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RE: I See The Writing on the Wall, This Will Be Steemit's Downfall

in #steemit7 years ago

You bring up a lot of interesting points. Regarding the 7 day payout I remember when I first got on Steemit I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. Then I found out about the 7 day payout thing and I was like this site fucking sucks lol, I'm all about passive income and seperating my time and effort from my money and this payout system means your always on the hamster wheel you can never stop.

I actually made a post about this very thing and oddly enough to date its my highest earning post of all time and it was nothing more than a question, I found that very funny.

Anyhow, after thinking about it more I can sorta see why this is the case, it forces people to be engaged and stay part of the community as opposed to just using this as a content dump, but at the same time without ongoing payouts there is never goign to be incentive to create longer form content on here.

I think the 7 day payout also keeps people away since most people who are into online marketing and hustlign are all about passive income and Steemit with this rule is not passive.

As far as pay walls go, I get the idea behind it and I suppose more ways to monetize can't hurt, however in the grand scheme of things most people are not willing to open up their wallets and pay a bunch of different creators. I compare it to netflix where we all lose our shit when they raise the price from $7 to $9 even though we are getting a shitload of content, now if Netflix is barely worth $9 with thousands and thousands of movie and show titles how can someone justify paying 9 creators $1 per piece for a couple blog posts. I feel like advertising is the only real way to bring in big money as in Youtube creator type money.

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Well the way a person could orchestrate the paywall is that if a certain amount of people vote for it and the payout reaches a certain threshold then it is unlocked to the whole community. That way it will make those who are able to push it over the top could be thanked......etc. It is a thought but I don't know how it would work.

Also about the passive income part. It honestly is already in play with the curation rewards and all that. When someone reaches whale status they don't really have to do much of anything but put people on autovoters and earn a full time income passively that keeps compounding which is pretty amazing. With the Paid upvote bot situation that has taken over the same can be said for that as well. It all goes back to the unfair distribution though. I hate to keep saying it because I have said it 8000 times but it was so skewed and then in a lot of ways got worse because of the way things were setup initially. People just felt like they were a court jester trying to impress a king which was total bullshit because it was just people who got here 2 weeks before me.

Another thing I thought about as far as valued content. For the most part with Instagram no one is learning much. It is like visual entertainment. Memes, Hot girls doing squats, I watch guys jump snowmobiles, guys dunking ......... And once and awhile I post there just to sort of show off or funnel people back to Youtube or Steemit....... but there are a lot of people constantly posting on there and trying to gain a big following and when I look for product placement or some sort of affiliate links I'm not seeing it on a lot of accounts. And I always think...... is this chick trying to monetize this or is it just to feel good from all the likes?

I think it is a reason the younger crowd (Under 25) isn't as attracted to this platform. Oftentimes I'm seeing people be supported by their parents or whatever just being man babies and so this would be far too frustrating to keep trying to hustle.

Because let's be honest. It gets aggravating being this early to something and trying to hustle all the time to keep squeezing money out of it.....etc.

With EOS I feel good because it is a fair distribution and I feel like I was able to commit what I could to the project so far and that I had my shot. Will there be whales buying millions worth? Yeah but i'm fine with that..... i had my chance to put in what I could. With STEEM that wasn't really the case. And trying to play "catch up" is a very daunting task because the whales were here from the beginning and they are flying forward at light speed. I hate to keep harping on that but that is how I have always felt with it and many other people feel the same way. This is actually the most legit platform / system in the crypto ecosystem and would be at least top 10 if it had a fair distribution from the beginning. But it isn't.....It's down in 29th position. That being said I really want to make this platform work for us and want this to be a solid piece of my portfolio going forward. I could see this potential form day 1 and we keep seeing glimpses of greatness with stuff like DTube. I know it is just around the corner when one day we realized that it arrived. There have been some moments where I'm seeing these large groups from around the world getting together talking about STEEM. Like in india, Philippians, Nigeria, Venezuela......etc. A chick from Venezuela told me in a comment yesterday that finding out about Steemit was like a miracle. I can imagine it would be like that in some countries.

The whole distribution thing while I know were beating a dead horse is an interesting point. I know Jackson Palmer recently has been big on talking about centralization and how if the distribution isn't done right or if too many people hold too much it makes it a centralized currency. I forget the list of the most centralized vs least centralized but off the top of my head I believe Ripple was one of the worst with the top whatever percent of accounts holding about 95% of all ripple where as something like Bitcoin while people claim a small amount of people hold a lot of power is actually one of the more less centralized ones. I think NEO was also very centralized.

