A reply to @baah

been a bit right?

Ok I don't really know any other way to get into this but to just start. @baah made a post basically pandering to the majority about how there is no censorship on steemit and any one saying otherwise is playing victim, crying and acting entitled and on and on with the stupid misused keywords the pro-censorship group seem to use so much. the way it is written if one was to skim over it they might think its calling steemit a scam and stuff.

here is the post
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored

If you know me you know why im posting how I have been lately, Im have been trying to repair my rep but this chain of replys was so warped and yet sounded so good they way it was laid out I had to do this. I hope this doesn't get me flagged more, guess we will find out.

First im going to go over the chain of comments back and forth, honestly only reason im doing this. I upvoted his post left my comment and thought I was done. Didn't expect 3 triggered responses from it. If this post doesnt get me flagged I will make a reply to his whole post cause I don't think I would be able to fit everything in on one post. I strongly feel his post is bullshit but that's just my personal opinion and I should be able to have it. he thinks my stuff is shit and that's fine too. its when others feel entitled to choose what I can see because they say its shit I get pissed off. I should be able to choose what I like not anyone else.

Yeah so little rant im sure he will focus on, this is all still build up to the actual response so people understand the full context.

Now I have been following baah cause someone told e he is logical and rational and acualy uses logic and reason when arguiging. I have only honestly looked at like 5-6 of his posts and when I seen them I usually upvoted. The reply I originally sent on this post was serious as I thought the way it was written was going to get him flags.

here is the original comment I made.
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@skeptic/re-baah-uncensored-20170709t183654089z

I hope you don't end up with a rep like mine.
:(
Replys don't show up in feeds, posts don't show up in followes feeds or the new feed and people cant even resteem them to make them visable unless they have been upvoted out of transparency and lets not even get into how removing all revenue from someone is a form of censorship.

From this simple comment I got 3 triggered replies. Now all 3 were dodging of the actual points or a warping of reality to fit his narrative.

here they are

First one
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@baah/re-skeptic-re-baah-uncensored-20170709t183748016z

Now first off revenue is income.

t o to say income from steemit is not revenue because "reasons" is just retarded. I don't care if you say the money comes from the shit of flying monkeys it is still considered income and there for revenue. His comment about hope doesn't keep people from getting censored with a negative rep by way of flag for any reason I think was suposta be a witty come back to me actually hoping he doesn't get flagged. idk but on to the 2nd out of 3 on that simple comment I made.

second comment is here
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@baah/re-skeptic-re-baah-uncensored-20170709t184038743z

ok so this is because I said even if people resteem your post the resteemers followers wont even see it unlees it has been upvoted out of invisibility. so I guess his first line is agreeing with me, then he goes into warping reality mode overflown with addhomn and personal opinions.

I guess its easier for me to make this my first response sence I didn't reply to his first 2 comments.

No you cannot resteem posts out of curation

cause of negative rep just like I said.

it's been curated as crap, probably because it's crap, and will stay crap.

that is your opinion and that's fine. also cant even say why its crap? just gona leave it at some vague shit like that? soi because one person says its crap evertyone must agree? what if others think its great? that don't matter though cause one whale said its crap right? fucking swear!

Nobody has to put up with your shit

I agree use the fuqin mute button, that's what it is there for.

and those consequences are your own making

Yes I voiced an opinon that a couple flaggots didn't lke so instead of them using the mute button they flagged my account into negative as to "protect others" and cause they claimed they were "doing good for the community" if u want citation let me know I got screen shots of it all. Just because it is a consequence does not justifiy the people in the wrong censoring others when they could use the mute button if t offends them that much. also the person that made me go from a rep of 2 down to -7.8 cant even give a reason why or say what it is a consequence for. just that im a "piece of shit" and when I as what made me a "piece of shit" they cant give an answer. so yeah the old stuff I delt with that has nothing to do with if there is or isn't censorship on steemit has nothing to do with my negative rep now. get ur timeline correct.

all the blame and responsibility for the place you are at is on your own shoulders

yet no one can give a single reason why not even the person doing it. I cant take responsibility for others actions so sayin
its my fualght some flaggot couldn't use the mute button they have and instead decied to try to censor something to protect others from getting offended is retarded. Do you realize your trying to victim blame? you are trying to pass the blame onto the person getting censored as if they have any control what others do. oh no someone didn't like that opinion? fuck them. use the fucking mute or harden the fuck up already.

