The Daily Coverup - 4/12/18 - Transparency Under Attack.

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

The following voters have downvoted the bidbot summary comment left by @Transparencybot.

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What is this report?

One of the reactions to the summaries being left by Transparency Bot is to downvote the comment in an effort to hide it or at least put it at the bottom of the list so no one will notice it. Of course, the voter probably also hopes to degrade the reputation of this project and associated tools. There may be other reasons for downvoting, yet, the end result is the same and the comment becomes hidden from all those interested in this transparency as they are no longer able to see the bidbot totals.

This report shows the largest voter (per link) who downvoted and also provides a link to that comment to allow you to restore its visibility (by upvoting the comment) if you so choose.

  • Voter = The account that cast the heaviest downvote.
  • VIS = The remaining visibility of the comment. Zero means the comment is no longer visible.
  • DV = The down vote weight cast by the voter.
  • REP = The reputation of the voter.
  • Link = The link to the comment that was downvoted.

The list updated routinely and automatically. The visibility of these comments can be very dynamic.

Thank you upvoter's for your support!

VoterVISDVREPLink
@danizaharie0.0000-10067.8https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-stock-photography-and-blockchain-finally-fit-together--bidbot
@masteryoshi0.0000-10042.9https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-to-be-coming--bidbot
@angelinafx0.0000-10060.8https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-day-1-eth-usd-predict-your-price-give-away-upvote-1-sbd-wednesday-april-11-2018--bidbot
@brandonfrye0.0000-10062.1https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-introducing-minnow-fund-assisting-minnows-through-funding-and-education--bidbot
@usernamerelevant0.0000-10055.6https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-sultry-taco-tuesday-food-porn-pics-full-recipes--bidbot
@writesbackwards0.3180-10067.3https://steemit.com/@transparencybot/re-extras-in-philly--bidbot

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The problem is not the content you are providing. Post reports all day. Anyone can see all this public info anyway. Just stay off other people’s comments. Let the community decide what they want. If people want to read your report I’m totally cool with it. Every side has a view and opinion.... but this is just spam. Comments should be about the content of the post.

Yeah, this bot isn’t going to be around much longer at this rate. These reports are encouraging more spam, and quite frankly, flag wars. I already have a plan to take care of this on my end. Anybody who upvotes these spam comments on my post (@minnowfund) will have to deal with me. There really should be an “upvote at your own risk” warning in the post above. Because there will be consequences. I won’t allow anybody to use my posts as a billboard for their opinion and a place to beg for upvotes and donations.

I myself will make sure to flag @transparencybot every single time...

If you want to continue this battle by upvoting it, I guess I'll find a reason to flag you stronger

This disrespectful actions have no space on blockchain... My articles are for reading & engaging

Not for your brilliant idea to promote your shitty bot that is completely irrelevant & won't bring nothing in long term

Wanna battle? Bring it on.

Btw I even upvoted your shitty bot, so the fact you are bringing out these false statements makes me enraged

Nice to hear I’m not alone. I followed you and will take a peak at what you got going on @minnowfund. Seen it before but haven’t dug too deep.

Thanks brandonfrye. I don't have a problem with the opinion of this poster, but he is upvoting his own spam to the top of my comments page. Leeching off my fiction to get attention for spam steps over the line. If only I ran multiple anonymous accounts like this "transparency advocate" does.

Agreed. Having an opinion how the platform should work does not give one the right to spam other creators comments.

Exactly! Post reports all day long if you want, but do it in your own post!

I've seen a little push back of my own, but nothing like what you're seeing. I just scrolled through your replies and people are downright childish and mean.

...this must be a community effort or it WILL fail.

You're engaging the community in an open dialogue, welcoming their feedback, learning from it and implementing changes. I'd say you're doing everything right and getting obvious support so try not to get discouraged and keep up the awesome work!

Thank you my friend, your comments are very encouraging.

I have no intention of giving up, I am fighting for the survival of this platform and it is VERY apparent there is real support from those who feel the same way (like yourself) and feel this platform is worth the fight. Some are helping by voting while others are very active. It is so humbling to see this.

