How so? You didn’t design anything of SugarSteem. I think you’re trying to take credit for something you didn’t create. If you look at the build of my history of wireframes the evolution to a visual treatment is very much the same. Not quite too sure how much you feel you’ve evolved the design.
Are you denying that @itinerantartist created the original visual designs? Even if you have altered them, were those original visual designs created by @itinerantartist or not?
My personal standard is to give credit where credit is due. If the base visuals being worked on was created by another, it is not cool to refuse to give credit. That you are doing so with another Steemian, worse.
yes, the visual design prior to these recent two posts was 100% mine. here is a screenshot i took today of my file, which has 14 different page iterations of custom designs i made. I'm gutted. On vacation in France and literally broke down and cried over this last night. It is profiting off the back of work I did. It is wrong. And if this is what Steemit supports, I suppose I don't belong here at all.
Source file name: Screen Shot 2018-04-29 at 10.50.38 PM.png, for timestamping purposes.
Seriously? You’re trying to claim IP, design aesthetic or UI? I don’t agree here. It’s been my work from the beginning that you as a freelancer have skinned the UI.
None of the high fidelity wireframes are shown here as guides of the original build to craft these designs.
I truly feel you are “reaching” as I’m a very fair leader in design work and build at every place I’ve worked for and with a personal project even more so.
From my perspective, the design work has altered significantly, interactions have changed, all color schemes different, the image is just a placeholder and if replaced would easily change the POV of the solution visually. Things have been refined down, styling removed, text altered, layout adjustments.
This said,
How much more needs to be changed in order for “you” to continue to claim any of the treatment IS yours?
Again with a heavy heart ❤️ i ask you in previous iterations where “YOU DID” the work and collaborated you were mentioned. The collaboration went well. But these iterations evolved without your assistance, contribution or help. I spent hours fixing everything and changing it for my own posts.
I am a firm believer in giving credit where it’s due if you do the work. I’ve been screwed on many projects...
if you prefer i can blurb in “1st pass skinned wireframe ui by @itinerantartist “ in both posts if you would like that to help.
But seriously your posts, direction and comments have done MORE harm then useful and very disappointing to see you’ve taken more credit than you deserve. Certainly not something i would think from your education or status. I will edit in the blurb on your behalf, as that is all you have done on 3 posts to assist.
Sorry you’re upset, it was t my intention to do so, i honestly just didn’t think you contributed as I’ve changed the design , interactions, and build and you didn’t work on it this round.
Yes, please "drop in" another image I didn't hand select, or the other styling I curated. If you were being true to the work that was done by my hand, you would start a new file. I am educated, yet very naive, and I believe when you see those files side by side it is clear the work I have done is the foundation for the visual. I never asked to "own" the project. I knew it was person to you. But if you were trying to hire a freelancer to skin UX as you say, then maybe that is paid position that SugarSteem for hire for. You asked for collaborators, and that we "share" in the project. Now you seem to be diminishing my contributions where before you applauded them and talked as if we were equals. I was never paid as a freelancer on this project. I was a voluntary contributor and co-Steemian.
From my perspective, the design work has altered yes, but still is based on the framework I made. I don't see why you were so adamant on refusing to state that.
I added the blurb for the contribution. And you were paid in Steem for the post. The fonts and styling are all different. In future iterations I’ll change the lifestyle image. The layout i created in the wires are identical. I’ve complied with your request.
wow. this is heartbreaking. and i can't believe as a designer you would say this. visual design is just as much a part of the design process as UX. no sugar steem is not my baby. but 100% of the visual design work I've done. from picking font types to curating the imagery, color schemes, formatting. how can you say that i "didn't evolve the design"?
a simple "visual design by @itinerantartist" would have sufficed. now you are saying i didn't evolve the design - after more than a month of working together this literally breaks my heart.
Sorry i don’t want to cause any issues. Never had the intention. I make posts based on the iterative design and who does the work. I’m sorry your feelings were hurt. That’s not the intention. If you had done the work I’d have added you. Always happy to collab again.
