IMMUNIZATION, BENEFICIAL OR DETRIMENTAL?

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Two years ago my son had a fever and when I visited the clinic, I found out that there was an outbreak of fever among children aged 9 months to five years. I inquired more to find out the possible modes of transmission and portal of entry in order to avoid future occurrences. From my research, the doctor told me that it was a viral infection and it will take its full course but this was not satisfactory enough, as a result of this, I visited his school and found out that about 40% of his classmates presented the same signs and symptoms. Upon further inquiry, the teacher told me that pupils below 5years of age were vaccinated for measles in the previous week. And I thought to myself, Without my approval! Hmmmm... Well, I decided to find out what went wrong and educate the public about immunization and the possible consequences. The questions I asked were as follows:

  1. What is immunization?
  2. What was the aim of the immunization?
  3. Why the general immunization?
  4. What went wrong with the vaccine?
  5. Was the immunization program beneficial or detrimental?

What Is Immunization?

Immunization is the artificial confirmatory resistance to infectious diseases. It is the acquisition of specific immunity to a particular disease by injecting antigen or antibodies. Immunization induces a “primed state” in the patient such that on the first contact with the relevant infection, a more rapid effective secondary immune response will be mounted leading to prevention of disease. The vaccine is used for immunization and it's a biological substance that provides specific immunity to an individual. Vaccination is like a “cram” course i.e forced to study by memorization for the immune system making it possible to recognize and fight off the potential invasion by hostile microbes. Vaccination depends on the ability of the B and T- lymphocytes to respond to specific antigen and develop into memory cells, thereby representing a form of actively enhanced adaptive immunity.

The Objectives of Immunization

  1. The most important is the eradication of a disease.
  2. The protection of individuals against the infection
  3. The protection of the individual against the symptom or pathology where the presence of the microbe is not itself harmful.
  4. To block disease transmission.

Oh! the purpose of the general immunization was to prevent the pupils from disease and block transmission, meaning that the authorities wanted to attain herd immunity but the pupils had serious fever symptoms at least for three days preventing them from going to school. Although the fever itself was not harmful but my son was feeling uncomfortable and unwell and I also became worried as I am aware that excessive and persistent fever can cause convulsion which if not properly managed can lead to some neurological deficit. I also had my fair share of the discomfort from the sleepless night during this period. Let me put this question to you, was the aim really achieved?


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What went wrong with the vaccine?

To answer this question, we should understand the types of vaccines available and the properties of a good vaccine.

Types of Vaccine

• The live attenuated vaccines: These vaccines are made from living organism which are either the disease causing organism whose virulence has been reduced by attenuation or organisms of a specie that is related to the causal agent but which are naturally less virulent. Examples of these vaccines include the varicella vaccine (chicken pox), Rotavirus vaccine (nasal spray), measles mumps and rubella vaccines (MMR) etc. This may revert to wild type, if the vaccine is not properly kept.

• The Inactivated vaccines: These vaccines are derived from killed microorganisms and this is achieved through physical or chemical processes but they elicit weak immune response.Non living vaccine may not revert to wild type but the injection is usually painful Examples include the Polio vaccine and Hepatitis A vaccine.

• Toxoid: These vaccines are based on the activities of protein-based toxin produced by certain organisms. The toxin is inactivated or harmless (toxoid) and used as the antigen to elicit immunity. Examples include tetanus and diphtheria vaccine.


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Properties of a good vaccine

A good vaccine should have the following properties:

  1. Effectiveness: A good vaccine must be able to induce an adequate response of the right type. For instance, a pure antibody response will be useless against T.B while a pure cell-mediated response will be useless against Streptococci pneumonia, in another instance, high level of serum antibody may be irrelevant to mucosal protection against polio while the activation of cytotoxic T-cells may be positively harmful in Hepatitis.The duration of response is very important in specific cases for example, short term protection will be achieved where the vaccine merely induces the presence of antibody. On the other hand, for the long term protection memory cells will be required and they will be needed for protection at some time in the future. Living vaccines induce stronger and more lasting immunity than non-living vaccine.

  2. Safety: A good vaccine must not induce damage in the people vaccinated considering that vaccine is the only compounds routinely administered to perfectly healthy people. There should be rigorous safety testing requiring extensive quality control and animal testing.

  3. Stability: Stability refers mainly to live attenuated vaccine, but because of the sensitivity of vaccines to temperature, it has been directed by WHO, that all vaccines should be kept in cold chain. This means that the vaccine doses should remain active right from the manufacturer to the time of administration into the human and this can be achieved by the maintenance of an unbroken cold chain. Wao! with the erratic supply of power in Nigeria! Could this have been the problem? Was there reversion of the vaccine administered to it's wild type?

  4. The cost must be relatively low or cheap enough for all individuals concern.

Was the immunization program beneficial or detrimental?

Beneficial or detrimental? I leave you to answer this, but I decided to prevent my children from subsequent immunization programs, although a good argument may make me have a change of mind.

Thank you for reading, expecting your answers, solutions, comments, and votes.

