NUMBER ONE change that STEEMIT needs to stay relevant in the long run!
I have been seeing a rather odd behavior on Steemit and I am only 1 month old on this platform.
I see a lot of posts appear in the 'new' section and some of them are well researched and well written. For a super-fast reader if an article was to take 5-10 minute reading time, I see comments/upvotes in first minute or sometimes in seconds, and I would see people commenting without completely reading or comprehending the articles.
This is frustrating for people who are investing a lot of time in researching, reviewing material, revising and posting on Steemit expecting appreciation for the work FIRST and if money follows, that is welcome as well.
I have seen that if someone has been on this platform for a while now - it doesn't matter what shite they post - people automatically upvote/follow and kiss ass!
I have seen some genuine articles with great information and true emotion only to see them get lost in the abyss!
We need to start implementing a 'browse block' that times the time individual spends reading/watching it! System should automatically assign a minimum time (based on number of words or some algorithm). This will ensure that people are reading or at least attempting to read.
There are many ways to circumvent this, I KNOW, but if we de-incentivise people from scouring through articles only to 'comment' without reading, it would help encourage more and more quality posts on to Steemit!
Isn't Steemit's motto: your voice means something?
If we don't incentivize people to 'hear' the voice then don't we encourage 'ambulance chaser' behavior in the long run? Shouldn't we engage people so that those contributing feel engaged as well?
Anyone else feel this pain?
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I do like your idea. There are sites that list average read time of articles and I don't see why this could not be implemented into Steemit. There would need to be an algorithm designed to figure out a fast readers time in comparison to the average to account for them.
Then you would have those that would somehow figure out how to manipulate the system by decreasing their read time in some artificial way. Maybe a minimum time to have the article open would need to be depending on the average read time per article.
It would be interesting to see bots having to open an article for a minimum amount of time to be able to automatically upvote it.
The other day I saw a post of a prominent Steemian that continuously makes the trending page because of bot upvotes. The article was worth a few hundred bucks. It was literally 10 words and a link to another article. That's manipulation of the system to the nth degree.
That specific example garnered this reaction from me...
I love that movie, Network.
Generally those that want a FAIR chance at things are left to feel that exact way!! Thank you for your elaborate comment and sharing your thoughts!
Please resteem so this can reach the 'right ears'...
You are welcome and I have been mulling over this post as a resteem.
Total Noob here... but the whole idea of botvotes seems antithesis to the purpose of this platform, doesn't it? I'm a little, (very little) surprised to see how prevalent and accepted, even embraced, it is.
But mostly, I just want to be left alone with my TV and my toaster and my steel-belted radial tires....
I respect that...but this is for people who want to thrive on this platform using their content!
Hey! Yes...it is antithetical...
Left alone? I think because dolphins and whales are making a fair amount of STEEM off of them.
Anyway, welcome! I'm a fellow #THL member!
✌ Peace!!!
The left alone bit is a quote from the aforementioned film... I highly recommend it to anyone who has not seen it. Technological advances aside, you'd never believe that it wasn't made yesterday, rather than in the mid 70's.... it's that frighteningly on-point.
All that aside... looking forward to seeing you on #THL! , and peace to you!
There seem to be many people who see the problems and have some solutions. I have written on this myself - sadly one post has just gone past the 7 days but comments are still welcomed. I have also written about how someone has to look at the whole package of rules - this is a game, in game-theoretic terms, and the rules of the game will affect behaviour. But I haven't found many who can think through it in such mathematical terms. Many just feel that good content should be rewarded. I agree, but how much great content is there in the outside world?
I have just done some analysis of data and the amount of self-voting abuse is staggering - and not just at the top - the virus is spreading. Hopefully, we may be able to get enough people to make actionable suggestions to the way the algorithms operate. It is possible - we all vote for the witnesses.
While I agree with your comment about 'great content' being out there, we come to Steemit for a reason, that is "come for the money, stay for the engagement" (borrowing it from some ad of Steemit I guess).
