@tipU Delegations Profitability Check: 17.10.2018
All right, it seems that the dust after the HF20 deployment has finally settled down - it's time to check @tipU SP delegations profitability and how it compares to other services.
For comparision we'll be using the new website: steem apr which was build using https://www.steemdesk.com as a foundation.
The website displays investment returns for a single user @wefund - who delegated his STEEM POWER to many different services so it's a great way to compare the profit coming from those delegations.
You can see that @tipU presents solid performance with #2 spot but the #1 - @estabond is unbeatable here with 181% APR :D It's a small bidding bot with about 2k SP + few small delegations.
Now, as I understand, what's happening here is that @estabond sends his own profit, coming from his 2k SP, to delegators - which really boosts the profitability for delegators. It's a really good service to delegate few SP but remember that with every new delegation, the profit from those 2k SP will be watered down and the APR will drop.
Aside from that I really like the fact that @tipu is still in the top in terms of profitability. Also notice very solid performance from @smartsteem which seems to got better after HF20.
@tipu profit for 2000 sp
Yesterday 2000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.486 SBD + 0.34 STEEM (0.76 USD), APR: 17.07% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 2000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.Sorry @Cardboard I did not mean to hurt you on the Battlefield of SteemMonsters................
Haha, fighting talk there
Haha :D Twice in a row! Those gold cards...
Once I reach a decent amount of Steem Power, I will definitely consider delegating some of it to tipu.
Who doesn't love passive income? :D
You can also use @tipU to invest - which works kinda like a investment fund. Just send SBD or STEEM to @tipU with memo: invest which will be treated as sp delegation.
If you want your money back, just send 0.001 SBD to @tipU with memo: refund
Please feel free to test it, more info should appear below in a moment: @tipu help
The invest guide is outdated though :) the SBD and STEEM that you send are no longer converted to actual STEEM POWER so you can always refund it without need to wait (for power down).
@cardboard is there a maximum to invest?
Yep, currently @tipu has 3k SP to spare which means that max 6k STEEM/SBD can be invested.
Okay! :) and where can I find the overview of how many steem or sbd I have currently invested, if there is an overview? :)
Sure, you can send 0.001 SBD to @tipU with memo: status or write a comment: @tipu status
@tipu profit for 80sp
Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.156 SBD + 0.328 STEEM (0.43 USD), APR: 18.89% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.@tipu profit for 1000 sp
Yesterday 1000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.324 SBD + 0.208 STEEM (0.48 USD), APR: 21.98% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 1000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.@full-measure, This APR % is not true, I saw @zoef (2000 SP delegated to TipU) got an return with: 0.546 SBD(=0.666 STEEM) + 0.221 STEEM = 0.887 -> (0.887 x 365)/2000 = 0.1618 -> ARP: = 16.18%
The APR listed on the website is an average from 20 (or more) last days.
Daily APR varies, sometimes it's 16%, sometimes it's 22% - depending on the day.
Edit - oh, you're not referring to the website. Give me a sec.
everyone know that we got a good APR% from most of bots in couple weeks ago, up to 25% + but APR % now is at around 16%. The upvote rate has been dropping lower and lower, can be sometime 16% and sometime 22% now.
2 days ago @tipU had a good day ;) And in fact it was 22% if you measure the profit generated between 00:00 and 00:00
Let's try this:
Even though user B received his payout only five minutes after user A, his profit and APR was far better than user A - for this day.
Which APR for this day is right?
Of course user A will receive the profit from 50 SBD vote in the next payout - next day.
As for the other bots - for the love of God, just click it ;) https://www.steemprofit.info/
That means some day will eat part profit of the previous or the next day, but the overall 3 days profit is remaining the same in average. Are you giving the flat rate 10% to the bidders and there is no overbid with @TipU right?
Well, if the situation with user A and B happens on the 3rd day, the 3-day average will still be slightly different and it will need another day to balance itself out. As for the second question, you probably noticed the answer in second comment :)
Hope this helps.
17 minutes ago is not yesterday! Not in @tipu time zone at least ;) You can check yesterday`s transfer to @zoef.
0.523 SBD (0.638 STEEM) + 0.404 STEEM = 1.042 STEEM -> (1.042 * 365) / 2000 = 19%
It's a little lower because the reported one is calculated for profit that comes between 00:00 and 00:00 next day.
@zoef payout might came from profit that was generated, for example, between 09:00 and 09:00 next day so part of the higher profit was paid day ealier. And in fact you can see, that 2 days ago @zeof payout was even higher (0.672 SBD and 0.432 STEEM -> 1.252 STEEM -> APR 22,8%)
It's best to take an avarage from several days - this can be done here: https://www.steemprofit.info
I got your point but 22% to 19% in couple hours?? So I hope that the system will give the right APR % for today!
There is no true APR - it depends on the user. Every user receives payout at slightly different time which means that yesterday's APR is slightly different for each user. But when you sum up the last few days, it will be the same for every user.
The listed APR in @tipU comment is just a statistic. If you would delegate at preceisly 00:00 - the listed APR is the same as yours. But if you delegated at 01:00 it will be slightly different because other vote requests generated your profit.
Here's the thing: the APR can be calculated for one specific time frame - up to a single point (00:00). But @tipU can't send payouts to 400 users at this same, single moment.
Once again - it's a lot more informative to take the average from several days at https://www.steemprofit.info
I will add this link to @tipU profit comment.
I see you have edited the comment - once again, I do not calculate APR for every user separately (the "right" APR).
When someone asks @tipu for profit for 1000 SP or any other number - it has to be calculated based on total tipU profit, not on a single user - because which one I would use?
And 22% to 19% could be in 12 hour or more. This 3% difference is around 50 STEEM in total @tipu profit. One higher vote request.
Ah, I did not know that you reply that fast but overall, wish you the best. All cleared to me that everything is just in "estimation" Thanks for the reply!
Btw, do you still give 10% upvote profit to the bidders?
Thank you for the wishes :)
As for bidders - it's more like payers, because @tipU is not a bidding bot.
The upvote ROI depends on demand/supply of the upvotes and ranges between 0% and +20% (so no negative ROI like some bidding bots).
Current upvote return can be checked at any time and @tipu profile page.
Best of luck!
@tipu profit for 3600 steem
Yesterday 3600.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.56 SBD + 1.18 STEEM (1.55 USD), APR: 18.87% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 3600.0 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.@tipu profit for 3600 steem
Yesterday 3600.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.83 SBD + 0.384 STEEM (1.12 USD), APR: 14.34% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 3600.0 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.
@tipu profit for 3850 steem
Yesterday 3850.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.776 SBD + 0.599 STEEM (1.23 USD), APR: 14.93% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 3850.0 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.
@tipu profit for 80sp
Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.156 SBD + 0.328 STEEM (0.43 USD), APR: 18.87% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.@tipu status
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Looks like a great return @tipu. Keep up the good work!
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