Steemiquettes²

in #steemitquettes8 years ago (edited)

Hey everyone!

It's been almost a full year since I posted my Steemiquettes post and I thought I'd brush up a bit on it again. Another great relevant post about this was recently posted by @krystle which I re-steemed and can be found here.

Even though a lot of time has passed, the steemiquettes have not changed all too much, feel free to read my old post and @krystle's if online interacting is something new to you and you might not be aware what's frowned upon.

In this post I wanted to share how I use Steemit myself and give a few thoughts to each point. Feel free to discuss them in the comment section below.


As a Steemit user, I

- like to interact a lot, a big reason to why my stats look like this


I find interactions being one of the best ways to engage with users and build a following and connect with them. The different chats are also a great way to get to know users better. Remember that its a social media platform after all and just like Nokia's slogan "connecting people" it's a big part of the platform here as well.
One thing that grinds my gears is seeing authors post away and never interact with the commenters or other authors on their posts, it feels a lot like they either don't care much for others or are in it just for the posting rewards and see the interactions as their "fanbase" who don't deserve their time. Of course everything has its limits, I don't expect authors that receive 100+ comments each post to be able to answer to all of them, but what I do expect is for them to at least acknowledge they've read them when they do and reward the time those users have spent on their post with a small vote. Its the least they can do since followers and comments is what make their posts whole. As the platform has taught us also that attention = money, time = money, those users who interact with authors and leave comments could very well have spent the time writing posts instead or doing something else if they never see any rewards come out of it which leads to interactivity dropping and some authors never see much comments on their post because of that.

- never vote on my own comments, unless its important for them to be visible on top of a post

My psychology behind this is a bit mixed since I run a curation trail and I feel that voting on my own comments wastes voting power that could be spent on countless other users posts. But even if I weren't to have a curation trail I think of it this way - my votes going to someone else's comment might brighten their day up and feel appreciated, same way when I wake up and first thing I do is check my Steemit account, the feeling of having received votes from others on my comments is a lot better than just having voted on them myself. This is of course a bit controversial since many users see it as "its my comment, I should vote and reward myself for being active on the platform" - to those users, the only thing I can think of is "isn't being rewarded for making posts and comments from others more than enough? Which other site rewards you for interacting on them? Do you like your own facebook statuses and comments on other users there too?

- if you don't have anything positive to say about someone's post, it might be better not to say anything at all

We all have our bad days, and I am not one who never abides by this rule. I might write sarcastic comments to other people's posts depending on how I view them, but we have to remember that all of us are unique, have unique experiences and see things from a different perspective. What we might see in one way, many other users might not. This does not mean you aren't free to express your opinions but keep in mind to do it in a civil manner. This brings me to my next point:

- don't flag comments based on your opinion

If you have to flag to show how much you are against it, at least make sure your flag is not so big that it hides the comment from view. Everyone has opinions and "silencing" these comments is not the best way to go forward as it might be viewed as censorship. The flags are merely there to bring balance to rewards and to counter abuse, not to make it possible for you to hide them from other readers. Of course this is just my opinion, but think of it this way; you flagging someone's comment so the other readers have to click "show hidden comment" could cause unnecessary drama and curiosity of other readers as to why you handled it this way. I see many authors who flag any negative comments on their posts which in the end makes the authors themselves look bad as they can't take any criticism or feedback. Even on the @matttrainer post I tried to warn people in the chats not to flag all his comments, it just makes it harder for the readers to view and can be seen as censorship. Although I understand that was a sensitive issue its better to reply your opinion and just add a tiny flag making sure others know about it but still leaving the comment visible. This is of course just an issue to the front-end and all posts and comments can be viewed on the blockchain unrelated to the amount of flags they have received. I'm sure we will figure out better ways how to deal with this in the future as the site is growing and evolving constantly.


Thanks for reading, feel free to discuss the points in the comment section and which etiquettes you feel are important to you.

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I like this. Its valuable to learn about steem etiquette in a post like this because .... how else would we know? Eitquiette is not neccearily natural or intrinsic. In fact its completely social. So this is perfect:)

very concise - i would think these are common sense actions but sometimes common sense isn't that common 😉. although i'm not a big timer (yet😒) i reply to every comment or reply to my comment that someone leaves to acknowledge that i appreciate the time they've taken - it's the least i can do and i've been able to strike up some interesting conversations that way which is really why i'm here in the first place. keep on steeming!

My first action is always to check the comments: then I reply to everyone and give them a vote, for newbies and small accounts it is a great way to get something out of their effort to interact and for me it is fun and knowing my followers better.

never vote on my own comments, unless its important for them to be visible on top of a post

Some other exceptions for me: If I'm being flagged without a clear justification or my comment is pointing something out and likely to be flagged in retaliation.

I see it like raising your voice or shouting. There are times where it's appropriate or even necessary, but generally it's a faux pas.

