RE: The Holocaust: Israel's excuse
@blackliberal, I must commend you for your excellent posts and the depth of thought you put into them. You have guts to touch on a sensitive subject, because you run the risk of being called an antisemite etc etc. The “holocaust” is indeed the sacred cow that is brandished to justify the existence of Israel and the misdeeds it has perpetrated since then. People tend to forget that it is the Balfour Declaration in 1926 whereby England started the process of ceding territories that were not theirs to give to them for the establishment of a Jewish state. (Apart from the Vatican where else do we see a country defined by and purposed for a faith?).
I don’t know how it is in Venezuela, but in Europe the holocaust-as-sacred-cow frenzy is at such an absurd pitch that even engaging in a scientific discussion or empirical research threatening any aspect of the official narrative is a highly dangerous activity punishable by fines, imprisonment and for sure the destruction of one’s (academic) career. Scholars and scientists such as Faurisson, Leuchter, Zundel, Irving and Rudolf are branded “revisionists” the same way as heliocentrists were called heretics under the Inquisition.
With the holocaust hoisted to the level of a quasi religious belief, we have a situation where threats, actual physical and financial harm and ad hominem attacks replace scientific discourse.
The real issue is the limits on freedom of thought and freedom of speech because it is “offensive”.
As to the victim’s anger to justify their own victimization of other, I don’t think it has been given enough focus in victimology research.
(Accessorily, if we did pursue a enquired purely based on facts and evidence and if the conclusions denied the official narratives of such events as the holocaust or 9/11, well …)
Pakistan created at the same time as Israel by the UN just like Israel,
supported by US military funding just like Israel,
Created as an Ethno-religious state just like Israel,
Huge displacement of populations due to it's creation just like Israel,
Yet it also differs from Israel in that,
Even though Pakistan is responsible for the worst genocide of the 20th century, 3 million people killed in nine months ,
No condemnation from the UN or critics like you who pretend your condemnation is based on morality, complete silence.
https://steemit.com/history/@openparadigm/a-comparison-of-the-crimes-of-two-countries-and-how-they-are-viewed-by-the-world-part-two
I can list many other ethno-religious states if you like.
You are right, Pakistan wasn't even on my radar when I made that comment. Thanks for including the link in your post.
I used to think Israel was an oppressive nation and then I started to ask myself "How do other governments act in similar situations?"
My own country Canada faced a terrorist threat from the separatist PLQ after one kidnapping our very liberal prime minister Pierre Trudeau declared martial law throughout the country and rolled out the tanks. One of my friend's Dad went out to protest martial law and hand out PLQ literature, which was verboten, and was promptly arrested.
Compare that with this
From the Oslo Accords (Sept. 1993) until September 2000 - nearly 300 Israelis were killed in attacks.
During the Palestinian Al-Aqsa Intifada (Sept. 2000 - Dec. 2005) another 1,100 Israelis were killed.
Since December 2005, Palestinian terrorist attacks have claimed at least another 223 Israeli lives.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisrael.html
Any moral comparison between the actions of the Israelis and the actions of Islamic Supremacists (which the PLO/Fatah certainly are) shows the Arabs in a very bad light.
The evil deeds of any one camp do not justify or condone the evil deeds of their opponents. We can throw the USA in that infernal mix. Their actions have caused millions of death around the world. There are so many layers to this mess, another being the spread of the caliphate through the officially sanctioned invasion of the EU. The rule of corporations and banks over civilian governments. Not mentioning the erosion of privacy and free speech. One fine mess after another. We don't have enough lifetimes to fight all this injustice (not that it's an excuse not to)...
It is Sunday afternoon, so just a little lightness to close.
When your defending yourself from evil deeds violence is your right and is not evil.
Ever notice that Israel is not committing "evil" against Jordan or Egypt recently?
Ever considered that those who do not attack Israel have nothing to fear from Israel like the %20 of the Israeli population that is Arab and are more prosperous than Arabs in the surrounding area.
Thanks for your comment!
As a student of the German Language, I'm involved with their culture. It was quite shocking for me to know throughout my readings that Germany banned any kind of speech of the Holocaust, it's almost impossible to talk about it from a different perspective in Germany, digging deeper I found that's the same case in other countries. Seems like people is so afraid and as you said the Holocaust is being hoisted at a level of religious belief, which make it unquestionable - don't get me wrong, I do believe in the Holocaust, There's plenty of empirical evidence of it.
I know the Holocaust is a very sensitive and emotional subject, nonetheless, there's much more to be addressed regarding this issue such as what is going on with Israel, that's why I'll keep raising my voice and talk about this issues. I'm not trying to be a conspirator or to initiate something like that. I'm trying to do what other's tried and were regarded as non-intellectual.
It is absolutely fascinating to tease the post-war propaganda from the facts, and how their interplay is continuing to have an impact on currents events. Meanwhile what has been unleashed, regardless of the initial reasons or their initial validity or lack thereof, has developed into major issues in their own right and their genesis is only partially relevant. Regardless of where the finger eventually points, the search for the truth and the fight for justice and peace are paramount. Too many people are suffering at the hands of Israel and its allies, primarily the United States, for us to keep quiet. So yes, let's keep raising our voices.