If you want we can argue this till we're both blue in the face.

no I don't but your long ass fucking rant give me no choice but reply and defend myself. all the while you have done nothing but dodge the points that people with negative reps from flagging are censored. their comments don't show up, posts don't show up in new feed r followers feeds nothing. but yeah lets look at the 3rd comment you left and then the reply I made to it.

sorry we still working on build up to the actual reply.
again im sure he will focus on all the stuff that has nothing to do with the original points I made.

people with negative reps from flagging are censored. their comments don't show up, posts don't show up in new feed r followers feeds nothing.

ok so his 3rd reply to my simple comment is here
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@baah/re-skeptic-re-baah-uncensored-20170709t184807001z

IM so sick of people saying the people getting flagged are playing victim and they are acting entitled to pay outs ect. do people not understand these words? playing victim means your not the victim in the situation. so how is the person getting flagged no the victim? cause they said something someone didn't lie? oh no that poor persons fee fees! fucking swear.

so this was my reply to all 3 of is comments.
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@skeptic/re-baah-re-skeptic-re-baah-uncensored-20170709t192336886z
here is a transcript as its to long to take a single screen shot of it.

HAHA
ok im not crying or playing victim or claiming entitlement to anything.
the "carottn gay porn" was something I did to the people flagging me so trying to say I was censored for something that I did after I was censored is pathetic
I don't give a fuck about it all im just pointing out facts.
you are the one with 3 responces to a single comment and all the while dodging the points that people with negative reps don't have posts show up in feeds and repys don't show up ect.
also how can you claim that income from steemit is not aform of ravanue?

Get a little defencive on this one?
Why are you acting like another one of the flaggot sjw's all of a sudden?

Im not crying or playing victim. was actually serious about hope u don't get a negative rep as talking about stuff like this is what akes them target u but whatever. you go all emo and say I was saying it like im playing victim?

WOW yo idk what to say.
go ahead and rant more idgaf.
the facts are it only takes one whale to kill your account and there is nothing that can be done about it as whales cant be held accountable for their actions.

entitlement? LOL
I have never claimed entitlement to anything and I would love to see you provide proof of it.

You grow the fuck up.

you are using all the key words the one whale that just went negative used constantly. you sound just like him.

interesting.

cheers and good luck with dodging points and trying to change the story.

My faulght one person killed all my accounts and they couldn't even say why they were doing it besides calling me a "piece of shit" but cant say why im a piece of shit.

This is like arguiging with someone that says shadow banning on twitter isn't censorship. -smfh-

ok so I sent that and holy shit. LOL
I got back a line for line reply to that but the whole thing is still trying to change the subject, dodging all the points and trying to draw attention to new things that have nothing to do with the original points. Now when I seen the reply and skimmed over it all I could do is shake my head andwonder what the fuck happened to this person. so now that the build up is almost done I would like to present the last reply I got from @baah and then will reply to it in full. it is going to be so hard to transcript his reply with out saying something ut I will wait till the end to break it all down and make my reply. also warning. his reply is long. so you know now incase you get annoyed at how hard he tried to be logical and how hard of a fail this is on his part.

Iam making this line at the beginning and the end of his post so you know this is all his saying and im not commenting yet.

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here is his reply.
https://steemit.com/steem/@baah/uncensored#@baah/re-skeptic-re-baah-re-skeptic-re-baah-uncensored-20170709t201315065z

ok im not crying or playing victim or claiming entitlement to anything.

O really?

I hope you don't end up with a rep like mine.
:(
the "carottn gay porn" was something I did to the people flagging me so trying to say I was censored for something that I did after I was censored is pathetic

I said you were flagged for that, among other things, you were flagged, not censored, nobody suppressed you from spamming gay porn, in fact this comment exemplifies that you weren't censored, as you kept posting even after being flagged, or censored as you call it. Justifying spamming gay porn is pathetic indeed.

I don't give a fuck about it all im just pointing out facts.

Except when you're crying, lying and whining.

also how can you claim that income from steemit is not aform of ravanue?

Like this: Rewards from a Reward pool is not Revenue.

Get a little defencive on this one?
Why are you acting like another one of the flaggot sjw's all of a sudden?

Loaded question, pigeonholing.

Im not crying or playing victim. was actually serious about hope u don't get a negative rep as talking about stuff like this is what akes them target u but whatever. you go all emo and say I was saying it like im playing victim?

Yeah, as if you got into your situation because of things not in your control.

That's why you're a victim, because someone forced you up into spamming gay porn.

the facts are it only takes one whale to kill your account and there is nothing that can be done about it as whales cant be held accountable for their actions.

I've been in plenty of flag wars, all it takes is for you to be an asshole, and threaten, talk shit and post gay porn to be in your situation, and not once did you man up or admit or take any responsibility but instead blamed and continue to blame others for curating your crap as crap.

entitlement? LOL
I have never claimed entitlement to anything and I would love to see you provide proof of it.
and lets not even get into how removing all revenue from someone is a form of censorship.