I thought your comment at the end was interesting. I hear about and have seen some documentaries about how difficult life is in Venezuela and how messed up some things are, I actually purposely kind of go out of my way to support people I see in Venezuela because I realize my miniscule 100% upvote potentially could actually be pretty meaningful to someone there.

I have seen this comment echoed a few times by various people, basically if I lived in a third world country without all the opportunities available to me Steemit would be pretty attractive, however with so many opportunities available to me its kind of peanuts. I regularly get contacted by people through my Youtube channel who are from Venezuela or really all over the world but many people don't have access to paypal or stripe or can't join various affiliate programs simply because the country the are in or they have to jump through hoops setting up workarounds for a VBA or virttual bank account to be able to accept paypal or payoneer or whatever else so we as Americans definitely are kind of whiny when we talk about how hard it is to make money because in many ways we have way less challenges than people elsewhere.

I agree I think Steemit should be a top 5 crypto if for no other reason than there's actually something here. So many projects aren't even live but have all this hype. Other projects are very robust but not really used I mean Ethereum is great and all but aside from cryptokitties which imho is dumb as hell your average person isn't doing anything with it, like you say most of this stuff is only used by cryptonerds not your average person where as steemit while needs work is very easy to use and normal everyday people are using it

Yeah Ripple is terrible from so many angles. I held my nose and purchased some of that garbage and then peaced out on most of it. You just have to use it and lose it. STEEM has pretty bad distribution when it boils down to it. The STEEMIT account has so much and then there are like 10 or 20 whales that really have a very large percentage of the pie. All the initial STEEM was basically mined for around $5000 worth of electricity. So just imagine someone spending $500 or $1000 and mining an unfair distribution and ending up with accounts worth millions and then being a god king on here and being able to pay themselves and earning more and more. That is why in 2016 a lot of people who got on here just rolled their eyes and peaced out.

Oddly enough some of these Bitcoin forks end up with a really solid distribution because it leverages the distribution of Bitcoin plus the Satoshi coins are unlikely to move much and it is unclear if some of the other big accounts are still able to control their funds and recover the forks in the future as well.

I get what you are saying about some of these countries being rough to really make a go at things. I think our biggest disadvantage here is how everything is pretty expensive. Same with a lot of European countries. So much tax and insurance and so on and so forth so a person has to overcome that.

From everything I have read and seen it almost seems like if you go to some of these places like Thailand, Costa Rica, Mexico, Argentina......etc with our knowledge and some money a person could really live a lot better than you could here because you can be comparatively rich compared to a large portion of the population.

Another thing besides the distribution issue that STEEM suffers from is that it is easy for Investors to be getting "dumped on" by all the people trying to earn extra income off this platform. So it can create an imbalance of people cashing out. But it is an attractive investment in other ways because of the potential to earn. So hopefully that can balance itself out in the end.

I hate to say it but automated upvote bots actually are an enticing thing for investors with bigger pockets. If a person can earn 20% return / year off of it and they see long term potential in the ecosystem as a whole they could take a chance on it for sure.

I can see this clear vision for STEEM where in one platform such as STEEMIT or BUSY a person will be able to do all the live streaming , post videos, post pictures and video from a mobile app. Like everything will be on one platform.

I'm actually surprised someone with deeper pockets hasn't gotten funding to really take everything that is here already and make one new platform that will do it all based on this tech. I know there is going to be Appics which is supposed to be built on a SMT but that isn't out yet and the issues with anything built on a SMT is that it also suffers from the poor distribution of STEEM because a person has to buy STEEM to have power in a SMT application.

Over all we need to do what we can to really create a better more consistent payout and then when these other platforms come online we take the alliance over there as well and move as a crew onto every platform like that.

Yeah, the kinda "problem" with Steemit is unfair distribution. But does it really hurt a lot of people? I would not say that. Still you can earn decent money from the platform, especially if you invested a couple hundred bucks in it. Many people post garbage, but that's why you can raise almost easily.

The unfair distribution hurts the different times when we have been dumped on. Steem went from $4 to $0.07 in 2016. The peaks and valleys have been pretty severe but that all being said There are a lot of things that are happening that are positive here. Like I just livestreamed from my Android device yesterday to DLive. That was pretty cool!

Man, can't imagine what blow it was for people posting on Steemit. Like almost 7x decrease in price. I maybe even would give up if I were there.

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