Yeah, good points! The worst is when I see small-time users get flagged by bigger accounts cause they wrote criticizing comments on their posts - thankfully with more and more readers these will be countered over time. Although I can understand a little bit the thought behind "its my blog and my steempower - I can flag whichever comment I don't like" it still makes you come off in a bad light. Its kinda like comparing youtube videos that have comments/likes disabled, you know that most of the time the content of it is not good/true.

I agree..some people dont like to accept opposing positions or opinions and then tend to punish those who disagree with them with a downvote. This is unethical and should not go unpunished. Good point

I'm new to Steemit and to blogging in general, but I've already been impressed that some more established online personalities (for lack of a more accurate term) like @theywillkillyou take time to personally check out the profiles and posts of those who comment on their posts, and give an upvote. It feels good when that happens to us, and I support that we should all do that as a common courtesy as well. I am certainly doing my part to make that a habit now. :)

Then again, there's also that mild disappointment I feel when I see that someone copied and pasted their comment on multiple posts. Somehow feels like the solid support and sincere camaraderie of this platform is somehow slightly smudged by that action. Hope that the community will rally around and each make a personal stance not to do stuff like that, so that we can maintain the authenticity of our community activity.

Btw, thanks for your guide creation and update. It's really useful for us new users to understand and assimilate into the culture here.

Cheers!

Great post, your point makes a lot of sense. I used to vote on my own comments at (1-3days old) in steemit, but soon realized there isn't any point doing that!
Another opinion of mine added to the next point is asking/begging for follows and acting like there is an any opinion about the content that the steemian posted :(
Good read! Strong values that all if not most steemians should have!
Have a good weekend!

That is a good point . Some members just copy and paste posts: follow me and I follow you which is very annoying and counter productive.

Thanks, you too!

welcome, always. Keep up the good posts and lets stay in touch.

Nicely written.

As a small author I respond to almost all the comment( excluding only stuff like "Nice post" ) and I believe everyone should do that.

But if you receive too many comments, it is indeed tough to respond to all of them.

All in all I just want to say is 'Nice post'.
(P.S.- How did you separate the number of posts and the number of comments?)

I agree. It takes a lot of time to respond to loads of comments and some are just copy and paste comments looking for upvote. However most are very good and should be rewarded. Thanks for your comment

Thank you mate!

you are welcome , always

(P.S.- How did you separate the number of posts and the number of comments?)

Steemitboard.com

And yeah - wish the spammy users would learn that automated comments won't get you far. Seems like lately its mostly from non-english speakers though and most understand that originality is the way to go - guess this will be improved a lot later when we have people posting in all sorts of languages in their own communities.

Hope so. Just recieved one such comment on my blog lol

Yeah, they appear now and then - a lot less frequently than they used to, though!

Yes. It is probably because of the huge influx of new users here.

They probably think it is how steemit works.

I agree with pretty much everything you say here especially about interaction. I feel that the comments are where the magic happens, often I won't follow somebody unless I've had a good interaction with them in the comments. As for flags, not that my vote matters yet, but I believe flagging should only be used in cases of severe abuse, at least that's what I would use it for. And abuse seems pretty much nonexistent on steemit right now.

I feel that the comments are where the magic happens

Yes!<3

I'm happy you agree.

I am agreeing with you in every single aspect, @acidyo!
Although we should take all of these things as a common sense, I think sometimes our wanting to earn value gets the better of ourselves.
Although that makes it a nice way to distinguish sharks from investors, but I think from time to time every single one of us just forgets to check even the most basic things. I think question comes of the frequence of flagging, leaving negative/downgrading comments and voting for your own comments.
Still checking our behaviour is extremely important.
Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the comment!

You're welcome! Always up for supporting quality content!

I do agree with you on this one , it is always nice to see the person who writes the post engage with people commenting on their post. Regarding flagging when people copy and past i do agree to it some how, if they don't give credit to the person who has written the original post or when they go on a ramp page about another Steemian. I am sure there is another platform where people can sort out their differences then in the public.Great post !!

Hehe, guess you posted your comment by accident a bit too early earlier. :P

Thanks for your thoughts!

BIG SMILE !!! yes that is the edited version :)

Thanks for the update and links to the previous/additional posts.

I'm also adding this to my "steem guide" folder in my browser as it seems the best way to try and keep some kind of a handle on the helpful info that floods my feed.

Upvoted and resteemed.

Yeah - wish we were able to "sticky" our own posts so newcomers would more easily find them. Maybe soon we will be able to!

So far, the "steem guide" folder in my browser has worked pretty well, but it's becoming clear I'm going to need to start creating sub-folders and categorizing.

Not a bad problem to have, i.e an overabundance of accurate info on how to succeed.

Now if I can just get my teenage son to read and apply what's in there.

I'm thinking of telling him he's "absolutely forbidden" to look in those folders.

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