The one about Voting Bots

in #steemit7 years ago

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Voting Bots, a hot topic of debate. The popularity of voting bots has exploded especially since the arrival of the Steem Bot Tracker service. This service makes using the Bid-voting bids easy by introducing a user-friendly payment system (powerd by Steemconnect) and a clear overview of bids. With the Steem Bot Tracker service you get all the relevant info about the bots and even a suggestion for the amount you should bid to maximize your investment.

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There are a lot of people who are against voting-bots and there are those who see the bots as an useful tool. Both sides have valid arguments to support their case.

A voting bot is nothing else than a well-funded account that sells its voting power to those who are willing to pay. In case you are unfamiliar with the Steemit voting mechanism I will explain in short how it works.
First there is the reward pool which consist of the newly created Steem created by the blockchain. The Steem in the reward pool is meant to be divided between the users on the Steem Blockchain (read content creators and curators). The people on Steemit in fact are the ones who decide how the rewards are divided by upvoting, the more Steem Power you have the more voting power you get. The amount of Steem Power you wield will decide how much of the reward pool you get to divide among your fellow Steemians.

The whole voting system is a well designed method of allocating the Steem among the users. The idea is that the better the content the more the author will be rewarded for their efforts.


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Here is the rub, in the case of the voting bots there is no upvoting based on real curation but upvoting because someone pays for the upvote. In this case the naysayers have a point, money from the reward pool is bought by those who have the means to do so and not because the content was upvoted by other content creators/curators based on the quality of the content.
Is this a case of Reward pool abuse or not? Steemit has always given the users the freedom to experiment and try out new things on the platform.

One could say that if you have earned your Steem that you are free to spend it how you see fit. On the other hand Voting bots give those with large (Steem) pockets an unfair advantage over those who yet have to earn some substantial Steem.


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This menacing evil looking bot is actually the leader of a rogue group of bots bent on world domination and threatening all that we hold dear. Don't be fooled by the smile...

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But on the other hand. The use of an account as a voting bot is a very clever use of a Steemit account and it serves a purpose. One of the things that is very important on Steemit is visibility. When you submit a post on Steemit you have a week create as much exposure for your post as possible. To achieve this there are some great tools available like post-promotion on Steemit Chat, Discord, but also voting bots.

The best way to create momentum for your post is to get a spot on the trending page. To get on the trending page first you will need to earn a spot on the hot page. And to get on the hot page you need to get some upvotes shortly after you posted. A voting bot is a great way to get on the hot page. If your post can keep getting upvotes you will get a trending post. A spot on the top of the trending and hot pages will give your post a lot of exposure, people will see your post regardless of the fact if they are following you or not. Also people are more inclined to read hot and trending post to see what the fuss is about.


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Voting bots are a tool to give your post that boost to get on the hot page or even the trending page (if you are willing to pay for it). It is always painful when you have created a top notch writeup to see it go unnoticed, so if you can promote your post by using a voting bot, you can get some more views (and hopefully upvotes for your post).

However there are some things to consider when using voting bots.

  • Are you using the voting bots to promote your post or earn Steem trying earn a little something, something?

  • Dropping a 100 SBD on a voting bot can get you on the trending page but is it really fair use of the service?


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One could argue that voting bots have no place on Steemit and that accounts were never intended to be used like this way. On the other hand who are we to say that this is true, we don’t really know what the creators of Steemit had in mind when they were laying down the ground works. Maybe they were creating an environment with a lot of freedom so that the users could use their creativity to come up with great new applications.

Whether you like it or not, voting bots are here and are not going away. Maybe with HF20 things will change but as far now we will have to deal with the current situation.


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My stance on voting bots is that they are an useful promotion tool and whenever I use one it is not for getting more in return than I put in but only to boost the exposure of my post.
Although I am well aware that there are some that are exploiting the voting bots for things that are often referred to as “Reward Pool rape or abuse”.

Voting Bots Malice or Miracle? Let me know in the comment section....


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I think this is one of the alternatives that should be accepted in steemit. on the basis of it there are many reasons everyone uses a vote bot "steem bot tracker", because many of us are still difficult to get votes and rewards are worth it. but using it also requires good analysis, otherwise the loss will come to the user.

But that's the main question, are you willing to pay, in other words, accept a loss for promotion?

my opinion, the normative of any promotion anywhere of course, and of course applies also in steemit. But of course all back to each of them, because for users who uphold steemit idealist then they will have a different perspective, such as improving the quality of content.

I used a couple post recently. and I was not super enthusiastic about the outcome to be honest. It maybe got me one or two extra votes but not like the sky opened up all of a sudden hahahaha.

I understand people use the, but its not for me. Using ONLY bots and ALWAYS doesnt seem like the right way to go, from my perspective

A lot of people seem to be using bots all the time for a variety of reasons. I like bots but only for promotional purposes. My experience is that using a voting bot does earn you some extra upvotes.

I don't mind voting bots but some people must spend a lot of time using so many. It's all too complicated and time consuming. Would be good if we could just pay once and get the optimum boost in visibility.

There were bots like bellyrub and booster that did that, don't know if they are still around though.

So I think you have a point of this being a good way to promote a post. But, how would you keep people from using it the other way, just to make a good ROI? I'm still on the fence about the whole thing. I'm just not sure if they feed into the whole "this place is only for making money" mentality. Don't get me wrong, the idea of making money off content is a huge reason why we're all here but, if that's the only reason, I'm not sure this platform will ever take off. I think personally looking for and upvoting and/or interacting with good content (regardless of reputation) is a mentality that could do wonders here. Who knows though, blockchain has thrown everything I know about economics out the window, so who's to say it won't do the same for content.

Things keep constantly changing here on Steemi, there is no telling how things might turn out. Votings bots are hot now but things might change after the hard fork. The last hard fork had quite an impact....

Very good post, thanks for sharing.

Thank you very much, glad you liked it.

Very useful for us who need support.

Yes, but the system is being exploited by those who already have a lot of Steem. Actually there are some flag wars going on right now about reward pool abuse and it is hurting the platform.

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