Blessings!

Suggestions: Keep doing what you are doing, but "purify" it: (1) Remove ALL spammy parts. (2) Put all explanations onto a web page, and just provide a link to that page. ("Click HERE for more information.") (3) Put all detail for the particular post onto another web page that is just for that post. (Requires some software development.) (4) Get your comment down to a single line that just says something like, "This post received $162.52 USD in upvotes from bidbots. For a breakdown by bot, click HERE. For more general information click HERE.".

Thank you very much for the support you have shown these last couple of days.

I changed the message this morning.

I want to leave the enumerations in place, authors would probably NOT like a link that pulls the viewer from their post and of course it also causes obfuscation of the full list.

To have a link for each bot or the entire list, would require I setup a server outside of Steemit to handle the link requests and parsing, so it is just not programmatically possible at this time.

Let me know what you think of the new message, I believe it is much more palatable.

https://steemit.com/recipe/@transparencybot/re-yum-roasted-seafood-with-emon-and-herbs--bidbot

I've dealt with this particular "food blogger" - don't expect the post will be up much longer.....

Just create your own post! If this is the content you want to share with the community... by all means... do it. It’s always gonna be spammy if you are doing it in other people’s posts. Do a daily report... but stay off others pages with this. I don’t care if content is good or bad. This is just as bad as the spam for bid bots. I’m not against you or what you are doing. I am against the way it is done. Post your own stuff let people read it if they want to!

Much better. The last two paragraphs are superfluous. I suggest this, which aggressively cuts away the fat, leaving ONLY the meat. Round to the nearest dollar. Don't report bots rounded to 0. I strongly advocate that you envision a single line post such as:

This post has received $128 USD votes from the following bidbots: $43 upme; $41 buildawhale; $36 promobot; $8 postpromoter.

Thanks again for the feedback.

The "No judgement" line has proven to be required as MOST of the feedback I have received has been that the bot is "judging" their post. After adding this statement, I received very little "judegment" feedback.

The single line and rounding has merit. Thanks.

I think that your idea is hilarious and is going to be very effective. You get my vote for "most valuable player" in this game against those who are gaming this system. I'm a newbie here, but I'm also a trained economist and am 63 years old. "Proof of mind" is the heart of steemit; curation must remain 100% human to be effective.

Hilarious is certainly not the reaction I was aiming for :)

"Proof of mind" is the heart of steemit; curation must remain 100% human to be effective.

Man you said it!

BTW: You've only got me in age by less than moons than you might think.

Again, the community support is truly humbling ... Thank you all.

Your bot posts are hilarious because I suspect that most, if not all, of the people who use autovote bots know that they are gaming the system, selfishly harming the platform. For such people, your bot's posts are like flinging open the bathroom door intentionally on someone who is masturbating at a party. So embarrasing for the victim. So funny for everyone else!

In my world view, the credit for brilliance such as yours goes to God, not to you. But you get credit for saying YES to the inspiration.

Every chance you get, remind people that "proof of mind" is the heart of steemit and that curation must remain 100% human.

We have perhaps well meaning people like @heart-to-heart here speaking the idea that "everyone does it so it can't be wrong", where "it" in her case refers to using a bot to automatically upvote every post by anyone on a person's list of supported people. I've told her that if everyone did that, curation would become a popularity contest and would be driven by cliques that would devolve further into one single oppressive mob, eventually driving all minority thinkers off of the platform.

Believe me, I share your world view. Everything I do, I attempt to do for our Lord. I pray that my motives are pure.

Agreed!

I have stated repeatedly, when someone remarks, "I only use them so my post can be seen."

with,

If everyone pays bidbots to be seen; then eventually, NO posts will be seen, only paid for.

Blessings and thanks for the common sense outlook.

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thats is very good

interesting. you feel these folks are covering something up. But is it you that is covering something up? Why spam so many posts in one day... over the course of a week? What's your agenda?

i am looking into this and deciding an action. But it appears that you're spamming these people relentlessly for no good reason. we can't have that now

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