If we were to compete on the grounds of 'content' we will have HARD time competing with Quora. That is a fact.
However, that should not stop us from trying to implement measures that will encourage Steemians to be engaged themselves and bring on more and more quality contributors knowing that quality before anything will be of primary importance.
It is a game, I agree, the one that is skewed in favor of those who arrived here early. A great parlance here would be America before Trump and after Trump. America is great not because it closed its doors, its exactly the opposite - it opened its doors for TALENT no matter where it came from and that made it great. Now those who arrived here (200 years early) feel like they OWN the fkng country and want to close he doors. Good for Canada - because they will open the doors to talent and America will lose.
Same goes true for Steemit. If we don't find ways to invite talent and keep talent, we will be left for other upcoming projects. And Steemit will be abandoned for NSFW spam!
Please understand that this is not a rant, this is my attempt to keep this platform great 2 or 5 or 10 years down the lane, not just now and reiterating that we have to implement small changes in the short run that will have long term impact on future of Steemit!
I have to agree with you, @rkreddy. I have been on Steemit for 5 days. I've found some truly amazing content in my feed (yes, I actually read my follower's content) that gets no attention at all. Then, I see pictures of girls in swimsuits showing me what they ate for lunch with tons of upvotes. What is actually going on, here? I thought Steemit was about original content, community building, and the desire to create a place to share ideas.
Exactly what I have intended to talk about. Worse thing is that NSFW - I am all up for ORIGINAL contnent - some of that is picture capture of porno and making bucks for the publishers while the quality content gets ignored. Without anti-plagiarism rules and some kind of attention guaging - it WONT BE LONG BEFORE STEEMIT BECOMES ANOTHER REDDITT!
Great point!
That's why we have @curie where you can porpose to curate undervalued posts and get rewarded if they are approved and upvoted by curie team :)
did not know about @curie
thanks for sharing
Excellent suggestion. This is a drawback of some who wants to gain followers by initializing engagement thru the comments. The only problem is its not really engaging if you did not read what the article is all about in the first place.
Precisely, well summarised. Plz consider resteeming so that the suggestion makes it to right people!
Resteemed. :)
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What another great idea to prevent the loss of knowledge :)
Accept, whole heartedly...I want the message to go up and above!
We as a 'users' should have a down vote feature to flag such posts and discourage such user's attempt to monetize.
There is flag/downvote, however that results in ganging up/retaliation behavior!!
Being "another reddit" in size would be great, but, yes, I want SteemIt to get there with quality posts and quality commenters...
I wonder if flagging should be cloaked in anonymity and then the flag would be reviewed by the largest of SteemIt whales... that way petty retaliations will be extremely unlikely.
BTW, are you on Discord chat? I was going to leave an alt coin question here, but I don't want to be too off topic :D
I am on discord...rkreddy! logging in now!
Consider resteeming mate, not for views but for the message to reach up!
Are you #0365 or #1152? There are two rkreddy's out there XD
Hopefully I can catch up with you today or tomorrow - I'm kind of 'hit or miss' today.
I re-steemed!
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i think the reading delay is a good idea, even with a requestor on the screen to ask politely, and post a random message similar to yours, in different languages, i think it would have some value for sure. but then you might open up a whole can of worms when you do it as people will just build ways around it. i guess we need a culture change. education, education, education. i try my best to treat steemit like a blog, not an instant messager or micro/nano posting platform. i'm not totally sure what the answer is.
Absolutely - I alluded to the fact that people will find ways to circumvent it, however even if we can hold 5-10 seconds of attention to articles - there is an off chance that people will get engaged and before you know they may actually read the article!
There are no fool proof ideas for anything - we keep trying out to emerge as fools or geniuses depending on the result!
nicely put :)
A lot of that is bot driven. There are external sites that you can input usernames and whenever they post, it automatically upvotes them.
Such is life.
yes, my point is to 'shout out' my pain point so it can be addressed in the next forking!
Please consider resteeming so it can reach higher and up!