Steem Pope Sermon: Voting and Flagging

in #steempope7 years ago (edited)

When should you upvote, and when should you flag? Should you vote for yourself, or not? Why or why not? The Steem Pope is here with guidance!

Upvotes

Primarily, upvoting rewards the people you upvote. Secondarily, the one doing the upvoting becomes eligible for curation rewards. The only downside is that each upvote slightly diminishes the weight of subsequent upvotes, and you may need to wait a while for your vote power to recharge. However, this is offset by the ability to reduce the weight behind your votes once you achieve enough Steem Power, so you can decrease your vote weight to stretch the number of votes you can make.

I have no problem with minnows upvoting their own posts, although as a small dolphin, I am beginning to ponder whether I should continue upvoting my own work. On the one hand, I upvote things I like, and I like what I write. On the other hand, I am starting to feel a bit uncomfortable just giving myself magical internet money right off the bat. Your mileage may vary. Do be aware that there are curators who look to support posts that are not self-upvoted too, so you may be foregoing a curation trail if you self-vote your posts.

Do not upvote your own comments on your own posts or the posts of others unless it is to counterbalance an unjust flag. It makes you look egotistical - especially if you comment, upvote yourself, and do not upvote the original post.

In summary:

  • Upvote posts you like.
  • Upvote comments you like.
  • Upvote your own posts or not as you see fit, but it starts to look fishy if you upvote yourself by a large sum.
  • Do not upvote your own comments unless it is in response to an unjust flag.

One final rule: Don't upvote posts unless you read them. The serious bloggers here are interested in getting readers for their writing as much as STEEM rewards. This is also one of the reasons spammy comments from people who obviously haven't read the post in question often annoy bloggers.

Flags

Technically, a flag is a downvote, and is just the inverse of an upvote. It removes rewards from a post, and potentially lowers the poster's reputation. However, I advise caution in using flags. They should be reserved for very specific infractions.

Spam

If someone's posts or comments are frequent and devoid of substance, it may be worthy of a flag. This is especially true for empty comments like "great post!" However, be aware that there are some users who leave honest short compliments, so don't be too hasty to flag such comments without first checking the user's habits and interaction overall.

Abuse

If someone is insulting, threatening, trolling, or otherwise mistreating other Steemians, flag them. We need to police the community ourselves first and foremost.

Miscategorized posts

This primarily covers NSFW content that is not properly labeled. Pornography, artistic nudity, violence, and profanity are all NSFW. However, there are also Steemians who use popular tags in posts that are about unrelated topics. If I used the photography tag in this post, it would be tag spam, because this is not a photography post.

Plagiarism

This is a big issue on Steemit. If you didn't make it, provide attribution. If you're just copy/pasting someone else's work, even with attribution, you're still a plagiarist. If you're a plagiarist, you deserve a flag. Note that this is distinct from fair use, such as substantive commentary using selected quotations to illustrate a book review, or embedding a Youtube video as part of a larger post.

Fraud

If someone is running a scam, flag it. This can include pyramid schemes, phishing attempts, promotion of malware-infested sites, or anything else.

Disagreement over post rewards

This is a thorny issue, and I hesitate to take a support it. However, if spam, abuse, plagiarism, or mis-categorized posts are getting a huge payout, flag away.

I do suggest leaving a comment explaining the purpose of a flag. Some things, such as any tags after the first, can be fixed. Sometimes minnows make mistakes because they see so many others doing the same things, and just don't realize that it is poor netiquette. If you find plagiarism or abuse, consider reporting it to @steemcleaners, too. They have a website, a steemit.chat channel and a Discord channel.

There are some basic situations where a flag is not warranted. Disagreement with a post does not warrant a flag. A civil comment presenting a counterargument is in order if you think any response is warranted at all. If you are flagged for spam, abuse, plagiarism, etc. and the flagger leaves a comment explaining why the flag was applied, flagging the courtesy comment is not warranted either, and is likely to result in more flags.

Your thoughts?

What are your personal policies on flags and voting? I usually upvote posts at 100% vote power, upvote comments at 10% vote power, and flag somewhere in the ballpark of the post or comment rewards accrued to counter balance the illegitimate earnings. Egregious and flagrant repeated abuse gets a full flag. I am open to new ideas on how you vote, and I may be willing to adjust my own voting/flagging patters based on your feedback.

May the Blog be with you, and may the Blockchain bless you. Go forth, and create original content! Amen.


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Bit of a pet peeve of mine when I see spam upvoting their own comments as well. Granted their upvote is usually so worthless it’s just laughable; but, when they are pushing 80% self upvote that’s already just sad.

I have debated internally with myself on upvoting my own blogs for a while now. It is in fact hurting me a little bit. So far my own vote I believe counters that impact. But still as I find more opportunities that reward behaviors certain ways it will have to be evaluated again and again.

At some point I’m hoping I just have built up enough support that I no longer even need think of up voting my blogs ever again. This would not even require a massive following for my blog either just finding the right opportunities.

I really enjoy comments and I’ve bene recognized now a few times for my efforts in that area. Who knows what the next day or months will bring in for opportunity to enjoy.

Let me get the nasty topic of flagging out the way first (partly in reference to the sordid & personally targeted practice of the various 'let it all hang out' flag wars) I have not flagged or considered flagging any posts yet - unless you count the 'Oops I don't mean to do that, stupid touchscreen phone' finger clumsiness - believing that withholding a vote or remaining silent as a response, is sometimes speaks louder than a flag.

Upvoting my own posts: pointless, as I don't have any SP to even make a 1c impact, but besides that, I don't need to record my opinion of my own post for everyone to see, I can physically give myself a pat on the back if I'm happy with it :)

Upvoting other posts: I make sure that I have read the post and am of the opinion that it's good quality, by asking myself if I would be prepared to resteem it, amongst other things. I don't give any thought to when I vote, as reward is not the reason for my vote. I have, on occasion, voted before the 1st 15 minutes to ensure I did not get curation rewards.

PS: Thanks for the clarity on reasons for flagging. Consarn it! I didn't realise profanity was considered NSFW, seeing as it's such an integral part of society in general ;)

CONSARN IT! I forgot to mention that posts should be read first before being upvoted. I'll edit the post now...

I usually use this same concept to vote and leave flags, Steem Pope, the only thing I do not completely agree with is not being able to vote for oneself, I believe that the creator's will was to give us the power to vote for ourselves.

Just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.

It's true ... you're right....

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Thanks for the information, from now on I will use these recommendations, for example, I was thinking and, in addition to the reasons why he told us why it is not recommended to vote for myself, I also thought "why do it, if my vote Is it only 0.01? " hahaha

Well, not to brag, but my self-vote can be worth a dollar or more since I have been around for so long, and I could obnoxiously abuse the system for personal gain at this point. But I had to be a good Steemian to get here, and i'm already in the habit of being semi-decent.

Very informative :) Thanks

It turns out we've been wrong assumption. our little fish always upvote its own post and upvote our comments.
We thought we had to gather a lot of votes starting from ourselves.
Actually we have not really understood this steemit. start learning it and not actively read important posts like this.
maybe our little fish is greedy, hope something will be great with the instant.
Apparently using this steemit must have a loyal etitut.
thanks for this important information @jacobtothe

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