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I am preventing from vaccines for a long time now. And i'm planning to prevent my future children from them. I don't know, most of them seem ineffective and thet may cause bigger problems.

Are you a medical doctor? Ask your medical doctor about your plan. There are a lot of aspects involved and you might endanger the person you love.

Well i'm not but i think i may pass the epidemic vaccines. Not hepatitis alike of course.

If you didn't read my other comment I can tell you that my fellow Romanians chose not to immunize in the last few years and this year we have 10000 measles cases, 36 child deaths, and we are now Europe's No.1 at measles deaths and infections. Because some artists and popular TV presenters are anti-vaxxers.

Well, i think i haven't been able to express myself clear. I am not against all the vaccines. Measles, poliomyelitis, hepatitis, rubeola etc. are essential on my point of view. Even tetanus's gains and losses can be argued. I'm against vaccines as influenza etc.

I read your whole article and you just said you were against vaccines, so what you say was not obvious from the article.
It is a good choice then, as influenza is not as critical.

Grateful to make a conclusion afterall :) I should have written shomething wrong, sorry about that. I don't want to be a wrong example. My only thought is to stand against influenza kind vaccines just because they are not serving to their purpose.

thank you for your contribution on this topic, i am also not against all vaccines as you have pointed out. however advocacy should be against indiscriminate vaccination.

I believe that the true nature of vaccines is to add some other sort of drug into our systems, basically use people as guinea pigs to see side affects.
Governments have been known for using chemicals on their own people, and big pharma is only interested in making money, sorry I don't trust any of them when it comes to vaccines.

Steemit is not the place for tin foil hats. There is a lot of research on this topic. The big pharma is made of people that go there because of their inner aspirations to do good. People with morals, people with ideals doing the research and the medical work. The big pharma is not only a bunch of accountants rubbing hands hoping of more profit.
Trust me that if one of those high morals people get stepped on, they would make a media mess as big as Snowden episode. You lost your trust in people but think for a minute.

I was surprised to see you accuse anti-vaxx people of wearing tin foil hats - a clearly insulting term. Same was said about those who warned about New World Order and Globalists, but now it is openly talked of by everyone?

You are only qualified to argue for or against if you have studied both sides of an argument. If you are content with only studying the one half, then it is you wearing a tin foil hat for the point of view you have chosen to defend.

Show you have the courage of your convictions by studying the material available in total, not just those points that favour the arguments you prefer. This is how scientists used to think and to my mind, it is how we learnt most of what we know, and it is still how any good scientist or person of logic and reason can arrive at the truth.

Just think of this: If you are wrong (because you choose to follow the elite globalist AND United Nations decision about depopulation) then, by espousing your ideas as facts, you are also responsible for all those killed/sterilised etc for the sake of achieving the depopulation numbers planned for (from 7.6billion to half a billion.) You think I am wrong? Well, what if Bill Gates himself tells you? He clearly tells the interviewer that he will only stop the vaccinations once the world population has reached 'manageable' levels. Check for yourself:



Unless you can prove that @buster544 is wrong, I feel you owe him an apology. Also, who says Steemit is not censor-free? Did you make that decision on everybody's behalf? Does that mean we must first check with you to find what your beliefs are on every subject?

I suggest that in the future you do not attack anybody, even newbies, just put your points across as reasonably as you can. After all, this #steemstem tag is meant to be a scientific one where points of views about facts or theories are open to debate. Oh, you have my permission to not do so where you cannot make reasonable arguments (for instance, when calling employees 'highly moral' as a subjective argument, which implies everyone is else is not, even those sacrificing their careers to tell us what they percieve is the truth - but most scientists who worked for Hitler, I am certain, also believed in what they were doing, even when torturing children, so they were highly moral scientists ). It will not earn you much respect, but you are free to do so as a debating style.

I am qualified to argue since I studied both sides. I finished a technical university, I know how the scientific research method works, I read a lot on the subject, pro and cons and I found the evidence enough for me to safely say that vaccination is beneficial for the individual and for the community with its herd immunity effect. My mother is a Medical Doctor with a PhD in Medicine so we also discussed a lot about this.
While each of us are entitled to their own opinions, one must not forget that some or most of the anti-vaxxers ( that i talked to-and i talked to a lot) do not have a clear scientific understanding of how it works, or why lead or aluminium exists in the vaccine and they get their data out of panic inducing media, that monetizes them for revenue. Add this to a low level of education in some and voila, the conspiracy theory has emerged. The existing biases were reinforced.

As for what Bill Gates said (that video comes with every conspirationist i met), he is referring to the link between population growth and the child mortality rate. As the child mortality rate drops, the next generations start making less children. This is a complete study I read a lot on.

You can find a video edition here to fully understand a part of the study:

I am open for more discussion, and indeed I am sorry for name-calling, but if the OP is wrong and he is hurting his child, is it anyone's fault?

In my country anti-vaxxing is starting to prevail, people stopped children from taking the measles vaccine and guess what : 10000 new cases of measles. Measles was almost extinct in Europe before. While this correlation is not a proof, I am starting to question who is to blame for the 36 children dying of measles. Because the televised mothers cries admitting guilt and lack of documentation (they said they heard from friends that it was not safe) is not something that brought them back to life yet.

