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RE: Introducing Steepshot for the Web. Login to Steepshot and enjoy amazing photos!

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

Threat to blogging yes, because it is a niche.
It has always existed as that. Unlike online social identity.
So reward for the effort of blogging makes sense and will remain.

Destabilizing the big social players however will never happen.
Rewarding mediocrity has no value. Big business is a cherry picker.
They find value and attach to it. Thus reward an influential identity.

Giving reward to all creates a sea of uselessness. A clusterfuck.
More effort to then weed out the bad and discover the good.
Because of that, the system actually hinders it's own growth.

Example: indahash. Who coincidentally are trying to launch an ico.
They amassed a large user-base, with little ability to reward them.
Simply because most that join bring no value to begin with.

Coincidentally again, the very problem which plagues steemit.
They promise a better model, and it is. However they promise it to all.
Then when here.. reward only really comes to some. The rest fall.
So rather than invite all. Steemit should be cherry picking also.
Thus growing an ecosystem of true quality that would then entice more.

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You have a valid point on your last thought. You think screening at the entry level would be a helpful idea in making the community meaningful?

No. Screening is not what I suggested.
Targeted enrollment is more accurate.
Still leaving it free for all to join.
Essentially the model of sports brands.
They connect with athletes they see value in.
Thus acquire the exact audience for their product.

It's not like it isn't already happening.
There's quite a few identities here which are "athletes".
Some are not relatable though.
They will find success anywhere.

It needs more everyday types with unique perspective.
Which would then drive the influx of those who say..
"Hey I can do that, here.. give me a go"

The pitch of "you can make money, come join"
Sort of sells a lie that there is nothing to it.
However, as you can see... the beggars of "vote for vote"
Have flooded the system. That is not a good aspect.

There is quality here, of course. I thought I would add this.
In case my message is received with negative tone.
Discovery of quality is obviously on the user..
But then again, that's not really a great system.

I agree with you to a point. I do see many accounts that post spam on this platform. I compare Steemit to Reddit, and you can see similarities between post on both platforms. I see Steemit becoming more and more flooded with "vote for vote" users. My point though is, as long as the true Steemers continue to post quality, we will be alright. Stay blessed my friend

@goddaily

Yeah I agree with you also.
This is why steemit needs to upgrade.
Take from others and implement it here.

  • Recommendations
  • Feed prerequisites (tag based)
  • Rising stars, Most follow-able
  • Controversial zone (like the nsfw tag)
  • Elite zone (for professionals and intellectuals)

All these would aid users with the discovery process.
Thus growing the quality aspect much faster.
Can't do much about the parasites.
Opportunists are switched on!

Rewarding mediocrity has no value.

Following up on this aspect, I can't see how 1 picture can earn almost a $100 while I do for instance research which takes me at least a few days, or transcriptions / summaries of important events like EOS talks which also take a day or two to get all the links, videos, transcriptions, quotes etc. I mean how can 1 photo generate that amount of money?

Well the only real reason is that steemit and steepshot all still follow the same model of other sites.
A popularity contest where once you gather enough leeches (which are attaching on to you for your status) then you can post anything and simply play the numbers game.
There is little here that rewards unique and thoughtful content without first the precondition of a large pool of followers. I'm not against that. Obviously that is how community functions and grows but other means of discovering content should be in place.

There should also be algorithms which automatically reward content with depth and clear effort such as what you suggested. If they have bots which are scanning for plagiarism then that same bot could acknowledge the scale of the unique content a post provides. The OriginalContent bot itself could be handling that system. As it is, you have to make sure to call upon it for a vote. A vote with a dismal reward.

The core of this network, even by the words of the founders, is that the unique content is everything. Yet when you look into how things work. That is not at all true. Popularity is everything. More accurately, who you know. Or who you suck up to. That's not a future model. It's also not a sustainable model.

I've been keeping up with the steemfest event and don't see any changes in the horizon that would change this. From unique users there is suggested implementations. From the central team however. They are ready to expand with SMTs without even truly perfecting this network here. This should be the cherry. Make this place a true beacon of hope for the masses and the rest will follow.

The core of this network, even by the words of the founders, is that the unique content is everything. Yet when you look into how things work. That is not at all true. Popularity is everything.

Well said. I see it in the comments I get. I don't think Proof-of-Brain works on a fundamental level. If you were to follow 'an expert' how do you know this is an actual expert talking? You don't

You'd actuall need some analytics and better yet, machine learning tools to check who is right most of the time. And I'm affraid that een these tools would need an expert to even use them. Either this is a though nut to crack or just maybe I'm missing something.

So either this:

If they have bots which are scanning for plagiarism then that same bot could acknowledge the scale of the unique content a post provides.

Or what would be easier: an editor in the blockchain which would measure how long you'd be writing a post but this too could be gamed by a bot I think. It would be just much harder to do. And it wouldn't stop people who have little to say but are writing many words without much meaning.

So again, how do you extract meaning from text?

Or you find people by hand and follow them but the point is I'm already following many of them. Maybe their post was a one-off and I just happened to read it. Maybe you should gradually loose people who you are following if you don't read/upvote their posts? Or have a summary service which summarizes your best followers?

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