Have you seen @truthtrader posts? He is tracking haejin portfolio to check How good he is.
Also, your should see what @tradergurl write. Now what she write is some real good Trading advice.
Anyway, there is a lot of issues here on steemit, but i see one of them that looks like the bigger one.
There is an lack of balance in the Power.
As steemit is working right now, whoever have more money, have the control. According to @arcange statistics, there is only 29 whales, and with the amount of sp that these accounts have, they can totally Control what Will be rewarded around here (not 100% but probably pretty close). And this is a big issue on a platform that is sold as a decentralized social media. It isnt. Power is concentrated in Very few hands.
If these 29 whales wanted, they could selfupvote, and flag most of the posts to keep the rewards for themselves.
That create a barrier to people that Join, do a few posts, never get attention, and then leave. We probably Lost a lot of good writers.
Why not make minnows votes be worth more? If steemit thrive, most of the users Will be minnows, and steemit Will have a really bad retention rate, because they wont get much from the platform.
Clearly, there are a lot of challenges with this platform - as you address well. Solutions...? I dunno man. There are a lot of people with a lot of ideas, though as to how to actually filter out and implement the best...? 🤔
You make a very very good point in about this abuse @rok-sivante. I saw examples of this, people posting BS about crypto markets, maybe good maybe bad, but they were constantly receiving high rewards, but didn't know about this user who you refer to. In one respect it could be fair gain, as you explained he's put years into learning the markets, but the point of crypto is to serve the people. If STEEM gets close to $100 each, he'd be making millions, and that's crazy, like really crazy, for posting blogs, atleast footballers actually put quite a bit of effort into their work.
It seems to me that the platform is not being used at it should, and people using it for greed. I spend about 4-5 hours a day writing a science article, after studying my arse off for 6 years to know the Physics I do, I share my knowledge and get little recognition or rewards, I'm thankful for steemstem, the community and also a user called @shaka for the upvotes. Without them it would be pointless to continue. Someone posts a shit meme and gets 60 SBD uvote, it's mad, i'll be lucky to get 20 SBD on a good day for a post.
It's sad because lots of people on here put in a lot of effort, time and "love" into their post, then compete with users writing BS, posting crap, or plagiarising by copy pasting and changing a few words. It does my head in.....
I'll continue to do what I am doing, hopefully build a fan base and see "just" rewards I guess.
Thanks for the post and your opinion. Have a good day and see you around rok! ;)
I completely agree with you. Same situation here. My last post was upvoted by @shaka and 99 upvotes immediately followed. Without the dedication of such valuable users all our good work would be lost to the ether...
Every post looks the same. It's all about hype. He's like a used car salesman. He know's the car is junk but he will do whatever he can to sell you that car. He don't care if anyone reads his blogs. He only wants upvotes. One day I seen him ask people to powerup VP more to give him bigger upvotes. That comes from a person who gives 0 fucks about them.
I really believe 75% of his upvotes are accounts he created. They are all bots upvoting him. Some of those lame ass comments are bots too of his. I leave them comments & they never respond back to me. Without the one Whale voting for him, his post would earn around $5.00 each.
He is only here to make as much money as he can before it's gone. He keeps saying he does this for FREE. HE gives out all this information for FREE. We will see when we keep flagging him to $0.00 each day for weeks at a time. How long really does it for FREE then. He will leave & go back to just being on YouTube & Twitter.
I am still quite new to steemit, and one of the first people whose posts I bumped into when starting was of course the person in question. At first I was quite inspired, seeing that people can make a lot of money with such short posts - I felt like if this person can do it, I can do it too. However, as time passed I started wondering what it is about these posts that is actually that valuable - the posts themselves don't seem to be of great insight. Then the whale wars started and I realized that instead of giving his upvotes to others, he was mostly (only? I am not really sure of this) upvoting himself, creating this snowball effect that seems to be unstoppable once you get to the whale stage.
On one hand I respect anyone who has gotten so far with just bullshitting, and think that if people keep supporting this person, he sort of deserves it. On the other hand, because of the way power is distributed on steemit, this sort of behavior can be really bad for the platform as a whole, and especially to minnows that are just starting, as the rewards and steem power are so unevenly distributed - how can you grow bigger if the whales are only playing their own games while minnows supporting other minnows do not really have much opportunity as their upvotes only weigh so much?
That being said, I am incredibly grateful for this platform, and think that with a little bit of adjusting to the way it works, it could become even better. :)
Thank for the honest post, I like how you don't just look at things from one perspective but understand them from multiple viewpoints.