That arguing that the rewards were yours, they were your revenue and were suppressed from you, when in fact the rewards weren't yours, the rewards were still getting voted on therefore they weren't yours, but you think they were, that's why it's entitlement.

You grow the fuck up.

I'll consider your advice when you consider mine.

you are using all the key words the one whale that just went negative used constantly. you sound just like him.

This is a form of self censorship, who is this "him" who's name shall not be uttered?
I won't censor myself to appease you or so you don't perceive me as similar to other people.

cheers and good luck with dodging points and trying to change the story.

Bullshit.

My faulght one person killed all my accounts and they couldn't even say why they were doing it besides calling me a "piece of shit" but cant say why im a piece of shit.

You're frothing at the mouth now, i'm sure that's all relevant to you being censored, because flagging is censorship, and killing all your accounts is systemic censorship, just like twiter.

This is like arguiging with someone that says shadow banning on twitter isn't censorship. -smfh-

Yeah, noted.

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so that was up to the point in time where I started writing this, while grabbing links to replys I see my reply box if sfull of new shit but I will have to check it out after I finins this, reply to his oriinal post, them make my weed review. then maybe later after all that ill get to his new rants. fucking swear I get 3 replys per comment from this dude. cant u put them al in one reply? lol

ok so with the fact that he is using quotes and stuff this might get messy. ill try my best to keep it all simple and easy to understand. im going to have to post what he is quoting me saying and then I have to quote his reply and then ANSWER IT. LOL
OK HERE WE GO AFTER THIS LINE.

oops caps lock. sry bout that. :D
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Yes really, do you think if you keep saying its crying that it will become crying because it wont. pointing out facts and how you are telling lies is not "crying" or "playing victim". im sure you wish it was but its not. its actually funny as fuck to me that the pro-censorship people play that card. point out how someone is full of shit and in the wrong, oh that's crying and playing victim. your ploy to shut down the conversation is a fail imo. Keep the patheticness up with the attempts to shut down conversation by using key words in a derogatory manner. let me guess next u gona call me a homophobe too?
lol

Funny how u take 2 quotes from 2 different comments and throw them together as if they are one. qute mine much? lol
ok so you said

I said you were flagged for that

no you said that's why I have a negative rep.

among other things, you were flagged, not censored

well if a flag makes your stuff invisible then yeah its censorship. and yes I have received flags for many things, offencive words, warning of 10 lines wasent in red and not big enough, pay out was to high, not the type of stuff wanted on the trending page ect ect on and on. it is still censorship no matter what u call it. removing revenue is censorship, making stuff not visable to the public (for any reason) is censorship. a rose by any other name and shit.

nobody suppressed you from spamming gay porn

bullshit they censored them all and I would like to add that you are warping reality with how u are saying that. it was censored cartoon gay porn. There was nothing wrong with it and it shouldn't have been flagged. look its all censored!

see fully censored nothing to get offended about and if it does offend u there is a mute button. but in the name of protecting others that aren't taking offence people flagg it and try to give that as a reason for censorship all the while trying to say there is no censorship. pick one, there is no censorship or there is and then we can argue about your pathetic "reasons".

in fact this comment exemplifies that you weren't censored, as you kept posting even after being flagged, or censored as you call it.

cause I have enough steempower to upvote my own comment to make it visable. doesn't change that people in a negative rep who posts comments or posts wont have their posts and comments show up in feeds. followers feeds, reply feeds, and new post feed. all u do is try to dodge and warp the points.

Justifying spamming gay porn is pathetic indeed.

I was not spamming, I only put it in posts of people flagging me and it was not gay porn god damnit. it was censored cartoon gay comics. Stop trying to act like it was actual porn I was posting. fucking swear you pro-censorship people have no shame when it comes to warping the facts to fit your narrative.
-smfh-

nope not crying, you really pushing hard with trying to say things are stuff they are not. with that said citation needed. pleae provide evidence to back up your claims of lies. we both know u cant provide any so yeah keep up with calling everything crying that points out how your wrong. hows that been working out for u? lol

Yeah as I said earlier in the post im making income is revenue and it does not matter where the money is coming from. if it is a form of incomit is revenue, it does not matter how much u try to twist words and their meanins. income is revenue any your attempt at warping reality is sad and patheitic at best.

