I will be leaving it
I think it's too late for them to fix that matter... They should've seen the problems right away and fixed them before putting that list into the code.
It isn't too late. By design it can be corrected in a later HF or even directly via an SPS proposal. Make your case and if Hive stakeholders agree then it will be done.
But that is not really a smart way of approaching such matters. In dubio pro reo. You should take the list to a usable content before applying it. What you are doing is equivalent to putting innocent people into jail because you slightly suspect they might maybe be criminal.
You're approaching that matter in a shoot first talk later fashion which I don't like.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the list, except for one technical error I'm aware of.
People should take responsibility for their actions. If you support centralizing a chain in any way then don't expect a new chain built for the entire purpose of decentralization to give you free coins.
Everyone on that list or not still has their Steem. Nothing has been taken away.
I'm sorry @smooth, but I'm calling bullshit on that one. Go back to the article I wrote 3 years ago when I told you this place was centralised.
You said it wasn't and I was wrong, you even flagged me for daring to suggest that Steemit was centralised.
Now I see why, because you and a bunch of the other whales were made so because you were allowed to mine Steem, thus giving you and the other members of the cabal a ninja mine.
But the fact is, you sat quietly and enjoyed the fruits of your ninjamine. Now when Ned sells his share of the spoils, suddenly you and the others jump on your soapbox and bang the decentralisation drum.
WHERE WAS THAT DRUM FOR THE LAST 3.5 YEARS???
Now and your buddies can have all the power on the new chain, whilst claiming decentralisation, and the lost sheep who want you to vote for them will agree with you.
Well, not me, I'll always call it like it is, flag me, vote me, ignore me, at least I'll be able to look at myself in the mirror for not ignoring this hypocrisy.
Cg
Are you going to fix that prior to taking that list live? Because that's a thing fixed in 3 Minutes if you know what you are doing.
Otherwise I think we can peacefully disagree on that. I don't have the stake to change such things, so I'll have to live with what you are doing...
No, it isn't feasible to change the code so soon before a hardfork. There are already exchanges running the release, and they already complained that getting it only a day or two before was way too late. (Ideally hard fork code is frozen and release a month before, but this was considered an emergency situation.)
This will need to be addressed on the Hive side.
That's very bad for all the users which are affected despite not applying to your criteria. I expect a quick solution for those accounts from the top 20 hive witnesses. ASAP after the hardfork. Those users shouldn't have to do anything more than others to get what they deserve.
I'm in favor of a quick fix for that, yes.
Nothing wrong with it? I didn't vote anybody anymore and I am on the blacklist honey....
The same thing they did with STINC's stake, which started all of this drama.
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haha cool my words for more than 2 weeks now, happy to see you using them too ;)
Does this mean that accounts less than 1000 will not receive Airdrop?
It means if someone proxied with more than 1000sp and did not unvote the puppets they don't get the airdrop. anyone with less than 1000sp does not get counted as a traitor.
Ok thanks
This whole thing is so hypocritical. A large amount of those witnesses received a chance to mine Steem and that is why they are whales.
So they are fine with a ninjamined stake if they own it, but not if anyone else does.
Cg
Never heard that before. Can you share a link or something where this story is written down?
There are lots of examples, here's one https://steemit.com/freedom/@aggroed/the-twelve-million-dollar-miner-who-is-freedom
Cg
Thanks!