Thvpoint is the whales own majority of this voting bots.hVe ben to many of them and ehen they tell you what they passed through to become a whale, you will just calm down. Fight for supremancy is expected but shoud be reduced and support should be distributed toghe minnows who cant afford to pay bots
Shalom
same opinion here - Those words could come from my mouth. I started to steem just a couple of weeks ago. Of course it would be great to earn some money from good posts and good content. But in the first instance i appreciate the serious people here and good content whatever blogs or videos, music etc... If you post bullsh*** you shouldn't get credits for that but mabybe this is just my envy xD
Aye, sometimes it seems that disengagement works best for these sorts of situations to solve thmselves, allowing the swarm to come to the conclusion that IT is making those payouts happen and falling for the invitation to war without quite realizing it. And the more the swarm has to divide and take sides the more the egos involved will get nurtured feeling part of some kind of holy crusade.
Speaking of disengagement: The thing I can't quite disengage from is at a whole other level. Raping the reward pool due to the greed of one's followers is one thing... actively censoring politically incorrect or academically unwanted evidence-based contemporary journalism is quite another, and it concerns me deeply. Especially the apparent lack of interest in it by those who could decidedly help to make it public and help force a statement or an official explanation instead of consenting through silence.
Especially when the people involved are at the higher echelons of the Steemit Inc ivory tower, blatanly disregarding any publicly confessed standards this platform supposedly stands for., or addressing the repeated calls to back up their claims and actions with any sort of tangible reasoning.
There the real danger can be found here, it's the best candidate for a case AGAINST steemit at the moment, to me.
Users are users, and that's bad enough as you nailed in your two parts here. But actively circumcizing solid polticial debate while simultaneously holding influential core positions in this ecosystem and the development team is a whole other dimension of "worrysome" to me, and seems way more urgent in light of what I have witnessed than a possibly false prophet and his unaware flock.
I really enjoyed both of your posts today. You have laid out the concerns very well.
My two cents
We focus a lot on individuals but maybe it's the system or aspects of it that needs addressing. Good bad or indifferent when you go to the trending pages you get so much of the same content and authors. I just visited another blogging site just now because I couldn't sleep and it was so easy to browse to find good varied content to read. I had to scroll a long way in steemit to find an interesting crypto post. There are so many from the same author in the list, or other people who are not far off being contenders for that tag you mentioned.
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My comment got too long, creating a post instead O.o
https://steemit.com/steemit/@biasnarrative/response-to-rok-sivante-s-post
Have you seen @truthtrader posts? He is tracking haejin portfolio to check How good he is.
Also, your should see what @tradergurl write. Now what she write is some real good Trading advice.
Anyway, there is a lot of issues here on steemit, but i see one of them that looks like the bigger one.
There is an lack of balance in the Power.
As steemit is working right now, whoever have more money, have the control. According to @arcange statistics, there is only 29 whales, and with the amount of sp that these accounts have, they can totally Control what Will be rewarded around here (not 100% but probably pretty close). And this is a big issue on a platform that is sold as a decentralized social media. It isnt. Power is concentrated in Very few hands.
If these 29 whales wanted, they could selfupvote, and flag most of the posts to keep the rewards for themselves.
That create a barrier to people that Join, do a few posts, never get attention, and then leave. We probably Lost a lot of good writers.
Why not make minnows votes be worth more? If steemit thrive, most of the users Will be minnows, and steemit Will have a really bad retention rate, because they wont get much from the platform.
Clearly, there are a lot of challenges with this platform - as you address well. Solutions...? I dunno man. There are a lot of people with a lot of ideas, though as to how to actually filter out and implement the best...? 🤔
You make a very very good point in about this abuse @rok-sivante. I saw examples of this, people posting BS about crypto markets, maybe good maybe bad, but they were constantly receiving high rewards, but didn't know about this user who you refer to. In one respect it could be fair gain, as you explained he's put years into learning the markets, but the point of crypto is to serve the people. If STEEM gets close to $100 each, he'd be making millions, and that's crazy, like really crazy, for posting blogs, atleast footballers actually put quite a bit of effort into their work.
It seems to me that the platform is not being used at it should, and people using it for greed. I spend about 4-5 hours a day writing a science article, after studying my arse off for 6 years to know the Physics I do, I share my knowledge and get little recognition or rewards, I'm thankful for steemstem, the community and also a user called @shaka for the upvotes. Without them it would be pointless to continue. Someone posts a shit meme and gets 60 SBD uvote, it's mad, i'll be lucky to get 20 SBD on a good day for a post.
It's sad because lots of people on here put in a lot of effort, time and "love" into their post, then compete with users writing BS, posting crap, or plagiarising by copy pasting and changing a few words. It does my head in.....
I'll continue to do what I am doing, hopefully build a fan base and see "just" rewards I guess.