Because one's liberty of choice ends right before another's right to live.
Don't let biases overcome logical thought.

You video of the professor is one I have shown to any who panic about the world populations growing to levels where we will collapse. I believe he has died. A pity, as men of reason like him are needed right now.

My biggest problem is the immunity vaccine manufacturers were given. I do not trust any corporation to behave in a responsible or honest manner (just think of the fact that for anyone to make his way up in the corporate ladder, he must be ruthless and a conniving son-of-a-b****.

I also feel strongly about vaccines becoming compulsory. Each parent has final say as to his own child and each adult must keep final say as to his own body. I am elderly, and in my days of childhood, the entire school would go down with measles and a week later we were all back to normal. I wonder when I hear children died, did they die because measles has evolved, or is it because the children are very weak because of the lack of nutrition and all the poisons in their foods.

During my over 70 years, I've had maybe four or five vaccinations (all pre-1980). Do you really think mankind has evolved so badly that we now need children to be vaccinated with over 76 vaccines by the age of 14? That babies really have to be vaccinated against diseases they are highly unlikely to suffer from? Why must the vaccines be administered at same strength for a baby as for an adult? Why so many in one go, instead of them being spread out? There are many questions but few who answer who are not either employed by the industry or financed in some way by Big Pharma - even professors working at universities. Every time info comes out that a professor who declared vaccines to be safe also benefitted financially, it makes even more people distrust everyone.

To revert to your video and the Bill Gates story - and keep in mind that I live in Africa. People stop having a lot of children because they become ambitious. They want a tv, a house, a car and so on. What is happening, as you've seen from the Africans flooding Europe, there is no improvement in life conditions, or here and there just a bit of growth. Vaccinating their kids is not going to stop them having too many babies. It is how the population grew so suddenly over the last 150 years.

  1. "just think of the fact that for anyone to make his way up in the corporate ladder, he must be ruthless and a conniving son-of-a-b****" - you just had an unhappy experience, we are not all like that. In fact I don't know of such a person among my workplace or friends. I am sure there are, but they are not as widespread as you think.

  2. The guy died from cancer - he was aware even in the video. He dedicated all his life to research in Africa and Asia

  3. "Vaccinating their kids is not going to stop them having too many babies. " no, not them but their children and grandchildren will be helped by living in a world without losing 80% of their family by the time they are 20.

I assure you it's not that bad and we will be fine as a species. I am also against mandatory vaccination but I would make the parents pay for the treatment of preventable diseases.

I was not trying to be insulting, or offensive, and I do not wear a tin foil hat, which is an offensive and childish remark, but what about the company that started charging from 5-10 20 dollars a pill to 500-1300 dollars?
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html
as far as your statement:"The big pharma is not only a bunch of accountants rubbing hands hoping of more profit."
Again, I believe there are good people out there doing great things, and are actually making a difference, at least thats what they want to do, but remember, this is not about just "helping " people" but all about profits for shareholders. or there would not be anyone funding them, and yes, government does in fact use chemicals after the fact that good people come up with a great cure, but manipulateate things . its not a tin hat but it is a fact of life.

I know all about that Martin Shkreli and the overpriced pills and I am clearly against his views. As far as i know he is in jail, where he belongs. The practice was illegal. As for the big pharma, I can't generalize, but people like me and you work there. Not all of them are the doormats of the management. I would quit and so would the few people I know that are currently working for big pharma. It also depends on education, morals and the quality of life one has. I would never harm a human being or close my eyes and let it happen. Being distrustful of the whole industry is generalizing and this may affect your judgement. I will have children and I will vaccinate them.

I respect your reply and decisions, I’m happy to hear there are good peope in the world and I never would believe there wasn’t.
Have a good day

here in Italy., parents are obligated to have there children vaccinated. Vaccination certificate is required in enrolling to every daycare center and school. But there are some cases in which some are being exempted in having the complete vaccines.. Supporting documents are required though...

thanks for your comment, it is good for children to be vaccinated the advantages far outweigh the demerit of it.

Good article but I believe that the conclusion is ill fated for the safety of your child whose your protector are. A minor fever or even a mild one is a unwanted side effect of a vaccine, but this pales over in comparison to let's say measles. Or polio. Or any other disease that your child could take .
Why not do a list of the vaccination the state is using ( many times they are using the cheapest one regardless of side effects ) and vaccinate your child with the best vaccine for that condition that you can document online ( you seem to be good at that ) .
This would be a win win for everyone. I am just trying to help.

thank you for all your contributions about this topic. well as a fact l am not against vaccination in its entirety, however what I detest is the indiscriminate use of vaccines on children without consent or accent. I am a microbiologist and I know the importance of immunization as I rightly pointed out in the post. The aim of the post was not to generate controversy about immunization but rather to let the public know about the untoward effect it might have on children especially when quality control is not properly adhere to.

I agree with you, sadly the controversy existed for some years and I wanted to help put some of the concerns to rest. Keep up the good work!

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