:(
seeing these comments is kind of soul crushing to be honest
How so? You didn’t design anything of SugarSteem. I think you’re trying to take credit for something you didn’t create. If you look at the build of my history of wireframes the evolution to a visual treatment is very much the same. Not quite too sure how much you feel you’ve evolved the design.
Are you denying that @itinerantartist created the original visual designs? Even if you have altered them, were those original visual designs created by @itinerantartist or not?
My personal standard is to give credit where credit is due. If the base visuals being worked on was created by another, it is not cool to refuse to give credit. That you are doing so with another Steemian, worse.
yes, the visual design prior to these recent two posts was 100% mine. here is a screenshot i took today of my file, which has 14 different page iterations of custom designs i made. I'm gutted. On vacation in France and literally broke down and cried over this last night. It is profiting off the back of work I did. It is wrong. And if this is what Steemit supports, I suppose I don't belong here at all.
Source file name: Screen Shot 2018-04-29 at 10.50.38 PM.png, for timestamping purposes.
Seriously? You’re trying to claim IP, design aesthetic or UI? I don’t agree here. It’s been my work from the beginning that you as a freelancer have skinned the UI.
None of the high fidelity wireframes are shown here as guides of the original build to craft these designs.
I truly feel you are “reaching” as I’m a very fair leader in design work and build at every place I’ve worked for and with a personal project even more so.
From my perspective, the design work has altered significantly, interactions have changed, all color schemes different, the image is just a placeholder and if replaced would easily change the POV of the solution visually. Things have been refined down, styling removed, text altered, layout adjustments.
This said,
How much more needs to be changed in order for “you” to continue to claim any of the treatment IS yours?
Again with a heavy heart ❤️ i ask you in previous iterations where “YOU DID” the work and collaborated you were mentioned. The collaboration went well. But these iterations evolved without your assistance, contribution or help. I spent hours fixing everything and changing it for my own posts.
I am a firm believer in giving credit where it’s due if you do the work. I’ve been screwed on many projects...
if you prefer i can blurb in “1st pass skinned wireframe ui by @itinerantartist “ in both posts if you would like that to help.
But seriously your posts, direction and comments have done MORE harm then useful and very disappointing to see you’ve taken more credit than you deserve. Certainly not something i would think from your education or status. I will edit in the blurb on your behalf, as that is all you have done on 3 posts to assist.
Sorry you’re upset, it was t my intention to do so, i honestly just didn’t think you contributed as I’ve changed the design , interactions, and build and you didn’t work on it this round.
Yes, please "drop in" another image I didn't hand select, or the other styling I curated. If you were being true to the work that was done by my hand, you would start a new file. I am educated, yet very naive, and I believe when you see those files side by side it is clear the work I have done is the foundation for the visual. I never asked to "own" the project. I knew it was person to you. But if you were trying to hire a freelancer to skin UX as you say, then maybe that is paid position that SugarSteem for hire for. You asked for collaborators, and that we "share" in the project. Now you seem to be diminishing my contributions where before you applauded them and talked as if we were equals. I was never paid as a freelancer on this project. I was a voluntary contributor and co-Steemian.
From my perspective, the design work has altered yes, but still is based on the framework I made. I don't see why you were so adamant on refusing to state that.
I added the blurb for the contribution. And you were paid in Steem for the post. The fonts and styling are all different. In future iterations I’ll change the lifestyle image. The layout i created in the wires are identical. I’ve complied with your request.
wow. this is heartbreaking. and i can't believe as a designer you would say this. visual design is just as much a part of the design process as UX. no sugar steem is not my baby. but 100% of the visual design work I've done. from picking font types to curating the imagery, color schemes, formatting. how can you say that i "didn't evolve the design"?
a simple "visual design by @itinerantartist" would have sufficed. now you are saying i didn't evolve the design - after more than a month of working together this literally breaks my heart.
Sorry i don’t want to cause any issues. Never had the intention. I make posts based on the iterative design and who does the work. I’m sorry your feelings were hurt. That’s not the intention. If you had done the work I’d have added you. Always happy to collab again.