Thanks for the post and your opinion. Have a good day and see you around rok! ;)
I completely agree with you. Same situation here. My last post was upvoted by @shaka and 99 upvotes immediately followed. Without the dedication of such valuable users all our good work would be lost to the ether...
glad you're still here bro
Every post looks the same. It's all about hype. He's like a used car salesman. He know's the car is junk but he will do whatever he can to sell you that car. He don't care if anyone reads his blogs. He only wants upvotes. One day I seen him ask people to powerup VP more to give him bigger upvotes. That comes from a person who gives 0 fucks about them.
I really believe 75% of his upvotes are accounts he created. They are all bots upvoting him. Some of those lame ass comments are bots too of his. I leave them comments & they never respond back to me. Without the one Whale voting for him, his post would earn around $5.00 each.
He is only here to make as much money as he can before it's gone. He keeps saying he does this for FREE. HE gives out all this information for FREE. We will see when we keep flagging him to $0.00 each day for weeks at a time. How long really does it for FREE then. He will leave & go back to just being on YouTube & Twitter.
That pretty much sums it up. :-/
BTW I did each of his post today like that. WITH 6 ACCOUNTS. LMFAO!!! So there are 60 post out there all looking like his bullshit lololololololol.
I am still quite new to steemit, and one of the first people whose posts I bumped into when starting was of course the person in question. At first I was quite inspired, seeing that people can make a lot of money with such short posts - I felt like if this person can do it, I can do it too. However, as time passed I started wondering what it is about these posts that is actually that valuable - the posts themselves don't seem to be of great insight. Then the whale wars started and I realized that instead of giving his upvotes to others, he was mostly (only? I am not really sure of this) upvoting himself, creating this snowball effect that seems to be unstoppable once you get to the whale stage.
On one hand I respect anyone who has gotten so far with just bullshitting, and think that if people keep supporting this person, he sort of deserves it. On the other hand, because of the way power is distributed on steemit, this sort of behavior can be really bad for the platform as a whole, and especially to minnows that are just starting, as the rewards and steem power are so unevenly distributed - how can you grow bigger if the whales are only playing their own games while minnows supporting other minnows do not really have much opportunity as their upvotes only weigh so much?
That being said, I am incredibly grateful for this platform, and think that with a little bit of adjusting to the way it works, it could become even better. :)
Thank for the honest post, I like how you don't just look at things from one perspective but understand them from multiple viewpoints.
🙏💗
Well said! Following you!
Thvpoint is the whales own majority of this voting bots.hVe ben to many of them and ehen they tell you what they passed through to become a whale, you will just calm down. Fight for supremancy is expected but shoud be reduced and support should be distributed toghe minnows who cant afford to pay bots
Shalom
same opinion here - Those words could come from my mouth. I started to steem just a couple of weeks ago. Of course it would be great to earn some money from good posts and good content. But in the first instance i appreciate the serious people here and good content whatever blogs or videos, music etc... If you post bullsh*** you shouldn't get credits for that but mabybe this is just my envy xD
Aye, sometimes it seems that disengagement works best for these sorts of situations to solve thmselves, allowing the swarm to come to the conclusion that IT is making those payouts happen and falling for the invitation to war without quite realizing it. And the more the swarm has to divide and take sides the more the egos involved will get nurtured feeling part of some kind of holy crusade.
Speaking of disengagement: The thing I can't quite disengage from is at a whole other level. Raping the reward pool due to the greed of one's followers is one thing... actively censoring politically incorrect or academically unwanted evidence-based contemporary journalism is quite another, and it concerns me deeply. Especially the apparent lack of interest in it by those who could decidedly help to make it public and help force a statement or an official explanation instead of consenting through silence.
Especially when the people involved are at the higher echelons of the Steemit Inc ivory tower, blatanly disregarding any publicly confessed standards this platform supposedly stands for., or addressing the repeated calls to back up their claims and actions with any sort of tangible reasoning.
There the real danger can be found here, it's the best candidate for a case AGAINST steemit at the moment, to me.
Users are users, and that's bad enough as you nailed in your two parts here. But actively circumcizing solid polticial debate while simultaneously holding influential core positions in this ecosystem and the development team is a whole other dimension of "worrysome" to me, and seems way more urgent in light of what I have witnessed than a possibly false prophet and his unaware flock.
Many challenges with this platform, in spite of how many people think “decentralization” is the holy grail...
I really enjoyed both of your posts today. You have laid out the concerns very well.
My two cents
We focus a lot on individuals but maybe it's the system or aspects of it that needs addressing. Good bad or indifferent when you go to the trending pages you get so much of the same content and authors. I just visited another blogging site just now because I couldn't sleep and it was so easy to browse to find good varied content to read. I had to scroll a long way in steemit to find an interesting crypto post. There are so many from the same author in the list, or other people who are not far off being contenders for that tag you mentioned.
Thanks again for the great post.
Lol. Amen man of God
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