it was rhetorical not a fallacy. for fucks sakes u are just grasping at straws. -smfh-

no I cant control others actions. they have a mute button but they choose to try to censor stuff with th flagg. how could I have any control over others actions? -smfh-
I did not spam gay porn, this is you trying to warp reality again. I posted memes of CENSORED gay comics in the comments of the peoples posts that were flagging me into a negative rep. again that was what I did after they censored me. pathetic that you try to bring up stuff I did after I was censored as reasoning on why I was censored. let alone the fact your trying to argue that steemit is anti-censorship bt at the same time trying to give reasons for my censorship. WTF yo? IMa have to tell lifeworship about this and ask him how this can be considered logical and based on reason cause wow. blown away by this display of ignorance.

the only thing you have been flagged on is when you talk about flagging. that is not a flagging war. you have not delt with a whale bot flagging anything you do for a couple months on end. You really think the whole amount of flags you have received combined even come into the relm of flag fight let alone a flag war? im sorry but 3 flags is not a war.
you say

all it takes is for you to be an asshole

personal opnion

and threaten

saying I will defend myself is not threatinging people. fucking retarded, where is the logic and reason I was told about?

talk shit

aka saying something others don't like. I would a citation on this"talking shit" and an actual definition on what "talking shit" is according t you. cause saying god is fake to religious people is talking shit. saying meat is good to veggies is talking shit. another vague term that can be used for anything. pathetic.

and post gay porn to be in your situation

again it was notgay porn, it was CENSORED gay comic memes. stop trying to twist reality. -fuck-

and not once did you man up or admit or take any responsibility but instead blamed and continue to blame others for curating your crap as crap.

man up to what? that most people liked my post that triggered he whiole flagging of my account? man up to the fact that no more then 5 people had a problem with it and they could of used the mute? man up to the fact that 90% of my views were upvoters and flowers? man up to the fact that 5 people felt they are entitled to deciede for all of steemit what we can upvote and enjoy? fuck you with your man up crap. there is nothing to man up to. I made posts on it all. they knew I would leave memes in there comments if they tried to kill my account and they went forward with flagging me saying I was threating them. saying you will defend yourself is not a threat. as I have said over and over though this is all after the fact of my account getting censored. trying to justifiy my censorship with things I did after my account was censored is pathetic. almost as much so as the people that claimed I was threatingin them when I said if they didn't stop flagging me I would defend myself.
pushing that flag buton is an action, saying there will be a consequence for that ction is not a threat. and if u wanna get on the threat bullshit game, isn't fagging someone and telling them its for offencive language and if they use offencive words aain they will flag more a threat? but yeah double standards right? they are pro-censorship flggot whales so its ok right? another appeal to authority? fukin swear yo

again funny how u take 2 quotes from 2 different comments and try to cram them into one.
oh shit this is where you try to pull the entitlement card. ok

you say

That arguing that the rewards were yours

oh they aren't? are you feeling entitled to my upvotes? if you don't think I deserve my upvotes then go upvote other stuff and spread out the reward pool. but the entitled people think they are entitled to deciede what does and doesn't get paid out. that's bullshit. the only one claiming entitlement are the people flagging. again more of the flaggots claim others are "crying", "playing victim" and "acting entitled". how the fuck do you all use those words so much but still not understand the meaning of them?fucking swear.
entitled bitchez thinking they should have the right to deciede who does and doesn't get paid out. fucking swear.

they were your revenue and were suppressed from you

aka flagging
now im not saying that if the value dropps cause the upvoters vote on other stuff and it lowers the amount their pay out pays, im saying for others to come in with an entitled attitude that they should be he person that decieded who can keep their upvote is the entiled spoiled brat bullshit. not the people upset that one person came in and flagged everything they did and removed all pay out. fuking swear this is like talking to my 2yr old when she is throwing a fit about how she wants the candy.

still avoiding ALL the points and dodging and trying to warp the facts. -mfh-

when in fact the rewards weren't yours

They arent? so if the one person doesn't flagg they aren't mine? crazy I been spending money that wasent mine all along iguess. whos rewards are they if they aren't the person recieveing the upvotes? do they belong only to people that flag others? do they only belong to people you deem as ok to receive them? who gets to decide who does and doesn't deserve their upvotes? stupid bullshit yo. the rewards belong t the post that is receiving them. not to the person flagging removing pay outs. you are promoting the exploit I pointed out long ago and got flagged for talking about.

the rewards were still getting voted on therefore they weren't yours,

so they are mine till an entitled flaggot comes in a thinks the opinion stated in the post is not deserving of the pay outs it has received? oh that's right you keep claiming that the upvotes don't belong to the post they were received on. I love how u choose to change the flag to a vote when it supports your narrative. sad but funny.

but you think they were, that's why it's entitlement.

unn do you not understand what entitlement is? I am not saying im entitled to anything. im saying the people flagging are not entitled to deciede who does and doesn't get paied out on steemit. fucking swear the amount you twist facts is amazing to me.

so u tell me to grow up and when I say you grow up you say after I take ur advice first? fuck your advice, there is no growing up that would change the facts. maybe your saying I should just believe what u say and not question you then I would be grown up? if so fuck that, you are spouting nothing but bullshit and avoiding all the original points. keep grasping at straws yo. LOL

yes I am self censoring as if I say the name they will go back to flagging me 100%. if I don't say his name then its like 50% he will find out about this post an flagg me. its shitty, I know but I have no other choice if I want to continue posting on steemit without going deeper in the negative rep. but that's what you are defending, my rep gong more negative for disagreeing with you. atleast you can say why you disagee with me where the flaggot cant say why and only flags more.
you wont self censor , that's great your inot in a situation where you have to. you aren't in the position where your account will go deeper in the negative if you say someones name. so brave of you to not self censor when your not in a position where u have to. wow! fucking swear.
we both know the name, you comment to him recenty. trying to get me to say his name so I get flagged more is pathetic at best. I said you are similar because u use all the same keywords and words like him. people say anything about him flagging them and he pulls out the same cards as your pathetic ass plays, says they are crying, playing victim and acting entitled to the upvotes they received.

that is all you have done. lets see, if you have a negative rep your posts dont show up in the new feed or folowers feeds and replys don't show up either.nothing about that just dodging and trying to change the point. your whole post is about how there is no censorship on steemit but all you have done in the comments to me is try to give reasons for my censorship./ pathetic at best.
when presented with forms of censorship you just dodge and play your little games. im ashamed that some one told me you took my place after I started to self censor.

you say

You're frothing at the mouth now

maybe, lies piss me off anyhow, maybe your trying to say im rabie infested or something but it comes down to I hate lies and cant help my self to call them out. even a risk of getting flagged more, so sure im frothing at the mouth to call out bullshit and put pathetic wanna be skeptics in their place.

i'm sure that's all relevant to you being censored

but your argument is that there is no censorship. lol wtf. my censorship comes from flaggot bitchez that don't use the mute button but instead choose to try to censor people to protect others that don't want protection by way of flag.

because flagging is censorship

yep or an attempt at it.

and killing all your accounts is systemic censorship

what else would u call it when one person takes all their bots and alt accounts and dropps an account to negative without reason (and cant give one)trying to use the keyword systamitic is so funny to me, trying for that best sjw keyword award or something? systamictc anything is a joke. atleast your using the word correctly. yes it is built into the system. LOL I alost feel your replys are sarcastic, but I know they aren't . just pathetic.

just like twiter

yes just like the ignorant people that try to say shadow banning isn't censorship. oh im jumping the gun that's the next comment u make. fucking swear I hope ur retarded. if not im sorry for using retard in a duragority way.

yes noted but you cant say anything about it because its true. same thing I dal with on twitter. fools claiming shadowbanning isn't censorship but when you actually dive into censorship they do like u. dodge and avoid then try to twist the actual facts and try to make it about some other thing.

so my original points are still holding and you haven't even attempeted to attack them. it has been all dodging and trying to change the points. let me go oer the original points I made just incase you don't get it.

(if your going to reply this is the part to do it on)

it only takes one whale with enough steempower to kill an account.

when you have been given a negative rep (even if only one person is the cause of it) none of your posts show up in the new feed or your followers feeds.

none of your replys or comments show up in the reply feed.

removal of revenue is a form of censorship.

on and on. I don't knowif u have heard the saying
"your rights end where my rights begin"
but your rights to censor anything ends when it conflicts with my right to freedom of speech. yes you have the righ to use the mute button and I think yopu should but you do not have the right to censor anything so others don't have the right to choose if theywant to mute that post or not.

im shit drunk the first time in 2 months and tbh im not going to check spelling or gramer. this ignorance does not deserve my best. tbh it doesn't deserve my worst either.

Have a great one and hope you stop dodging points and actually start telling the truth.
ima gues that your going to avoid all the original points and try to cha
ge the subject and move the goal posts again. but whatever yo.

if this don't get flagged ill make a reply to your whole post after I make my late weed review.

cheers andhave fun with your pathetic attempts to suck on some whale dck to get some money. lol
no censorship on steemit. LOL
good try but u need to atually come with proof. as I said call citation on anything. I will provide evidence and proof as I always have. but you. lol I cant wait to see you try to pull up some evidence to back your lies or even have a decebnt argument on the original points.

you wont though.

cheers!